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Accused:

[player] SuperSTRIKER
[player] Goosemongles


The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Other: I am new here so not sure exactly what there doing. But they are clearly working together. I searched games they played together in, and one of them has won 10 out of twelve completed games.


Game number(s):

game=16116002


Comments: Excuse me if this is all my imagination. But I don't think so

sinister1957 wrote:
Accused:

SuperSTRIKER
Goosemongles


The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Other: I am new here so not sure exactly what there doing. But they are clearly working together. I searched games they played together in, and one of them has won 10 out of twelve completed games.


Game number(s):

Game 16116002


Comments: Excuse me if this is all my imagination. But I don't think so

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sinister1957 wrote:Other: I am new here so not sure exactly what there doing. But they are clearly working together. I searched games they played together in, and one of them has won 10 out of twelve completed games. Excuse me if this is all my imagination. But I don't think so

you are new, so i'm going to be nice. you should have posted all of those game numbers, it helps the mods when it is all in one neat little package. you should thank clang for fixing your post, it was a mess (it is tough the first time, i know..). anyway, good luck! i'm not going to state an opinion until i go look at all those games...

that didn't take too long!!! ha! Super has won 5 of the 13 they have played together and Goose has won 2... do you have any specific instances or is it a gut feeling? oddly, they could really be friends that just enjoy playing... or they could be a freaking multi... maybe they get noted, maybe it really is one dude... the mods will use their Maxwell Smart mod tools and get it figured out. good luck!!! the black jesus has spoken...-Bj

Jr. Mints at Work

owenshooter wrote:

sinister1957 wrote:Other: I am new here so not sure exactly what there doing. But they are clearly working together. I searched games they played together in, and one of them has won 10 out of twelve completed games. Excuse me if this is all my imagination. But I don't think so

you are new, so i'm going to be nice. you should have posted all of those game numbers, it helps the mods when it is all in one neat little package. you should thank clang for fixing your post, it was a mess (it is tough the first time, i know..). anyway, good luck! i'm not going to state an opinion until i go look at all those games...

that didn't take too long!!! ha! Super has won 5 of the 13 they have played together and Goose has won 2... do you have any specific instances or is it a gut feeling? oddly, they could really be friends that just enjoy playing... or they could be a freaking multi... maybe they get noted, maybe it really is one dude... the mods will use their Maxwell Smart mod tools and get it figured out. good luck!!! the black jesus has spoken...-Bj

Jr. Mints at Work

Thanks for helping.

I just recounted, out of 12 completed games goosemongles won 6 and SuperSTRIKER won 2. I must have counted the same row twice before. Seems like you counted wrong too. Or we are looking at different things. Anyway they are Definitely working together. I made a comment to one on his strategy and the other one replied back mimicking my statement as if I said it to him. That is not the reason I suspect them, it just the total way they are playing makes no sense unless they are working together.

sinister1957 wrote: it just the total way they are playing makes no sense unless they are working together.

Please give some detail on how they are working together. The game listed is in round 71. That is a lot of game to look through.

Owen I don't have the shoe phone anymore. Every time I would use it I passed out. Not sure why.

Evil Semp wrote:

sinister1957 wrote: it just the total way they are playing makes no sense unless they are working together.

Please give some detail on how they are working together. The game listed is in round 71. That is a lot of game to look through.

Owen I don't have the shoe phone anymore. Every time I would use it I passed out. Not sure why.

Where do I start. If you were watching play you would have noticed they never attacked each other other than to get spoils ...(They would feed each other 1 army countries) ...When goosemongles was in jeopardy of getting knocked out SuperSTRIKER got in between attackers affording goosemongles the time to rebuild.

Now I understand sometimes it advantageous to help another player but I could not understand the logic of any of their play. That combined with the fact that one of them wins in 70% of the games they play in together seems a little suspicious also. It is just so Obvious. After 70 rounds of this its clear to me.

If its to much trouble to investigate it forget it ..I do not want to be a burden ...Just want to play a fair game. In general I am not a complainer I would not have started this thread so late in the game if I knew it would caused you any trouble.

Thanks

sinister1957 wrote:Where do I star

Where you first started to think they were working together.

sinister1957 wrote: If you were watching play

Obviously I wasn't that is why I asked for some details.

sinister1957 wrote:you would have noticed they never attacked each other other than to get spoils ...(They would feed each other 1 army countries)

I only have the game log to look at. It doesn't say how many troops attacked or were attacked.

sinister1957 wrote:When goosemongles was in jeopardy of getting knocked out SuperSTRIKER got in between attackers affording goosemongles the time to rebuild.

What round was this?

sinister1957 wrote:Now I understand sometimes it advantageous to help another player

Or not to break a bonus. Let someone else break the bonus.

sinister1957 wrote:but I could not understand the logic of any of their play

Just because you think a player should do a certain move doesn't mean that it is the best move for them.

sinister1957 wrote:That combined with the fact that one of them wins in 70% of the games they play in together seems a little suspicious also

I will take a look at these games after I check out the current game.

sinister1957 wrote:It is just so Obvious. After 70 rounds of this its clear to me.

It is obvious to you after playing in the same game for 70 rounds, Again I only have the game log to go by and was asking for some details.

sinister1957 wrote:If its to much trouble to investigate it forget it

I will ask the same question to you. Is it to much trouble to ask you for some details. After all you are the one who is in the game.

sinister1957 wrote:Just want to play a fair game

That is why I do what I do here. I don't like cheaters.

sinister1957 wrote: In general I am not a complainer I would not have started this thread so late in the game if I knew it would caused you any trouble.

Again I will repeat one of your comments. If I knew asking you for details would cause you trouble I wouldn't have asked.

I am looking into this and will look at their other games also. It might take a little time.

Evil Semp wrote:

sinister1957 wrote:Where do I star

Where you first started to think they were working together.

sinister1957 wrote: If you were watching play

Obviously I wasn't that is why I asked for some details.

sinister1957 wrote:you would have noticed they never attacked each other other than to get spoils ...(They would feed each other 1 army countries)

I only have the game log to look at. It doesn't say how many troops attacked or were attacked.

sinister1957 wrote:When goosemongles was in jeopardy of getting knocked out SuperSTRIKER got in between attackers affording goosemongles the time to rebuild.

What round was this?

sinister1957 wrote:Now I understand sometimes it advantageous to help another player

Or not to break a bonus. Let someone else break the bonus.

sinister1957 wrote:but I could not understand the logic of any of their play

Just because you think a player should do a certain move doesn't mean that it is the best move for them.

sinister1957 wrote:That combined with the fact that one of them wins in 70% of the games they play in together seems a little suspicious also

I will take a look at these games after I check out the current game.

sinister1957 wrote:It is just so Obvious. After 70 rounds of this its clear to me.

It is obvious to you after playing in the same game for 70 rounds, Again I only have the game log to go by and was asking for some details.

sinister1957 wrote:If its to much trouble to investigate it forget it

I will ask the same question to you. Is it to much trouble to ask you for some details. After all you are the one who is in the game.

sinister1957 wrote:Just want to play a fair game

That is why I do what I do here. I don't like cheaters.

sinister1957 wrote: In general I am not a complainer I would not have started this thread so late in the game if I knew it would caused you any trouble.

Again I will repeat one of your comments. If I knew asking you for details would cause you trouble I wouldn't have asked.

I am looking into this and will look at their other games also. It might take a little time.

It seems you think I was being sarcastic with you. I really didn't want to cause you any extra work. Its only a game. I was only trying to point out it was easier for "ME" to see it because "I" played 70 rounds. I total understand it would be harder for you. It is also hard for me to explain the details.

Again I am not trying to be combative with you. When you explained how difficult it was to review I just figured I didnt want to put you out. I'm sure you have better things to do. At the end of the day its only a game.


Sorry for the confusion.

i think he was just being thorough with his response.

jmyork82 wrote:i think he was just being thorough with his response.

I sure he is doing what he thinks is right, he may have misunderstood where I was coming from.

One of the reasons I hate texting and emails to explain a situation. While convenient I find it sometimes leads to misunderstands and more confusion. Especially when you don't know each other.

Peace

Bro, just give some more details.

sinister1957 wrote:

jmyork82 wrote:i think he was just being thorough with his response.

I sure he is doing what he thinks is right, he may have misunderstood where I was coming from.

One of the reasons I hate texting and emails to explain a situation. While convenient I find it sometimes leads to misunderstands and more confusion. Especially when you don't know each other.

Peace

Bro, just give some details. Rather than scream "Pasta SAUCE, because spaghetti!". If you can't articulate why you think they are cheating, how can someone objectively looking through the evidence have any chance of proving something which you can't describe, and the investigator probably can't see.

Well I can't see what the OP saw, and without any more input from him I am going to mark this CLOSED.

pesto.