Conquer Club

These are suspected Secret Alliance

Suspect users: hiitsmestevie1 & soka

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1367874

Comments: Check every other game these 2 are in.... just to many to list, in our game til i brought up them never attacking each other soka only hit stevie once, and stevie never touched soka, soka had multiple chances to break stevies bonus plus the minute i broke from Europe to Aust, soka attaked me. Soka left stevie untouched in South America instead of claiming the bonus until it was mentioned as well.


Crzyblue

how could i attack anyone but YOU .. you attacked my aust EVERY single turn.. weakening us BOTH, the 2 of them fought for SA .. i always attack him.!!! IF hes in my way,, or if i can benifit. im not gonna waste ly men to attack in someone elses war,, i had my own with you.. like i need his help?? please,,no offence ,, but he sucks!!

i can understand it can look liek he cheats sometimes. but he has been accused of not attacking atLEAST 5 other people too.so what? does he make an illance with someone in every game? i doubt that.!! he just plays wierd.. sorry soka ,i dont mean to put down your playing

hiitsmestevie1 & soka are blocked for suspicions of having a secret alliance.

these are suspected Multis/possible Secret alliance

Users: Soka and Hiitsmestevie1

Game numbers: countless, games 1213506,1589274, 1309016, 1565359 for example.

Comments: played each other in over 30 one on one games and hiitsmestevie1 always wins. Games 1589274 and 1565359 are particularly ridiculous, soka spends the whole game attacking neutral territories. the game i played with them (1213506) was a farce, hiitsmestevie didn't even defend her borders because she knew soka wouldn't attack her, in the game chat they admitted to knowing each other. soka's feedback suggests i'm not the only one who is sceptical about this and game 1309016 is another game where soka gifted the game to hiitsmestevie1.

Thanks in advance Karl the Master.

PS: sorry for not reporting this sooner, i realise alot of the games i have mentioned finished long ago.

Edit:sorry i just realised now that there is already a thread on these two

as you said ,this was already mentioned ,and dealt with. nice trying to bring it up again. soka and i have also played many games with others and neither of us won! if we were multis CC would have caught that long ago.. but considering our i.p. addys are over 2000 miles apart,id like to meet the person with long enough arms to multi that!

just as we assumed,someone (like you) would read feedback ,and jump to conclusions.... now you come up with games from " finished long ago" i think that was your words.

i have to wonder ,if your buddies got busted multis last night ,and this is your attempt at retaliation. ohhh and FYI i didn't report them!

whatever stevie, i'll just ask users to take a look at game 1565359 and ask themselvees if it looks suspicious. Seriously if you're going to cheat dont make it so obvious.

7:08:13 ‹hiitsmestevie1› hey navil ..howsyour "buddy master"
20/01/2008 17:08:31 ‹Navilluso›
20/01/2008 17:08:49 ‹hiitsmestevie1› i dont knwo the full name
20/01/2008 17:09:00 ‹hiitsmestevie1› something the master
20/01/2008 17:09:07 ‹Navilluso›
20/01/2008 17:09:58 ‹hiitsmestevie1› hmm you should know who im talking about.. 12 games you lost every single one to him..ironically
20/01/2008 17:10:22 ‹Navilluso› he's my older brother, he's teaching me the game
20/01/2008 17:10:36 ‹hiitsmestevie1› yeah .. but you didnt know who he was a min ago?


so odd for you to try to point out some crap liek this ... when you yourself have won 12 con.games against"your brother"

karl do you and your brother share the same computer???

Guys I know both stevie and soka and they are definitely two different people. When soka first came here, he was a total noob and let's face it, sucked pretty bad. And while he's gotten somewhat better, I just played him last night and, no offense soka, kicked his ass pretty soundly while he attacked neutrals, and I'm no hotshot player myself. There are many times on here where bad play decisions make someone look like a multi or secret alliance. I've personally seen this countless times. Then when one person writes a feedback to that effect, it just snowballs.

So I will clear them now of being multis, and go look very closely at their recent games to make sure there's no secret alliance. If it seems there's an alliance, and not just bad play, they'll be blocked from playing each other.

apparently they were blocked by king achilles from playing with each other once b4 has this block been removed or is there a time limit on blocks

wicked wrote:Guys I know both stevie and soka and they are definitely two different people. When soka first came here, he was a total noob and let's face it, sucked pretty bad. And while he's gotten somewhat better, I just played him last night and, no offense soka, kicked his ass pretty soundly while he attacked neutrals, and I'm no hotshot player myself. There are many times on here where bad play decisions make someone look like a multi or secret alliance. I've personally seen this countless times. Then when one person writes a feedback to that effect, it just snowballs.

So I will clear them now of being multis, and go look very closely at their recent games to make sure there's no secret alliance. If it seems there's an alliance, and not just bad play, they'll be blocked from playing each other.

wiki, that game is a very poor example. soka didn't attack you because she didn't even get the chance to do it. on that map you are supposed to attack neutrals until you see the enemy. you saw her first and killed her

Yes it's not the best example, but he was going nowhere towards attacking me, instead trying to grab bonuses. For the 20 or so games I've looked at so far, soka seems hell bent on grabbing continents, and thusly attacks neutrals much more than the average player, which as most of us have figured out already, is a horrible strategy for 1v1 game. This is in games with all players, not just soka. That said, I'm still looking; soka plays alot of games.

dezzy26 wrote:karl do you and your brother share the same computer???

yeah some of the time we do although i mostly use my laptop. My understanding of the rules is that you are allowed share a computer, but if its a problem we can stop playing games with each other.

there is no problem in sharing the same computer it was just in one of your games you were talking to each other asking for a real time game it seems a bit wierd (and sad like texting yer mates in the same room) if you were sat near each other lol

yeah they were asking for an rt against each other so it wouldnt look like they knew each other makes sence

it makes sense if they hadnt already stated they were brothers prior to this it deffo needs looking into

guys please carry the convo about those two into the thread already created. thanks.

Ok I've looked at many of Soka's recent games, talked with him and Stevie at length, and also played another 1v1 game with Soka. My conclusion is Soka often makes poor game decisions (sorry Soka!). He'll often attack neutral instead of going after the other player, and not just in games with Stevie. For example, in my game with him, 1635008, he could've taken me out or broken my bonuses several times, but chose instead to go after continents. I asked him what his 1v1 strategy is and he says he has none, or he tries to do opposite of what the other player does. I can see this firsthand in his gameplay. As such, I don't see that he changes his play style when playing Stevie. A small handful of games he did play differently, and Stevie informed me those were the games where she coached him (which is legal, they weren't opponents in those games).

So I've recommended they avoid playing 1v1 games to avoid the appearances of cheating, although I'm pretty sure there's no cheating going on here. However, I see others down the road accusing Soka of more secret alliances if he doesn't change his gameplay.

i just played with them 2 it seemed verymuch like they are multis soka and stevie had 1-1 bordors on sokas turn soka leaves stevie alone and attacks me! they are secret alliance in my opinion.

Ryan32 wrote:i just played with them 2 it seemed verymuch like they are multis soka and stevie had 1-1 bordors on sokas turn soka leaves stevie alone and attacks me! they are secret alliance in my opinion.

1731678 the game speaks for itself! he was upset,cause he didn't go first.. then upset someone attacked him(isn't that the idea f the game?) then that his dice sucked,and premiums get better dice..(i wish) then he asks to "team up" and then still loses,while swearing the whole time..he was looking for a "reason for losing"

and then saw the other feedback where we were cleared
so he ran with that..lo, but the funny part is if anything him and i had an alliance that he requested ...game log and game chat show it all..

You 2 talk on aol or something tell eachother what to say then soka will throw the game u 2 play a good act but people know that u 2 cheat.

Ryan32 wrote:You 2 talk on aol or something tell eachother what to say then soka will throw the game u 2 play a good act but people know that u 2 cheat.

no need.. your just upset (as you always are,whenever you lose) and as i said the game says it all... ryan YOU asked for an alliance,after you threatened to suicide the game, and STLL lost.. blame what you want.. but i have just heard from 4 other people in chat that you are a very poor loser ,and you have been warned. really calling people c#nts and b!tches is a common thing for you . had i known i would never have made the game when you asked for it.

soka throws u so many games umust talk on aol or something then plan what to do and say

Ryan32 wrote:soka throws u so many games umust talk on aol or something then plan what to do and say

They don't throw games, your just an idiot.