Conquer Club

Accused:

Doctor Spin



The accused are suspected of: Dead beat



Game number(s):

16830988


Comments:

I beat this loser once in the USA map and in the next match he stopped taking his turns once things started to go wrong with him. I saw him taking turns against other players in other boards but not in the one that we were playing. Blocking one of my slots (have four only as you know). I later checked with his ratings and have seen that he has done this many times before. Such a pathetic loser.

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- How/What/Where/Who??!!!

The Lost Warrior wrote:Accused:

Doctor Spin



The accused are suspected of: Dead beat



Game number(s):

Game 16830988


Comments:

I beat this loser once in the USA map and in the next match he stopped taking his turns once things started to go wrong with him. I saw him taking turns against other players in other boards but not in the one that we were playing. Blocking one of my slots (have four only as you know). I later checked with his ratings and have seen that he has done this many times before. Such a pathetic loser.

Linked.

Intentional deadbeating; does this also count as holding a player hostage?

Doctor Spin has been tossed into C&A so many times he's surely do a short trip into the real world.

Well lets not go out and call him a pathetic loser, that gets us nowhere

Your point?

iAmCaffeine wrote:Doctor Spin has been tossed into C&A so many times he's surely do a short trip into the real world.

yes, every forum regular knows this to be the case... but with all things like this, what is the tipping point for this? more specifically, what is the tipping point for the mod involved?! this is really going to boil down to which C&A mod gets this case... either we get the hell and brimstone of EVIL SEMP or we get someone else... ha!!! this guy is chronic and i'm not talking snoop dogg... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-has the OP done more research and put all of his prior C&A accusations/violations/warnings in his post, this guy would be gone

getting chronic with snoop

owennn your aliveeeeeee

This is so unfortunate that people like him goes unpunished.

Sorry for missed turns. Sometimes life just gets in the way.

The added factor here was that Lost Warrior was highly abusive (verbally). That did not lead me to missing turns, but did mean that I did not rush to complete the game. There's nothing that says we have to tackle games in the order in which they appear in Central Command. It is not my concern that he does not pay for a subscription - though he has that option if he wants to play more games.

As far as I am aware, this complaint is all I'm being judged on. Most of the time I have appeared on C&A forum in the past was when I had been reporting other players!!!

My intention is always to take turns within the 24-hour time slot - but sometimes other aspects of life can unfortunately interrupt my play.

[For the record, please note that most of my game chat is tongue-in-cheek.]

This is another example of how corrupt this individual is. Here he tried to defend himself by saying "things come on the way". If anyone with the lowest level of understanding goes through the pattern that he followed to play this game, it would be clear that he intentionally blocked my slot after I defeated him in one game and was at the upper hand in the next. Every time he took his turn in the 24th hour of the game just to linger it. These are nasty people who should be banned from the game. They pollute the environment.

The Lost Warrior wrote:This is another example of how corrupt this individual is. Here he tried to defend himself by saying "things come on the way". If anyone with the lowest level of understanding goes through the pattern that he followed to play this game, it would be clear that he intentionally blocked my slot after I defeated him in one game and was at the upper hand in the next. Every time he took his turn in the 24th hour of the game just to linger it. These are nasty people who should be banned from the game. They pollute the environment.

Your language in the game chat, lost warrior, is just as much concern as what you are accusing Spin over. SO, if you are gonna say "These are nasty people who should be banned from the game. They pollute the environment", you are in the same category of "nasty people" on this site. This is a friendly place where people build bonds over the intense game of risk, not somewhere to let your lid loose.

Well I guess you should have checked the other game that I played with him as well and you would know who started it first. And once I realized that he is intentionally delaying his turns, I got pissed. I had good reasons to lash at him. Well if you don't see that, it is your problem. You can check this guy's ratings. This is not the first time he did this thing. So maybe you should not encourage him.

I see Doctor Spin do this in many games. his rating tells the story. if you no ready to accept defeat, dont play. you intentionally blocking non premium player's slot is very unfair.

owenshooter wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:Doctor Spin has been tossed into C&A so many times he's surely do a short trip into the real world.

yes, every forum regular knows this to be the case... but with all things like this, what is the tipping point for this? more specifically, what is the tipping point for the mod involved?! this is really going to boil down to which C&A mod gets this case... either we get the hell and brimstone of EVIL SEMP or we get someone else... ha!!! this guy is chronic and i'm not talking snoop dogg... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-has the OP done more research and put all of his prior C&A accusations/violations/warnings in his post, this guy would be gone

getting chronic with snoop

Can't Agree more.....

Not talking about this case in particular since I haven't looked into the accused nor the games submitted, but reading the comments here.

Intentionally "delaying turns" is very different than intentional deadbeating.
Delaying turns (and even missing turns) might suck but the rules allow the time.
Intentionally deadbeating is against the rules, which is totally different than being delayed.
Holding hostage is not waiting until the last moment to take turns, that's when the game is over and you are dropping and ending and not making the final eliminations etc, again different than just letting time get low.

Go check out this game (strangely enough it's against Gladdan, who has also pitched his views against me on this post): Game #16842348
It shows The Lost Warrior posting abuse on a game he wasn't even playing in - and shows just what sort of player he is.

Game 16842348

He should just foe me (like I foed him) and get a life!

Doctor Spin wrote:Go check out this game (strangely enough it's against Gladdan, who has also pitched his views against me on this post): Game #16842348
It shows The Lost Warrior posting abuse on a game he wasn't even playing in - and shows just what sort of player he is.

Game 16842348

He should just foe me (like I foed him) and get a life!

If he's following you in games to shitpost that's actually against the rules.

Well when a player is dirty like Dr. Spin, he should be brought into the day light and be warned about so that a dead beat nasty player can be avoided at the first place.

iAmCaffeine wrote:

Doctor Spin wrote:Go check out this game (strangely enough it's against Gladdan, who has also pitched his views against me on this post): Game #16842348
It shows The Lost Warrior posting abuse on a game he wasn't even playing in - and shows just what sort of player he is.

Game 16842348

He should just foe me (like I foed him) and get a life!

If he's following you in games to shitpost that's actually against the rules.

yeah, but it's fun and entertaining as all hell sometimes...

The Lost Warrior wrote:Well when a player is dirty like Dr. Spin, he should be brought into the day light and be warned about so that a dead beat nasty player can be avoided at the first place.

Presumably, if he's as dastardly as you perceive him to be, other players he's in games with will notice that and don't need your biased view on the matter.

You filed your report and it's being dealt with. All you're doing now is dragging your own name down.

Doctor Spin wrote:Go check out this game (strangely enough it's against Gladdan, who has also pitched his views against me on this post): Game #16842348
It shows The Lost Warrior posting abuse on a game he wasn't even playing in - and shows just what sort of player he is.

Game 16842348

He should just foe me (like I foed him) and get a life!

Well, it looks like The Lost Warrior is attempting to cover his tracks. He's removed his shitpost from the game (which he was not playing in!!), but for anyone interested The Lost Warrior wrote the following, presumably addressed at Gladdan, who was my opponent in the game:

The Lost Warrior: Go kick this bastard named Doctor Spin

It didn't overly bother me, but he must have realised he broke CC rules by posting like that on other players' games. Just for the record, that's all!!

It's not deleted you probably have him foed so it doesn't show up

Doctor Spin, I think it is you who is trying to draw attention away from your ill doings by mentioning about comments in other games by lost warrior. i go and check your ratings and what comments you yourself made in different forum posts and in PM, clear that you are an abuser. you should be ashamed that you not recognize your mistakes.

First, for those who feel they have been wronged, trolling into that person's games is just putting yourself into a bad light. Trolling them in games you are not a part of is not condoned nor an acceptable practice regardless of whatever rightful or vindictive reasons you think that person deserves to have. What happens between you and another player is your own business. Let the other players enjoy their own games and let us deal with your issue.

So in summary this is about a game where one player intentionally missed or didn't take his turns and presumably was made aware of the report.

My intention is always to take turns within the 24-hour time slot - but sometimes other aspects of life can unfortunately interrupt my play.

Game 16830988
2016-09-04 10:58:09 - Doctor Spin missed a turn
2016-09-05 11:39:09 - Doctor Spin missed a turn

Game 16833020
2016-09-04 09:04:39 - Doctor Spin got bonus of 2 troops added to A16

Game 16833012
2016-09-04 09:05:50 - Doctor Spin received 4 troops for 14 regions

If you have the chance to take your turn on a game, rather than delaying it, why not take your turn at that time? If it comes to the point that you will actually miss your turn while it shows that you were able to take turns to your other games at the time, then there is no one to blame for this irresponsibility but yourself. Also, considering the circumstances surrounding this, it further shows how maliciously you missed your turns for this game. I will note this report as an act of intentional missing of turns against a non-premium player. This may not be a severe case right now but I would hope that there will be no more similar reports like this. It's ridiculous and this would have been avoided if you simply took your turns.

The turns he took were 2+ hours before the ones that were missed.
Sometimes you don't have time to take all your turns at once, and plan to come back and take them later. Sometimes unexpectedly you aren't able to get back.

Example from my personal experience:
Noon I take a few turns during my lunch break. I have a fixed amount of time to take turns. Now I'm off work @ 330, but might have a game due in 4 hours.
I don't take it bcuz I don't have enough time on my lunch but I know I'm still able to do so after work under normal circumstances.
Go back to work, an issue occurs and I work late. Unavoidable miss even tho I was able to successfully take turns several hours prior.