Conquer Club

Andrito.

Accused of:
Suiciding.

Comments:
Game 21419816. 30 rounds, 1 minute, BR game nuclear. 3 hours real-time. Last round rolls around, I am clearly up in troops. Every player with a decent chance had it been freestyle has called the game over, but my dear Andrito rolls around, with his last 12 troops, to hit me until someone else wins.

The only comment:

2022-01-04 20:46:39 - Andrito: just hate quakers playing cc

Does this ever stop? Nothing will come of this, but I want to post anyway because I'm frustrated as heck.

That's about as clear as it gets. Ban him from BRs

so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

Either trolling or not getting it. Attacking with the aim to win the game is one thing, or playing with a differing strategy... Attacking to make a different player win and put you at no advantage or shot of winning is throwing and game manipulation.

2022-01-04 15:36:46 - chanakam2020: 3 more rounds
2022-01-04 15:38:25 - Chewie1: gg extreme well played
2022-01-04 15:39:00 - chanakam2020: gg Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:41:12 - the warrior65: gg Extreme
2022-01-04 15:41:57 - DBandit70: Extreme loves getting suicided into if anyone wanted to
2022-01-04 15:42:23 - Extreme Ways: no I dont
2022-01-04 15:42:25 - murphy16: Watch my last round move
2022-01-04 15:43:39 - Extreme Ways: you joke but there's actually some risk involved and some people love to ruin someone else's game without any gain
2022-01-04 15:43:45 - Extreme Ways: especially when theres prior beef
2022-01-04 15:43:58 - murphy16: Will be spectacular
2022-01-04 15:44:40 - DBandit70: gg Extreme well played
2022-01-04 15:45:15 - murphy16: Nuked myself
2022-01-04 15:45:22 - DBandit70:


what Andrito did is wrong but game log EW last comment to DB smile

2022-01-04 15:43:41 - DBandit70 received 3 troops for 1 regions
2022-01-04 15:43:47 - DBandit70 deployed 3 troops on Orange-E
2022-01-04 15:43:49 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-B from Orange-E and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:50 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-D from Orange-B and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:51 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-X from Orange-D and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:52 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-W from Center-X and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:54 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-S from Center-W and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:55 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-L from Center-S and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:57 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-M from Center-L and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:59 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-G from Center-L and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:00 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-K from Center-G and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:01 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-J from Center-K and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:02 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-D from Center-J and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:03 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-E from Center-D and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:04 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-F from Center-D and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:05 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-C from Red-F and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:06 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-A from Red-C and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:07 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-B from Red-A and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:09 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-E from Red-B and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:10 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-D from Red-E and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:11 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-P from Red-D and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:12 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-F from Center-P and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:14 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-C from Orange-F and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:15 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-A from Orange-C and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:18 - DBandit70 reinforced Center-M with 13 troops from Orange-C
2022-01-04 15:44:18 - DBandit70 ended the turn and got spoils
2022-01-04 15:44:28 - murphy16 received 3 troops for 3 regions
2022-01-04 15:44:38 - murphy16 played a set of Yellow-A, Blue-E, and Orange-B nuking each region
2022-01-04 15:44:46 - murphy16 deployed 3 troops on Yellow-B
2022-01-04 15:44:55 - murphy16 ended the turn
2022-01-04 15:45:21 - Andrito received 3 troops for 2 regions

losing a bonus and 6 armies by the 3rd last player was the action that led to the reaction.
I can only speculate that he was around 3rd place when he finished round 19 but I would say he was probably proud of his accomplishment until round 20 .
You said yourself there was some but we only saw one

2022-01-04 15:45:21 - Andrito received 3 troops for 2 regions
2022-01-04 15:45:28 - Andrito played a set of Center-E, Red-C, and Blue-D nuking each region
2022-01-04 15:45:31 - Andrito deployed 3 troops on Green-B
2022-01-04 15:45:33 - Andrito assaulted Green-A from Green-B and conquered it from Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:45:36 - Andrito assaulted Green-C from Green-A and conquered it from Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:45:44 - Andrito assaulted Green-E from Green-D and conquered it from Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:45:55 - Andrito ran out of time
2022-01-04 15:45:55 - Round limit reached, the warrior65 has the most troops
2022-01-04 15:45:55 - the warrior65 won the game

He was obviously just proving you right.
After all his game just got ruined for no gain but chat was ok with that

Swimmerdude99 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

Either trolling or not getting it. Attacking with the aim to win the game is one thing, or playing with a differing strategy... Attacking to make a different player win and put you at no advantage or shot of winning is throwing and game manipulation.

So what was Dbandit doing then?

jfm10 wrote:2022-01-04 15:36:46 - chanakam2020: 3 more rounds
2022-01-04 15:38:25 - Chewie1: gg extreme well played
2022-01-04 15:39:00 - chanakam2020: gg Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:41:12 - the warrior65: gg Extreme
2022-01-04 15:41:57 - DBandit70: Extreme loves getting suicided into if anyone wanted to
2022-01-04 15:42:23 - Extreme Ways: no I dont
2022-01-04 15:42:25 - murphy16: Watch my last round move
2022-01-04 15:43:39 - Extreme Ways: you joke but there's actually some risk involved and some people love to ruin someone else's game without any gain
2022-01-04 15:43:45 - Extreme Ways: especially when theres prior beef
2022-01-04 15:43:58 - murphy16: Will be spectacular
2022-01-04 15:44:40 - DBandit70: gg Extreme well played
2022-01-04 15:45:15 - murphy16: Nuked myself
2022-01-04 15:45:22 - DBandit70:


what Andrito did is wrong but game log EW last comment to DB smile

2022-01-04 15:43:41 - DBandit70 received 3 troops for 1 regions
2022-01-04 15:43:47 - DBandit70 deployed 3 troops on Orange-E
2022-01-04 15:43:49 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-B from Orange-E and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:50 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-D from Orange-B and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:51 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-X from Orange-D and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:52 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-W from Center-X and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:54 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-S from Center-W and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:55 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-L from Center-S and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:57 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-M from Center-L and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:43:59 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-G from Center-L and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:00 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-K from Center-G and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:01 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-J from Center-K and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:02 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-D from Center-J and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:03 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-E from Center-D and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:04 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-F from Center-D and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:05 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-C from Red-F and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:06 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-A from Red-C and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:07 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-B from Red-A and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:09 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-E from Red-B and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:10 - DBandit70 assaulted Red-D from Red-E and conquered it from Andrito
2022-01-04 15:44:11 - DBandit70 assaulted Center-P from Red-D and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:12 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-F from Center-P and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:14 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-C from Orange-F and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:15 - DBandit70 assaulted Orange-A from Orange-C and conquered it from neutral player
2022-01-04 15:44:18 - DBandit70 reinforced Center-M with 13 troops from Orange-C
2022-01-04 15:44:18 - DBandit70 ended the turn and got spoils
2022-01-04 15:44:28 - murphy16 received 3 troops for 3 regions
2022-01-04 15:44:38 - murphy16 played a set of Yellow-A, Blue-E, and Orange-B nuking each region
2022-01-04 15:44:46 - murphy16 deployed 3 troops on Yellow-B
2022-01-04 15:44:55 - murphy16 ended the turn
2022-01-04 15:45:21 - Andrito received 3 troops for 2 regions

losing a bonus and 6 armies by the 3rd last player was the action that led to the reaction.
I can only speculate that he was around 3rd place when he finished round 19 but I would say he was probably proud of his accomplishment until round 20 .
You said yourself there was some but we only saw one

2022-01-04 15:45:21 - Andrito received 3 troops for 2 regions
2022-01-04 15:45:28 - Andrito played a set of Center-E, Red-C, and Blue-D nuking each region
2022-01-04 15:45:31 - Andrito deployed 3 troops on Green-B
2022-01-04 15:45:33 - Andrito assaulted Green-A from Green-B and conquered it from Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:45:36 - Andrito assaulted Green-C from Green-A and conquered it from Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:45:44 - Andrito assaulted Green-E from Green-D and conquered it from Extreme Ways
2022-01-04 15:45:55 - Andrito ran out of time
2022-01-04 15:45:55 - Round limit reached, the warrior65 has the most troops
2022-01-04 15:45:55 - the warrior65 won the game

He was obviously just proving you right.
After all his game just got ruined for no gain but chat was ok with that

DB was trying to prevent this from happening as he had hinted before that he preferred another winner ("not going to nuke your bonus to help you catch up to the leaders'). DB didnt notice the small stacks near my stack due to small colour differences.

Chat was okay with ruining his game, because he was not even close to troop leader. This is shown in snaps you dont have, but it should be clear from the fact that DB had 33 left after his run. DB was, in fact, second in troops for the majority of the game. He started his run with 98 troops and was +3 up on chanakam the whole game. Yes he broke the bonus, but the dude I'm accusing was either 7th in troopcount out of 8. From my snap in round 29, he seems to have been on 80 troops. (vs my 112, warrior's 98, DB's 98, chanakam's 95, if I recall correctly).

I linked the accused this thread yesterday so he can defend himself if he wishes, but I dont think DB hitting him was what lead to it. His annoyance of people stacking in cards provide a clear motive imo.

i-andrei wrote:

Swimmerdude99 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

Either trolling or not getting it. Attacking with the aim to win the game is one thing, or playing with a differing strategy... Attacking to make a different player win and put you at no advantage or shot of winning is throwing and game manipulation.

So what was Dbandit doing then?

DB didnt let a different player win. In fact, DB threw away his miniscule winning chances by making that run. The only non-suiciding play that you often see in freestyle is to coordinate with the remaining players to hit the game leader. If DB wanted to win (or cause someone else to win in a justified manner), he couldve negotiated with chana and warrior to all roll against me 2 or 3 times.

See also my post above.

Extreme Ways wrote:

i-andrei wrote:

Swimmerdude99 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

Either trolling or not getting it. Attacking with the aim to win the game is one thing, or playing with a differing strategy... Attacking to make a different player win and put you at no advantage or shot of winning is throwing and game manipulation.

So what was Dbandit doing then?

DB didnt let a different player win. In fact, DB threw away his miniscule winning chances by making that run. The only non-suiciding play that you often see in freestyle is to coordinate with the remaining players to hit the game leader. If DB wanted to win (or cause someone else to win in a justified manner), he couldve negotiated with chana and warrior to all roll against me 2 or 3 times.

See also my post above.

Tbh, you should have reported both of them, not just the one that hit you and made you lose the game.
If you can justify Dbandit doing that before the final round, why can't you do it for someone doing it in the 20th round? Just cause he made that comment?

i-andrei wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:

i-andrei wrote:

Swimmerdude99 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

Either trolling or not getting it. Attacking with the aim to win the game is one thing, or playing with a differing strategy... Attacking to make a different player win and put you at no advantage or shot of winning is throwing and game manipulation.

So what was Dbandit doing then?

DB didnt let a different player win. In fact, DB threw away his miniscule winning chances by making that run. The only non-suiciding play that you often see in freestyle is to coordinate with the remaining players to hit the game leader. If DB wanted to win (or cause someone else to win in a justified manner), he couldve negotiated with chana and warrior to all roll against me 2 or 3 times.

See also my post above.

Tbh, you should have reported both of them, not just the one that hit you and made you lose the game.
If you can justify Dbandit doing that before the final round, why can't you do it for someone doing it in the 20th round? Just cause he made that comment?

They both did it in the final round? If not, I understand where you're coming from. Now you just leave me confused.

One is affecting the game outcome, one is not. You can report DB if you want, I dont think there's a case there.

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

No he said
2022-01-04 20:46:39 - Andrito: just hate quakers playing cc

Quakers are people who belong to a historically Protestant Christian set of denominations known formally as the Religious Society of Friends. ... They include those with evangelical, holiness, liberal, and traditional Quaker understandings of Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers

It seems some other issue than game play I guess

Unfortunately, this seems to be typical behaviour in battle royal games. Not sure what his intention was here as he doesn't seem like a regular player in this event, but the reason I didn't play any this year is because last year's event left a bad taste in my mouth. This type of thing happened in a handful of games. In many of the other games the attacking just happened earlier by people that had no chance of winning.

If you ask me, and I have no proof, there is a lot of collusion going on between some members in this event.

chanakam2020 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:so because he doesnt like players who stack and wait, he stopped 1 player using this tactic from winning, and let someone else who did the same thing win anyway. smart.

No he said
2022-01-04 20:46:39 - Andrito: just hate quakers playing cc

Quakers are people who belong to a historically Protestant Christian set of denominations known formally as the Religious Society of Friends. ... They include those with evangelical, holiness, liberal, and traditional Quaker understandings of Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers

It seems some other issue than game play I guess

Another nuanced part of this comment would be that quakers wer pacifists. So they would "not attack" and he had an issue with that, I'm guessing.

i-andrei wrote:Tbh, you should have reported both of them, not just the one that hit you and made you lose the game.
If you can justify Dbandit doing that before the final round, why can't you do it for someone doing it in the 20th round? Just cause he made that comment?

I think the thing you miss here is the effect of an attack. A play that intends to throw the game is no good, another player moving to try and decrease someone changing the outcome of the game (if that is what dbandit did? I can't really tell, but that's what context is telling me). If you have played in many of these, there are a couple player known to this kind of behavior, so its sometimes courteous to block that person from affecting the game outcome.

I know I've done it before when three players were close, I wasn't and neither was the known suicider. I stepped somewhere to force them to try and go through me first instead of letting them just noob a random player for no reason. In the end it allowed the three active players to fight for the win, rather than play roullette.

but round limits were a great idea )))

I will have to note this report in his record for future reference. Feel free to put him in your Foe list and rate him accordingly.