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RUI Alvarez and Patron - suspicious? [noted]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:31 pm
by hideaway
I need to underscore that I'm completely unsure if this is actually collusion or within the guidelines, so I'd like another opinion.

I'm in a game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1526276 with both right now, World 2.1, and although at one time I was by far the strongest player, the balance has shifted somewhat - and somewhat suspiciously.

RUI and Patron spoke Spanish to one another at the start of the game, then after a series of minor opening attacks, RUI sort of ridiculously feigned anger at Patron, saying he "never wanted to play him again" and then threatened to suicide just to start another game.

Well, RUI was so "angry" at Patron he proceeded to NEVER attack him all game, in fact, in a turn in which I held almost all of africa and Patron held ALL of NA and SA and had already broken my african bonus, RUI drops everything in british claim and breaks another one of my south african bonuses with MORE armies protecting instead of going after Patron's relatively unprotected 30+ bonuses, which has obviously crippled me and will probably ultimately decide the game in Patron's favor.

I must stress that this is all circumstantial, and although it's suspicious nothing is obviously conclusive. I do not think this is a multi, I think they are friends and maybe have an unspoken or loose arrangement to help each other out.

So I decided to look at a little history.

Patron just joined - he has played a total of thirteen games. 3 of them are with RUI Alvarez - and in the previous two, one or the other has won. Coincidence? Maybe.

They are both spanish speaking guys with a country listing of the Netherlands. Again - coincidence? Maybe. Pretty specific coincidence, though.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:30 pm
by Snorri1234
Probably just friends.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:03 am
by hideaway
second turn in a row - Patron has all of NA and SA, spilling well over into africa, I have a now totally broken unfortified African holding and fading fast, fourth player has nothing to speak of - and RUI does not attack the strongest player, instead working on the two weaker opponents for his teammate. This is painfully obvious at this point.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:54 am
by lofty
must admit, not alot of attacking going on between the players in question.. but still, I'm not sure they are multis, perhaps alliance

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:41 am
by Snorri1234
Yeah, I get the feeling they're in a secret alliance.

I think this is cheating. They're friends who are pretty obviously first wiping the rest out before attacking each other. And without announcing it first.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:56 am
by king achilles
For clarification, they are not multis with each other. This report is noted. If you feel that they had some sort of secret collusion with one another, feel free to leave a feedback about it supported with facts from the game.