sdh - Cheating in Game #17762204 [ka]

by **marcantonio** on Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:13 pm

Accused:

sdh
Shaun850
hmsps
spy

The accused are suspected of:

Other: Three players in a team for a triples game #17762204 are using player "spy" as a spy and sabotage to sink team 2 of me and Emcee (who has had previous experience with spy throwing the game in favor of sdh/Shaun850/hmsps dirty team.

Game number(s):

Game 17762204

Comments: Please contact Emcee for other games these cheaters messed up. Thanks.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:37 am

Some other examples of games with spy on the other team "against" Shaun850 and sdh. The usual profile is that spy doesn't do very many useful things in the first few rounds, and usually attacks the teammate a few times in the key early rounds, securing the win for the other team. These are no spoils games, so no real benefit from attacking the teammate, and it doesn't appear that they are doing it for something beneficial like holding a continent bonus. In some cases, spy simply deploys troops and ends the turn. But it's hard for me to be completely certain here. If spy is intentionally throwing the game, they are doing it in a relatively non-obvious way.

Game 17740198
Game 17740197
Game 17740196
Game 17698184
Game 17698183

spy also has a few Feudal poly games against hmsps where spy lost each game, but it's hard to tell from the log whether spy intentionally threw the game.

by **sdh** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:50 am

Wtf? Are you being serious? I don't know spy and I don't invite him to any games, he just joins and doesn't invite anyone. Should I foe him for joining my games and playing bad? spy has 112 active games, i'm guessing he just rushes through his turns.

using player "spy" as a spy and sabotage to sink team 2 of me and Emcee (who has had previous experience with spy throwing the game in favor of sdh/Shaun850/hmsps dirty team.

Please contact Emcee for other games these cheaters messed up

Please post??

by **mrswdk** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:12 am

A name like that certainly rings alarm bells.

Also, it can't be a coincidence that 'sdh' looks like someone took the word 'spy' and turned it upside down.

by **sdh** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:54 am

mrswdk wrote:A name like that certainly rings alarm bells.

Also, it can't be a coincidence that 'sdh' looks like someone took the word 'spy' and turned it upside down.

So you think I made an account in 2007 with the username spy. Then made an account in 2009 with a username spy turned upside down, then waited 8 years to sabotage team games? :-s

by **Razorvich** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:07 am

I don't know spy, so cannot comment there.. as for the the others.. I can say from years of personal experience, that they are upstanding and challenging opponants.

To claim that one of you "team mates" is working against you, heres a tip for you.... "Pick your teammates better", especially against a well seasoned team of players.

Pickup teams will always be a risk with communication and tactics.

Sorry, I see nothing here.. inb4 CLEARED

by **mrswdk** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:28 am

sdh wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A name like that certainly rings alarm bells.

Also, it can't be a coincidence that 'sdh' looks like someone took the word 'spy' and turned it upside down.

So you think I made an account in 2007 with the username spy. Then made an account in 2009 with a username spy turned upside down, then waited 8 years to sabotage team games?

Using a sleeper would be a lot smarter than creating both accounts at the same time and then immediately putting them in games together.

And you're smart, aren't you?

by **betiko** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:59 pm

mrswdk wrote:
sdh wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A name like that certainly rings alarm bells.

Also, it can't be a coincidence that 'sdh' looks like someone took the word 'spy' and turned it upside down.

So you think I made an account in 2007 with the username spy. Then made an account in 2009 with a username spy turned upside down, then waited 8 years to sabotage team games?

Using a sleeper would be a lot smarter than creating both accounts at the same time and then immediately putting them in games together.

And you're smart, aren't you?

He surely is smart enough not to call a spy account "spy" you know. Go away troll.

by **mrswdk** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:08 pm

Hiding in plain sight.

Like when someone is looking for the spy among a group of 100 soldiers, and one stands up and announces "I am the spy". They will immediately become the last person anyone suspects of being the spy.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:29 pm

You should all stop digging on spy, he's 8th in the most improved leaderboard.

by **king achilles** on Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:47 pm

It probably would have helped if he also had ratings stating something like he played somewhat 'suspiciously' against the same opposing team but so far there is none. It looks like he just joined some team games set up by sdh and has won 1 out of 7 games completed. At this point, him being a 'spy' or a game thrower looks more like a speculation.

He is also cleared of being a multi with sdh and company.