Conquer Club

Accused:

IILWUHAS

The accused are suspected of:

Severe PM Abuse

Game number(s):

Comments: this player, IILWUHAS, who appears to have a history of abusing other players, has sent a PM to me containing EXTREME racist language. I can overlook the other abuse, but there is no place in this world (and indeed on this site) for racism. It is clearly against the site rules - this is a clear violation of those rules, and I hope the MODS can enforce their rules here to the letter: I will attempt to attach a screen shot of the PM here. Just in case that doesn't work, I have pasted the PM below (and can forward the original to anyone who requests to see it). Thank you. KICK RACISM OUT!!!!!!!!!!


YOU FUCKING CUNT
Sent: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:49 pm
From: IILWUHAS
To: Doctor Spin

SO IM KICKING YOUR CRYBABY CUNT ASS ON HERE AND YOU BE A LITTLE NIGGER CUNT BITCH AND BLOCK ME?? YOU FUCKING COWARD PATHETIC NO SKILL CUNT. WHAT A FUCKING PUSSY YOU ARE

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I trust that makes it very clear to the MOD who is dealing with this.

Thank you.

so... this guys is an OFFICIAL of the SoC Training Academy? really? This is the guy CC lets represent them? wow... i just don't even need to comment on this... there has been an epidemic of racist language within the forums, which CC has dealt with quite well. i hope this is dealt with as swiftly... i also hope he is removed from the SoC... this is absolute trash... the black jesus is appalled...-Jésus noir

TeeGee wrote:Not entering into any debates, and unless instructed differently from the site owner the following will come into effect immediately

The "N" word and any and ALL variations on spelling and pronunciation will be considered to be a racist remark and will be dealt with under the current guidelines for bigotry and racism.

Edit: Context is to be considered. However, using it to call someone or a group of people a name, even if as a joke is not acceptable.
It has been mentioned to me that the word is used in many song lyrics, most sung by those who are most offended by the word, when they mention it, it is not racist or bigoted.

Fair play

If you think it may be considered bigoted or racist, then please do not use it, find another word or better still do not post that sentence

Thank you

Much obliged for your support owenshooter - wise words mate, wise words!

He should not be allowed to be an "official" ever again. AND be given along vacation. Wow...

Guys, let's keep things in context. I think he's just quoting a Dr Dre song

mrswdk wrote:Guys, let's keep things in context. I think he's just quoting a Dr Dre song

I will assume you are being ironic mrswdk. If so, very dry! But hopefully it won't encourage others to laugh off racism as if it's a little bit of a joke.

Cheers

What makes anyone think he's an 'Official' on the SoC ?

Keefie wrote:What makes anyone think he's an 'Official' on the SoC ?

The fact he is a member of "[Official] SoC Training Academy". Just like for example my student Vinc. It appears people are out of touch with the SoC nowadays. Teachers will be a member of something else. I do team training, I'm a member of "SoC Team Game Teachers". Some really official people, think dhallmeyer, also have a fancy colour. This guy is in no way associated with the SoC, he is just enrolled as student I guess.

Either was, the SoC thing is irrelevant in terms of a judgement on his racist language. The evidence is there for all to see. Don't get sidetracked.

Doctor Spin wrote:Either was, the SoC thing is irrelevant in terms of a judgement on his racist language. The evidence is there for all to see. Don't get sidetracked.

Yes I agree, but you should report the PM. Proof like that is easily falsified, you wont get anything in here.

1. Open PM
2. Click the triangle with the exclamation mark, next to "quote"
3. Select your reason to report, probably that it "contains a no-no listed in the Forum Guidelines"
4. Explain your reason.
5. Well, you probably wont hear from it yourself but it will be dealt with the right way,

Extreme Ways wrote:

Doctor Spin wrote:Either was, the SoC thing is irrelevant in terms of a judgement on his racist language. The evidence is there for all to see. Don't get sidetracked.

Yes I agree, but you should report the PM. Proof like that is easily falsified, you wont get anything in here.

1. Open PM
2. Click the triangle with the exclamation mark, next to "quote"
3. Select your reason to report, probably that it "contains a no-no listed in the Forum Guidelines"
4. Explain your reason.
5. Well, you probably wont hear from it yourself but it will be dealt with the right way,

Thanks Extreme Ways - I've done that. Didn't know there was another avenue for reporting! Cheers.

Extreme Ways wrote:

Doctor Spin wrote:Either was, the SoC thing is irrelevant in terms of a judgement on his racist language. The evidence is there for all to see. Don't get sidetracked.

Yes I agree, but you should report the PM. Proof like that is easily falsified, you wont get anything in here.

1. Open PM
2. Click the triangle with the exclamation mark, next to "quote"
3. Select your reason to report, probably that it "contains a no-no listed in the Forum Guidelines"
4. Explain your reason.
5. Well, you probably wont hear from it yourself but it will be dealt with the right way,

This ^ even with your screen shot it helps if you report the PM using the method described above.

Thanks IcePack - done that now! Cheers

He's a student in SoC, not an official, as Extreme explained.

iAmCaffeine wrote:He's a student in SoC, not an official, as Extreme explained.

Absolutely, earlier in the thread it was being implied that he was a CC volunteer. Nope, he's just a member of a user group.

Keefie wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:He's a student in SoC, not an official, as Extreme explained.

Absolutely, earlier in the thread it was being implied that he was a CC volunteer. Nope, he's just a member of a user group.

first, nice avatar... second, was just doing a quick fly by, he is a member of the [official] group. i stand corrected. regardless, no defense for this action. and for those suggesting you merely report the action by clicking the report button on the PM, screw that. when it isn't made public, there is no record of it, there is no way to say, "this is the third offense, they need to be gone", etc... for stuff like this, people need to be aware of the sites stance and the consequences. lately, it has been rock solid and i applaud them.-Bj

p.s.-the wdk defense team isn't one you want backing in your corner here...

Doctor Spin is just a whining UK tosser, all pissed cause I was OWNING him on games, whined like the little girl he is during games, so I ranted on the baby. Sue me...go cry to CC some more .

I have seen far worse on here. Just had enough of this crybaby Doctor Tosser....he whines CONSTANTLY when he loses, he totally ignored when dice rolled in his favor. I could care less about him actually, just fed up with his two faced bs on here. KMA soin...as far as SoC, I never continued with that..until I decide to try and better myself, no point in doing it...people like Spin and owenshooter have some nerve...owenshooter has posted racially devisive bs on his wall, uses this site to promote his twisted notion of equality. what a farce.

So you hypocrite, find NOTHING wrong with ya rap artists saying nigger and calling women whores and sluts, etc etc etc..but NOW you are offended?? lol..yea, NO CREDIBILITY..you are just a situational complainer...when you disown the rap artists, then ya can complain

IILWUHAS wrote:Doctor Spin is just a whining UK tosser, all pissed cause I was OWNING him on games, whined like the little girl he is during games, so I ranted on the baby. Sue me...go cry to CC some more .

Great speech for the defence!! Lol That should help your cause mate!

Everything else is irrelevant. Racist language is the complaint here. Racism, and the use of racist language, is deeply concerning. It is bottom of the pile, the lowest of the low. It is the one thing that is eating our society apart. It has no place on this site - or any place for that matter. You clearly do not understand the severity of your breach - and how even subconsciously considering racism as "ok" or "just one of those things" is helping to encourage the spread of an evil, ignorant, bitter form of hatred. To use that word, thinking it's ok, suggests you are at best uneducated. But stupidity is still no excuse for racism. You deserve to be punished harshly - and hopefully it will teach you to think a bit more about what you have written and why you have written it.

Yours, the whining UK tosser!

IILWUHAS wrote:So you hypocrite, find NOTHING wrong with ya rap artists saying nigger and calling women whores and sluts, etc etc etc..but NOW you are offended?? lol..yea, NO CREDIBILITY..you are just a situational complainer...when you disown the rap artists, then ya can complain

For the record, I can't abide rap. And I detest the use of the "N" word in rap songs, despite its use apparently being in a different (possibly ironic) context. So, yes, I disown the rap artists - but we are NOT talking about rap artists here - we are talking about YOU losing your rag and resorting to the use of severe racist language.

To further "help" your cause, I note you have repeated the use of the "N" word on your latest post in this thread. This is quite incredible. You clearly have no idea what damage racism does. I worry for you and your family mate!

p.s. I don't know whatever gave you the idea that I liked (or condoned) rap lyrics in the first place. I've certainly never made that claim in my life!

Doctor Spin wrote:

IILWUHAS wrote:So you hypocrite, find NOTHING wrong with ya rap artists saying nigger and calling women whores and sluts, etc etc etc..but NOW you are offended?? lol..yea, NO CREDIBILITY..you are just a situational complainer...when you disown the rap artists, then ya can complain

For the record, I can't abide rap. And I detest the use of the "N" word in rap songs, despite its use apparently being in a different (possibly ironic) context. So, yes, I disown the rap artists - but we are NOT talking about rap artists here - we are talking about YOU losing your rag and resorting to the use of severe racist language.

To further "help" your cause, I note you have repeated the use of the "N" word on your latest post in this thread. This is quite incredible. You clearly have no idea what damage racism does. I worry for you and your family mate!

you are so pathetic...just another big mouthed hypocrite. quit your crying and ya bs attempts at moral superiority you tosser...you FORGET I have seen the bs you post during games...fact is.."nigger" is in websters dictionary ...go burn a book censor boy

[quote="Doctor Spin"]p.s. I don't know whatever gave you the idea that I liked (or condoned) rap lyrics in the first place. I've certainly never made that claim in my life



you have whined and complained every time ive kicked ya ass...whine about dice, etc..but when in your favour you seem to have no problem?? so what I lost my rag , ya tosser, when you cried and blocked me for kicking your ass??

go cry to ENGLISH dictionary Webster and ask them to remove the term nigger lol...you thought police are amazing..then you make a comment about my family lol?? wtf you know about anything...ive seen your UK crybaby bs during games and had enough...nigger is perfectly acceptable to use...you and owenshooter need to stop ya gestapo ways and shut it...like said, its mainstream, blacks don't seem to mind when selling records to white kids....I could care less that you pretend to be "offended" and use CC as your podium because you have nothing better to do because I owned you during games...you was a bitch about it, and I treated you like one...go figure