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DanielJames1962 and The World Police [tg]

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:21 pm
by madmom
Accused:

DanielJames1962
The World Police

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Too many to list... but here's a few where you can see that they attacked everyone but each other:
Game 17692468
Game 17386778

Comments:

Does anyone find it odd that out of the 191 games that The World Police has played, 179 has been with DanielJames1962? They are both listed as from Canada. DanielJames joined in January 2017 and The World Police in March. I see in their ratings and comments in the games that others have accused them of a secret diplomacy or being a multi.

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:03 pm
by HitRed
They all work/worked in the same Canadian software company. If pressed, they are very upfront about being friends and playing a lot a games together.

Game chat from #17692470 I played against World and Daniel.

2017-09-10 12:46:31 - DanielJames1962: World and i are RLF - as he said he is a student and worked for me at my software company
2017-09-10 12:46:51 - DanielJames1962: we play CC with several guys - and are very dedicated to the integrity of the game
2017-09-10 12:49:08 - DanielJames1962: we play with Makeriskgreatagain - The Sisco -- Nailsnailsnails - MagaArmy

To avoid suspicion I recommend they make TEAM GAMES.

HitRed

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:43 pm
by madmom
Thanks HitRed, but it doesn't look like they're that committed to the integrity of the game when they join games and don't attack each other. Friends have a tendency to do that... just saying. ;)

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:20 pm
by HitRed
Happy Osprey noticed it too.

2017-09-09 10:56:54 - Happy Osprey: Just an FYI - Everyone, check this out. If you do Game Finder and look up all active and finished games with both DanielJames1962 and The World Police you may find a significant trend.

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:41 pm
by DanielJames1962
we have no intention of cheating - we just like to play together. but if this causes issues we can stop. we both love the site -- and happen to both love fog and trench. -- however i have started to get into poly and tourney stuff - World has not really (think we are playing one poly game heads up) -- and he, as of sept. is back in Uni ft - so we dont see each other like we did in summer in the office. But again folks - we are not trying to cheat and not trying to cause problems - but we both see how being friends could cause issue. and we do truce when it makes sense in games ....but we truce with others as well. If you wish we can stop playing in these types of game going forward and just play heads up - or as suggest doubles games.

please accept my(our) apologies - we told Happy Osprey the same thing ...and we have played in many games with him as well -- same as Veronius ---- both win often - probably as much as either of us - so i really find it odd that people think we are that bad - if we are cheating.

let us know what you would like from us to make this right

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:19 pm
by TeeGee
Thanks for coming in with your explanation of events

Only 1 question at this stage.

when you make a truce with each other, is that verbally or in the game chat for everyone to see?

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police [tg]

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:03 am
by DanielJames1962
we realized our verbal truces were part of the bottle neck - and mostly as an oversight did not get the impact on the game to the others --- since we have made a strong effort to always put it ingame chat. but without doubt that was where we realize our error TeeGee - it was not malicious - just so easy for us to do on the fly --- again however we get that was part of what made this situation blow up. we never were trying to do it SECRETLY - it was just an honest oversight early stages when we started playing together often. As i am sure you guys have seen - i play 4x the number of games without WorldPolice then i do with. and we have been on the site togehter for roughly the same period - most of our office got on together about 10 months back. But only he and I stayed on and really enjoyed it. We do apologies for any issues this create. and just want direction on how to proceed - we wont play in the same games any more ...we dont like the drama either -- it really has impacted our play and our enjoyment.

Re: DanielJames1962 and The World Police [tg]

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:57 pm
by TeeGee
DanielJames1962 wrote:we realized our verbal truces were part of the bottle neck - and mostly as an oversight did not get the impact on the game to the others --- since we have made a strong effort to always put it ingame chat. but without doubt that was where we realize our error TeeGee - it was not malicious - just so easy for us to do on the fly --- again however we get that was part of what made this situation blow up. we never were trying to do it SECRETLY - it was just an honest oversight early stages when we started playing together often. As i am sure you guys have seen - i play 4x the number of games without WorldPolice then i do with. and we have been on the site togehter for roughly the same period - most of our office got on together about 10 months back. But only he and I stayed on and really enjoyed it. We do apologies for any issues this create. and just want direction on how to proceed - we wont play in the same games any more ...we dont like the drama either -- it really has impacted our play and our enjoyment.


Thank you for being honest and that does go a long way in helping me come to a decision here.

DanielJames1962 and The World Police are WARNED for engaging in secret diplomacy.

Conquer Club only has 2 rules and Rule number 2 is
Rule #2: No secret diplomacy

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must only be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. No other methods of communication may be used to hold diplomatic discussions between opponents including, but not limited to, the forum, the wall, Live Chat, or the inbox.


Your honesty has allowed me to give some leniency here. You are still able to play in games with and against each other, but if any further diplomacy is found then we will block you playing together. Please make sure you clearly announce it in game chat.