Conquer Club

Accused:
owenshooter

The accused are suspected of:
Other: offensive chat

Game number(s):
[game]n/a[/game]

Comments:
I am tired of hearing Owenshooter be blasphemous in chat, etc. on this site. When he was politely asked to stop:

In global Chat:
MSpitts24: mr owenshooter, please stop the Black Jesus comments. it's offensive mate

His response on my wall:
i've been the black jesus over a 1/2 decade before you even joined the site. if you are offended, put me into C&A. i was given the name by a site admin, long story. there is nothing offensive about it, unless you are racist and believe that jesus was white... the black jesus has spoken... and for your blasphemy, you shall have bad dice for 42 hours...-Jésus noir
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by owenshooter
on Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:24 pm

it doesn't make any difference that someone called him black jesus over 5 yrs ago.
it is not that I am a racist or believe that Jesus was white
It is that he's making fun of a religious name
If I made fun of Allah, Buddha, or any one of several others and someone found it truly offensive, I would expect to be asked to stop

Owenshooter suggested a C&A so I used C&A. Just asking him to be respectful of the God of a large number of people.

I'm sure the Black Jesus approves that you've taken this to the appropriate forum with a reasonably decent OP.
Good luck against this blasphemy

- JBlombier

Sorry, not even close to a chat offence here.

OMFG

perhaps he could smudge out his face on the avatar, ala allah - would that be a reasonable compromise?

If Jesus is black, shouldn't he just be called regular "Jesus", and all nonblack Jesus's the race of that Jesus? (i.e, White Jesus, Asian Jesus, etc)?

i for one am in shock that a member took a CHAT COMPLAINT to C&A. Considering the fact that the head chat mod was in the room at the time, you think he would have just asked Razo for a ruling. I have never spoken to the complaining member prior to tonight, i have never received any correspondence from the member, i have had zero interaction with this member. so, i for one am absolutely side swiped by his declaration of being repeatedly offended, when i have never heard him voice any concerns prior to this evening. i am confident that the head chat mods post within this thread, declaring my post nowhere near a violation, will suffice for this to be close. however, once again, this brings up punishment for those that file frivolous complaints within C&A and take up the mods time. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-i am still wondering why he finds "black jesus" offensive. as you go across the globe, you will find that jesus is rendered representative of those people...

calling yourself the black jesus is offensive because you are from Texas and only steers and queers come from Texas. To call the savior of the human race a homosexual is truly offensive, as Tech N9ne does and I quote: "Christ is a fucking fag, he likes to dress in drag but that can't conceal the fact that he's fucking his mother and at the last supper he confesses that". But of course, that's not offensive compared to a word that is totally stripped of meaning (which by my count was used 10 times in the song I just quoted).

DoomYoshi wrote:calling yourself the black jesus is offensive because you are from Texas and only steers and queers come from Texas.

incorrect, i live in texas. i am not from texas. as for the rest of your offensive diatribe, i will let it pass, as your avatar is so damn cute...-Jésus noir

Owen I suspect from the opening post is problem is with you using the name Jesus and making statements as if you were the son of God announcing his presence, but I agree some clarification would be in order.... presumeably he isn't upset with Hispanics and the smaller # of caucasians with the same name , and I doubt he's upset with AoG, Bogan God , or Godd...
The quote he posted references you styling yourself Jesus and offering salvation; I think that's what he's saying is sacrilegious.

Being an Ethical Humanist I don't take much personal offence but since I'm sympathetic to those who think the Wahington NFL team should change its name I wonder whether I should feel similarly about your "taking the Lord's name in vain" though personally, I don't....
and have always been please when you grant me nice dice.

this kind of PC ness will no doubt disappear with the trump presidency ....

then why have this general posting:

Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple. This applies to any part of the site where interaction takes place; in Forums, Private Messages, Live Chat and Game Chat

MSpitts24 wrote:then why have this general posting:

Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple. This applies to any part of the site where interaction takes place; in Forums, Private Messages, Live Chat and Game Chat

you have to come with something else. there is a thread that used that very rule in an attempt to strip me of my moniker and it failed. search is your friend... can't wait for your apology.-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:

MSpitts24 wrote:then why have this general posting:

Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple. This applies to any part of the site where interaction takes place; in Forums, Private Messages, Live Chat and Game Chat

you have to come with something else. there is a thread that used that very rule in an attempt to strip me of my moniker and it failed. search is your friend... can't wait for your apology.-Jésus noir

It is not about stripping you of your moniker, it is about having you stop blaspheming the God of a huge part of the world's population.

And then you send me that note via my inbox?:

Re: Owenshooter "Jesus"
Sent: Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:38 am
From: owenshooter
To: MSpitts24

you should have searched C&A, i already beat that rule... you are an absolute dolt...-Jésus noir

Subject: Owenshooter "Jesus"

MSpitts24 wrote:
then why have this general posting:

Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple. This applies to any part of the site where interaction takes place; in Forums, Private Messages, Live Chat and Game Chat
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Calling someone a dolt who politely asked you to quit blaspheming on Global Chat isn't in line with and sure seems to run afoul of " if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple. This applies to any part of the site where interaction takes place; in Forums, Private Messages, Live Chat and Game Chat"

Isn't this supposed to be a friendly place, where people aren't bothered or harassed?

MSpitts24 wrote:

now, i'm a bit confused... your complaint was about "offensive chat."

MSpitts24 wrote:Accused:
owenshooter

The accused are suspected of:
Other: offensive chat

and as you can see below this, the head chat mod already stated in the thread that my chat was not offensive:

Razorvich wrote:

Sorry, not even close to a chat offence here.

now, you seem to be making a much broader complaint involving your religious beliefs, etc... so, the complaint has evolved into something that was not your original complaint... seems like you are just hurling mud at the black jesus and hoping something sticks... and again, you should have searched C&A, there have been multiple rulings on these very matters... good luck with this frivolous complaint, the black jesus still loves you... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-i have never made any statements about your religion or anyone elses. i don't even know what religion you follow. however, if someone calling himself the black jesus shakes whatever faith it is that you have, you should truly look inward and wonder why that is...

p.s.-want me to change my avatar, too? is that offensive to you? you really need to look inward and figure out what your core beliefs, values, etc are, and wonder how a member on an online gaming site is shaking them down to the foundation... you have been here for 2 years, how is it now that you are just finding all of this offensive?

the chat was ruled not offensive by RAzo and here is a ruling from a prior thread by King A:

Subject: Owenshooter: Flagrant Violations of Community Guidelines

king achilles wrote:This is locked and closed.

Remember that the Foe option is always there and ready to be utilized anytime. If you choose not to use the Foe option and still engage people who you have an issue with, that is your personal choice but also be aware that you are also partly accountable on how or where all of this will lead into. Keep on engaging the other person in pointing out how he is wrong, and he does the same, it's a no-win situation for everyone. There is a high probability that it would end up that people will blame us for everything in the end.

When you have an issue about someone's post in the forum, go to that particular forum post, look a bit to the right and find that upside down triangle with an exclamation mark inside - click on it to make a report. Don't do it like this and generalize that the person has trolled or flamed, etc. many times in the forums. People can easily make "revenge" reports and claim anyone as equally annoying.

As for any Global or Live Chat violations, contact any Chat moderators and go from there. If you have an issue with the Chat mod you contacted, feel free to contact the head Chat Moderator and see if you can settle all your concerns regarding your Chat issues. If there is still an issue with the Head Chat Mod, then you can bring it to us only by then.

my work here is done. the black jesus has spoken... case closed...-Jésus noir

hey!! found a show you might be interested in!!! maybe you should sue the network!!!



good luck!!!-Bj

more OS TROLLING?

MSpitts24 wrote:hey!! found a show you might be interested in!!! maybe you should sue the network!!!



good luck!!!-Bj

more OS TROLLING?

please remain on topic. you truly do not understand how C&A works. you can't just keep amending your complaint. please go file another complaint concerning the matter and stop trying to derail this frivolous thread. let me repost my last post, as it is pertinent to your baseless accusation:

owenshooter wrote:the chat was ruled not offensive by RAzo and here is a ruling from a prior thread by King A:

Subject: Owenshooter: Flagrant Violations of Community Guidelines

king achilles wrote:This is locked and closed.

Remember that the Foe option is always there and ready to be utilized anytime. If you choose not to use the Foe option and still engage people who you have an issue with, that is your personal choice but also be aware that you are also partly accountable on how or where all of this will lead into. Keep on engaging the other person in pointing out how he is wrong, and he does the same, it's a no-win situation for everyone. There is a high probability that it would end up that people will blame us for everything in the end.

When you have an issue about someone's post in the forum, go to that particular forum post, look a bit to the right and find that upside down triangle with an exclamation mark inside - click on it to make a report. Don't do it like this and generalize that the person has trolled or flamed, etc. many times in the forums. People can easily make "revenge" reports and claim anyone as equally annoying.

As for any Global or Live Chat violations, contact any Chat moderators and go from there. If you have an issue with the Chat mod you contacted, feel free to contact the head Chat Moderator and see if you can settle all your concerns regarding your Chat issues. If there is still an issue with the Head Chat Mod, then you can bring it to us only by then.

my work here is done. the black jesus has spoken... case closed...-Jésus noir

the black jesus has spoken...-Bj

Pretending to be the son of God is up there with drawing cartoons of Mohamed, and look how that one turned out.

Years on I am still surprised that you dont understand that the black part is irrelevant. The only racist idiot is yourself who thinks anyone cares that you argue that Jesus was black. So what? That has piss all to do with pretending to be the son of God.

(Whilst we get along reasonably well, you know I dont agree with you on this Owen)

This is one of the dumbest reports I've seen in a while.

Why do you even find it offensive? I believe in God and it doesn't offend me in the slightest. He's not literally, in all seriousness, declaring he's God, and if he was, who cares?

~the half-caste Allah

lies make baby jesus cry, caff...
*tuberculosis*

- Spitts, Don't let this get you all flustered, Enjoy your time here and on the planet in general, Fight the real fights, this isn't close to a good argument ok man, let's move on from this before it turns into 2 more pages of back and forth hammering.

- The Italian Stallion has spoken with cannoli nōir

MSpitts24 wrote:Accused:

In global Chat:
MSpitts24: mr owenshooter, please stop the Black Jesus comments. it's offensive mate

Can I suggest you take the advice offered in our community guidelines http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... f=1&t=7785 and use the foe feature that is available to all

I've never heard such a load of bollocks in my entire life (apart from the day I heard Trump won the election).
Blasphemy is only a crime in the most repressive and oppressive regimes on earth - it is not something even worthy of consideration in the free world. I actually find it offensive when I hear people spouting religious beliefs - but it is their right to offend me, so that is fine if it makes them happy.
Real offence occurs when we are dealing with real people (i.e. non-deities!!!). Racism is real, homophobia is real, because we are dealing with real people living in the real world. Unless anyone has any proof for me, blasphemy involves only the offending of an imaginary being - which I'm not sure would actually count as offence, as the "victim" is unlikely to make a defence!!!

MSpitts24 wrote:i was wrong. i am so sorry. i apologize.

that is really big of you. thank you. the black jesus loves and forgives you.-Jésus noir