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riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:06 pm
by iAmCaffeine
Accused:
riskllama

The accused are suspected of:
Farming New Recruits

Game number(s):

These are all from 1 single page of results. I didn't even go into the next page.

Game 19792312
Game 19791854
Game 19791851
Game 19791693
Game 19791552
Game 19789680
Game 19789207
Game 19788847
Game 19788788
Game 19788774
Game 19788773
Game 19788771
Game 19788759
Game 19788552
Game 19785754
Game 19785273
Game 19784919
Game 19783506
Game 19783453
Game 19782199
Game 19781758
Game 19781716
Game 19781712
Game 19781176
Game 19781128
Game 19780763
Game 19780733
Game 19780585
Game 19777790
Game 19775327
Game 19774367
Game 19774357
Game 19773355
Game 19773287
Game 19773236
Game 19773216
Game 19771763
Game 19770551
Game 19756801
Game 19756637
Game 19749488
Game 19743080
Game 19742285
Game 19742281
Game 19742250
Game 19739607

Comments:
This is blatant and he's already a guest for something forum/chat related I assume. Can we get rid of this vermin already? Prob had more bans than I have. CC is having a huge increase in members right now and then we have people like this who just deter them from wanting to play again. Give them some free points and an incentive to stick around.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:29 pm
by Barney Rubble
Interesting to note that every game thats been completed has ended in 3 rounds with the “supposed newbie” deadbeating ! I mean really ? Homey dont think so ! ...Neither does Rubble
Seems to me there’s more than farming going on here
BR

Re: riskllama farming new recruits

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:57 pm
by D3A7H
This again?
c'mon

Re: riskllama farming new recruits

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:58 am
by Keefie
I'm very disappointed. Looks like a case for a points / rank adjustment

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:21 am
by Evil Semp
Checking this out.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:43 pm
by zeus111
as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:36 pm
by Barney Rubble
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???

First 28 games on the list he "Joined" but everyone of those new players dead beated after 3 rounds ....What do you think the odds of that are ? Also newbies tend to start games with Classic because its whats drawn them here ...not one classic game in here even a feudal or two in there among all the other maps ...See where Im going with this ? Im agreeing it isnt farming ...Its something else ....
BR
anyhow Im sure his Evilness with suss it out

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:00 pm
by zeus111
Barney Rubble wrote:
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???

First 28 games on the list he "Joined" but everyone of those new players dead beated after 3 rounds ....What do you think the odds of that are ? Also newbies tend to start games with Classic because its whats drawn them here ...not one classic game in here even a feudal or two in there among all the other maps ...See where Im going with this ? Im agreeing it isnt farming ...Its something else ....
BR
anyhow Im sure his Evilness with suss it out


its odd for sure an obvious point and medal grab with most all games different maps it has a bwana feel to it for sure but as charged for farming not so sure anything will come here . most mods here dont look past the initial accusation

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:39 pm
by shoop76
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???


Yes, but he is still farming who he plays. He knows the likelihood of players deadbeating is very high. Even if he loses a couple the odds are greatly in his favor to gain a lot of points. This is obviously against the rules.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:13 pm
by Extreme Ways
I was heading into this topic with the thought that llama was trying to serve NRs some games, in order to maybe improve our chances of NR retention. It doesn't look like llama is trying to do so given the games joined, but I still hope this is taken into consideration.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:42 pm
by iAmCaffeine
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???

shut up

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:16 pm
by Swimmerdude99
Lol, that's one way to get a new high score... let me know the ruling on this, been wanting a star...

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:11 pm
by betiko
Honestly, why give a shit?
As long as he hasn't created accounts to face that would db.... he's just being a point predator and aiming for opponents that might not keep playing for whatever reason. There are point predators of all kind on this site, and everybody plays by their own unwritten rules... people just think that their own moral standards have to be the norm.
The fact is that everybody plays very different type of games with very different risk/rewards... and that our standardised point system is just there to look pretty. When are people going to start understanding it and that you shouldn't give a f*ck about the games other people play unless they try to brag about their super score or think their score makes them great players?
This is 2020.... after all those years on this site one should know better

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:50 pm
by zeus111
iAmCaffeine wrote:
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???

shut up

lol ok that made me lol

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:57 am
by Swimmerdude99
betiko wrote:Honestly, why give a shit?
As long as he hasn't created accounts to face that would db.... he's just being a point predator and aiming for opponents that might not keep playing for whatever reason. There are point predators of all kind on this site, and everybody plays by their own unwritten rules... people just think that their own moral standards have to be the norm.
The fact is that everybody plays very different type of games with very different risk/rewards... and that our standardised point system is just there to look pretty. When are people going to start understanding it and that you shouldn't give a f*ck about the games other people play unless they try to brag about their super score or think their score makes them great players?
This is 2020.... after all those years on this site one should know better


But... but... my ego.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:45 am
by mrswdk
betiko wrote:Honestly, why give a shit?
As long as he hasn't created accounts to face that would db.... he's just being a point predator and aiming for opponents that might not keep playing for whatever reason. There are point predators of all kind on this site, and everybody plays by their own unwritten rules... people just think that their own moral standards have to be the norm.
The fact is that everybody plays very different type of games with very different risk/rewards... and that our standardised point system is just there to look pretty. When are people going to start understanding it and that you shouldn't give a f*ck about the games other people play unless they try to brag about their super score or think their score makes them great players?
This is 2020.... after all those years on this site one should know better


Sounds like we have ourselves a candidate for the next farming thread.

Photo of betiko helping riskllama take turns on his iPad:

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Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:36 am
by BabySasuke
Photo of betiko helping riskllama take turns on his iPad:

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this made me laugh out loud

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:31 pm
by zeus111
shoop76 wrote:
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???


Yes, but he is still farming who he plays. He knows the likelihood of players deadbeating is very high. Even if he loses a couple the odds are greatly in his favor to gain a lot of points. This is obviously against the rules.



ok im confused . i thought farming was example... llama sets a game on say promontory summit sends invite to say new recruit is this not farming players . how is joining games farming . i dont like llama for personal reasons but all he did was join games here sorry i dis agree he did any thing wrong here as it sits,how is joining games against our rules ??

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:32 pm
by shoop76
zeus111 wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???


Yes, but he is still farming who he plays. He knows the likelihood of players deadbeating is very high. Even if he loses a couple the odds are greatly in his favor to gain a lot of points. This is obviously against the rules.



ok im confused . i thought farming was example... llama sets a game on say promontory summit sends invite to say new recruit is this not farming players . how is joining games farming . i dont like llama for personal reasons but all he did was join games here sorry i dis agree he did any thing wrong here as it sits,how is joining games against our rules ??


Its joining games, knowing that a large majority will deadbeat. I don´t know if it is farming or even has a name. It would be similar to someone starting a bunch of games knowing they will deadbeat. If the person joins a bunch of these, knowing their opponent will deadbeat, they too are at fault. I know this has happened in the past.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 pm
by zeus111
shoop76 wrote:
zeus111 wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???


Yes, but he is still farming who he plays. He knows the likelihood of players deadbeating is very high. Even if he loses a couple the odds are greatly in his favor to gain a lot of points. This is obviously against the rules.



ok im confused . i thought farming was example... llama sets a game on say promontory summit sends invite to say new recruit is this not farming players . how is joining games farming . i dont like llama for personal reasons but all he did was join games here sorry i dis agree he did any thing wrong here as it sits,how is joining games against our rules ??


Its joining games, knowing that a large majority will deadbeat. I don´t know if it is farming or even has a name. It would be similar to someone starting a bunch of games knowing they will deadbeat. If the person joins a bunch of these, knowing their opponent will deadbeat, they too are at fault. I know this has happened in the past.



ok so its not a written rule and have a hard time understanding how we can stop members from joining a new recruits game . seems this is a loophole in my opinion but as charged for farming i still say hes done nothing like that. i think caff has stumbled on this one. if we now cant join as many games as we wish with who ever we wish i find less and less reasons to buy premium. to fix this issue make all new recruits first few games zero point gain but they can gain our points if they win , problem solved

its an obvious point grab but i feel its with in our current guidelines to join as many we wish we all know odds are the new recruit dbs and to gain points this way is what it is if we close the loophole is only way to prevent it i can see

zeus111

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:21 pm
by shoop76
zeus111 wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
zeus111 wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
zeus111 wrote:as the accused is on a time out from posting in fourms he can not speak to this,

in his defense is farming not inviting the new recruit to a game. most of the above is him joining games. as much as i dont see eye to eye with llama since when is joining a game a violation and how is this farming ???


Yes, but he is still farming who he plays. He knows the likelihood of players deadbeating is very high. Even if he loses a couple the odds are greatly in his favor to gain a lot of points. This is obviously against the rules.



ok im confused . i thought farming was example... llama sets a game on say promontory summit sends invite to say new recruit is this not farming players . how is joining games farming . i dont like llama for personal reasons but all he did was join games here sorry i dis agree he did any thing wrong here as it sits,how is joining games against our rules ??


Its joining games, knowing that a large majority will deadbeat. I don´t know if it is farming or even has a name. It would be similar to someone starting a bunch of games knowing they will deadbeat. If the person joins a bunch of these, knowing their opponent will deadbeat, they too are at fault. I know this has happened in the past.



ok so its not a written rule and have a hard time understanding how we can stop members from joining a new recruits game . seems this is a loophole in my opinion but as charged for farming i still say hes done nothing like that. i think caff has stumbled on this one. if we now cant join as many games as we wish with who ever we wish i find less and less reasons to buy premium. to fix this issue make all new recruits first few games zero point gain but they can gain our points if they win , problem solved

its an obvious point grab but i feel its with in our current guidelines to join as many we wish we all know odds are the new recruit dbs and to gain points this way is what it is if we close the loophole is only way to prevent it i can see

zeus111


Sometimes you just have to use some common sense. If it doesn't seem right, its probably not.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:34 pm
by gerin_oil
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=232764&p=5142685&hilit=farming#p5142685
Looks like a carbon copy to me.
NR games have been blocked temporarily for the indomitable ranchllama.
Closed

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:39 pm
by zeus111
holy crap so it is a thing so man hidden rules

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:19 pm
by Evil Semp
riskllama has received a WARNING for farming.

Re: riskllama farming new recruits[ES]

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:24 pm
by iAmCaffeine
another soft result