Conquer Club

Accused:

jagwaaar
oxyperious



The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 17039505
Game 16957720
Game 16940762
Game 16932708
Game 16876291
Game 15866563
Game 12753623
Game 12640151
Game 12552830




Comments: In our current game, game number 17039505, I noticed through 5 rounds these two players were not strategically going after one another at all but were instead setting up bonuses separate from one another and attacked each other only twice to secure bonuses while attacking other players 9 times. It triggered my thoughts that there may be other games where these two "paired up". Upon my investigation of the last 9 games of about 34 these two have played together I see mass collusion where they do not attack each other except to secure bonuses and then only attack each other later in game after it is in hand by one of the other, or in some cases where they both fail and someone takes advantage and wins.

In the above game totals they attack each other only 17 times while attacking other players (all 4-player games) 92 times. All of the games are totaled through the first 4 rounds except the current game goes through 5. In order of games from 17039505 through 12552830 game by game is as follows:

1: Attacked others: 9
each other: 2

2: Attacked others: 9
each other: 3

3: Attacked others: 10
each other: 2

4: Attacked others: 14
each other: 2

5: Attacked others: 7
each other: 2

6: Attacked others: 11
each other: 3

7: Attacked others: 9
each other: 2

8: Attacked others: 14
each other: 0

9: Attacked others: 9
each other: 1

I didn't go back further than these games but I see these two playing as teammates in single-player games. This is serious as these two are inflating numbers by teaming up on unsuspecting victims of their cheating.

Don't know if this is the usual BS or not but there's a funny post on Oxyperious's wall:

Heraklis: I will attack only Catdaddy (game in Yugoslavia map)

Does oxy have previous? Oh noes! D:

mrswdk wrote:Don't know if this is the usual BS or not but there's a funny post on Oxyperious's wall:

Heraklis: I will attack only Catdaddy (game in Yugoslavia map)

Does oxy have previous? Oh noes! D:

here you go:

lol, that photobucket account is like the ultimate stalker's guide to CC. Do you not sometimes start to get so bored of it all, shoo shoo?

mrswdk wrote:lol, that photobucket account is like the ultimate stalker's guide to CC. Do you not sometimes start to get so bored of it all, shoo shoo?

Mr, you obviously don't know how C&A works. if you state there is something on his wall, you have to prove it. quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it. so, by stating there was evidence on his wall, you in essence opened up the floor for more evidence of your unfounded statement. as usual, you are too lazy to do anything on your own, other than pretend to be an asian woman, despite being an english man in his mid 50's. so, you are welcome that i took the screenshot and posted it for you. you obviously don't know how C&A works, because you are 0-3 in bogus claims against me (*COUGH*)... good luck with this and you are welcome for my taking the time to do your work for you, because you are too lazy.-Bj

p.s.-odd, you claim posting this was stalking, but you were the one that found it. even more odd, you derided this type of behaviour when it got you banned, but for you to do it is ok. hypocrite? anyone? anyone?

I did find it odd as well that the statement was on his wall and he did not report the player for secret diplomacy...was going to include that in my complaint but it slipped my mind...proves the player went along with secret diplomacy in other games as well... Thanks owen!

owenshooter wrote:quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it.

If you weren't capable of clicking the player link in my post and reading the wall by yourself then that's no one else's probably except your own.

mrswdk wrote:

owenshooter wrote:quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it.

If you weren't capable of clicking the player link in my post and reading the wall by yourself then that's no one else's probably except your own.

Oh yeah, deleting wall posts is impossible! Anyone? Anyone?

iAmCaffeine wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

owenshooter wrote:quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it.

If you weren't capable of clicking the player link in my post and reading the wall by yourself then that's no one else's probably except your own.

Oh yeah, deleting wall posts is impossible! Anyone? Anyone?

I think I heard of a way to delete wall posts.

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:lol, that photobucket account is like the ultimate stalker's guide to CC. Do you not sometimes start to get so bored of it all, shoo shoo?

Mr, you obviously don't know how C&A works. if you state there is something on his wall, you have to prove it. quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it. so, by stating there was evidence on his wall,

I am wondering, if we allow people to post screenshot of a game in the chat because it is so easy to photosphp an image, how is it C&A mod should consider a screenshot being an evidence of anything ??

iAmCaffeine wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

owenshooter wrote:quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it.

If you weren't capable of clicking the player link in my post and reading the wall by yourself then that's no one else's probably except your own.

Oh yeah, deleting wall posts is impossible! Anyone? Anyone?

Oh yeah, faking a screenshot is impossible! Anyone? Anyone?

c'mon mrs, owen has you in this one...

Donelladan wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:lol, that photobucket account is like the ultimate stalker's guide to CC. Do you not sometimes start to get so bored of it all, shoo shoo?

Mr, you obviously don't know how C&A works. if you state there is something on his wall, you have to prove it. quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it. so, by stating there was evidence on his wall,

I am wondering, if we allow people to post screenshot of a game in the chat because it is so easy to photosphp an image, how is it C&A mod should consider a screenshot being an evidence of anything ??

I know nothing much about phpbb software, but I do know that on a couple of forum softwares that I've used, if a user deletes posts on his/her wall, it is still visible to administrators or anyone granted that level of permission, except in collapsed form.

If it's not like this, admins can probably make it so with a bit of tweaking.

riskllama wrote:c'mon mrs, owen has you in this one...

If you like I can draw up a fake screenshot of you posting your love for me on my wall. Will probably take me about 2 minutes.

Donelladan wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:lol, that photobucket account is like the ultimate stalker's guide to CC. Do you not sometimes start to get so bored of it all, shoo shoo?

Mr, you obviously don't know how C&A works. if you state there is something on his wall, you have to prove it. quoting it does not prove it. you have to screenshot it. so, by stating there was evidence on his wall,

I am wondering, if we allow people to post screenshot of a game in the chat because it is so easy to photosphp an image, how is it C&A mod should consider a screenshot being an evidence of anything ??

you can't remove game chat. you can remove wall posts. however, like shannon stated, i believe the admins can view the deleted posts... the screen shot is just helpful.-Bj

I'm not an admin , so who cares what I say; buit instead of weighing in on the pissing contest ( which of course IS weighing in)
I'd like to praise HaireWolf1 for his OP which looks like something worth investigating ; good research mate, 1+

Thank you good sir for weighing in...hehe

Couldn't be arsed to change Serbia's profile pic. Not sure why I kept/added the '!', but I'm too lazy to screenshot again.

Why am I The Black Jesus? Not sure I understand any of what's going on.

I have contacted them to get some explanation and Jagwaaar did deny the accusation and I respect that. Still, I have advised them to play more honestly and fairly if they get in another non team game together. For now, this report is noted in case they get reported once again.
Heraklis has also been notified about the rules.