Conquer Club

Accused:

ADodgeStratus




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Comments: Probably too new, but should be kept an eye on.

correct.
Nothing to see as of yet.

sniff

Cleared

sniffie wrote:correct.
Nothing to see as of yet.

sniff

cheers

sniffie wrote:correct.
Nothing to see as of yet.

sniff

that would be because the accuser didn't put anything forward... the black jesus is appalled by this display of laziness...-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:

sniffie wrote:correct.
Nothing to see as of yet.

sniff

that would be because the accuser didn't put anything forward... the black jesus is appalled by this display of laziness...-Jésus noir

Multi checks dont require anything to go with it.

Its almost like I know how they do it or something....

It is obvious to everyone in Off Topic that this is pimpdave. Just because he doesn't come up with the same IP addresses or whatnot doesn't mean it's not him.

if it is pimpdave, like you claim, mets - i don't think i care for him that much.

Metsfanmax wrote:It is obvious to everyone in Off Topic that this is pimpdave. Just because he doesn't come up with the same IP addresses or whatnot doesn't mean it's not him.

"Dodge Stratus" only turns up as being used before by a few players- pimpdave is one, saxitoxin and georgerx7di are the other two.

Metsfanmax wrote:It is obvious to everyone in Off Topic that this is pimpdave. Just because he doesn't come up with the same IP addresses or whatnot doesn't mean it's not him.

What's an easy way to increase user count? Ignore multis. Plus, Pimpdave was so great because he generated TONS of quality forum posts.

BGtheBrain wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:It is obvious to everyone in Off Topic that this is pimpdave. Just because he doesn't come up with the same IP addresses or whatnot doesn't mean it's not him.

What's an easy way to increase user count? Ignore multis. Plus, Pimpdave was so great because he generated TONS of quality forum posts.

Then copy paste some posts that show the accused is pimpdave. Just complaining around won't get anyone any further.
Saying I am ignoring multis is plain rubbish but I will need something to work with. I am appalled that people think I know all the posts in all the forums around here,

Sniff

sniffie wrote:

BGtheBrain wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:It is obvious to everyone in Off Topic that this is pimpdave. Just because he doesn't come up with the same IP addresses or whatnot doesn't mean it's not him.

What's an easy way to increase user count? Ignore multis. Plus, Pimpdave was so great because he generated TONS of quality forum posts.

Then copy paste some posts that show the accused is pimpdave. Just complaining around won't get anyone any further.
Saying I am ignoring multis is plain rubbish but I will need something to work with. I am appalled that people think I know all the posts in all the forums around here,

Sniff

seriously... put up or shut up... just saying "it is so obvious", doesn't get someone booted... a lot of the mods don't even know pimpdave and wouldn't be familiar with his posting style... do as Sniffie suggested and take care of it, if it really matters that much to you...-Jésus noir

Doesn't matter that much to me. I don't really care about the multiple account rule. But I know some of you take it seriously, so I'm just putting it out there in case you feel like following up.

They basically have the same idiolect- same turns of phrase, same vocab, same behaviour, etc. I don't know how the mods look for multis, but I doubt they pay that much attention to writing. It's either PD or someone doing a very accurate parody.

i doubt copy pasting phrases of both could be considered evidence... anyways who cares je doesn't even play the game.

It's never that simple, so you can't blame sniffie. You guys should know that already though. He would have to have interacted with the banned user on a semi-regular basis before he was banned in order to be able to say "oh yes, that's him." Multi tools are only useful to an extent. What you can do though is check the location of old IPs versus the location of new IPs. Even if there isn't a match, it gives a better idea. Serious trolls spend money on VPN services to avoid that though, so sometimes it does take time to fully decide if someone is indeed a ban evader. I'm speaking purely from experience with forum trolls, not game multies.

Metsfanmax wrote:Doesn't matter that much to me. I don't really care about the multiple account rule. But I know some of you take it seriously, so I'm just putting it out there in case you feel like following up.

this is probably the most destructive comment i have ever seen a team member post in our fair fauna... arguably the most destructive... could be the most dangerous... either way, i hope Met's comes back and edits it or mod gives it the ol "mod edit" treatment. that post is treading in Wicked territory. you should be both reprimanded and ashamed.

Shannon Apple wrote:It's never that simple, so you can't blame sniffie. You guys should know that already though. He would have to have interacted with the banned user on a semi-regular basis before he was banned in order to be able to say "oh yes, that's him." Multi tools are only useful to an extent. What you can do though is check the location of old IPs versus the location of new IPs. Even if there isn't a match, it gives a better idea. Serious trolls spend money on VPN services to avoid that though, so sometimes it does take time to fully decide if someone is indeed a ban evader. I'm speaking purely from experience with forum trolls, not game multies.

i agree 100% with shannon, which means she is 102% correct... many banned forum members made forays back into the fauna, after their bans... they put on new hats and tried to cover who they were... but regulars could sniff them out and they soon grew tired of not being able to be "themselves". sniffie never interacted with Pimp, he wouldn't know a pimp post if it was on his wall. and that is totally not his fault! the tools only go so far, as shannon said. and if the guy is just posting in off topics, who really cares? weren't the off topics crew trying to get rid of Bernie Sanders a few months ago? the mods could not figure out who he was, but it wasn't hard if you just paid attention. this is all that sniff-a-holic could do and if you want further action, you should gather the evidence and present it in a way that anyone that is not a forum goer would say, "f*ck yeah, that's the same dude!!"

good luck, my children... go forth and play nice... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

the Stratus lives on!!!!

betiko wrote:i doubt copy pasting phrases of both could be considered evidence... anyways who cares je doesn't even play the game.

It works in my field, an unusual turn of phrase or turn of language helps work out plagiarism if it's repeated.

Metsfanmax wrote:I don't really care about the multiple account rule.

ADodgeStratus confirmed as Metsfanmax's multi.

Symmetry wrote:

betiko wrote:i doubt copy pasting phrases of both could be considered evidence... anyways who cares je doesn't even play the game.

It works in my field, an unusual turn of phrase or turn of language helps work out plagiarism if it's repeated.

plagiarism. not proof that it's the same author, that's quite a big difference.

betiko wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

betiko wrote:i doubt copy pasting phrases of both could be considered evidence... anyways who cares je doesn't even play the game.

It works in my field, an unusual turn of phrase or turn of language helps work out plagiarism if it's repeated.

plagiarism. not proof that it's the same author, that's quite a big difference.

Passing off a fellow student's essay as your own is plagiarism. I take your point, but the principle is the same.

Symmetry wrote:

betiko wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

betiko wrote:i doubt copy pasting phrases of both could be considered evidence... anyways who cares je doesn't even play the game.

It works in my field, an unusual turn of phrase or turn of language helps work out plagiarism if it's repeated.

plagiarism. not proof that it's the same author, that's quite a big difference.

Passing off a fellow student's essay as your own is plagiarism. I take your point, but the principle is the same.

So we agree that you are off subject.
A mod can't punish someone for being a multi just because he expresses himself the same way as another user in some or all of his posts.

You can punish a student for copying an essay though... There is enough evidence quite easily.

betiko wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

betiko wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

betiko wrote:i doubt copy pasting phrases of both could be considered evidence... anyways who cares je doesn't even play the game.

It works in my field, an unusual turn of phrase or turn of language helps work out plagiarism if it's repeated.

plagiarism. not proof that it's the same author, that's quite a big difference.

Passing off a fellow student's essay as your own is plagiarism. I take your point, but the principle is the same.

So we agree that you are off subject.
A mod can't punish someone for being a multi just because he expresses himself the same way as another user in some or all of his posts.

You can punish a student for copying an essay though... There is enough evidence quite easily.

You're massively incorrect.

1) Not off subject, mate. My point is that you can identify a person going under several different names by their writing style.

2) Who said anything about copying? If a student writes another student's paper they won't copy. It'll be written in another person's style. If that person's style is recognisable, there's grounds for doubt.

3)I think it should be a tool in any mods arsenal.

4) What's with your weird defence of him and your post on his wall?

Symmetry wrote:blah, blah, blah...

who cares? it is has been ruled on... add something to prove the ruling was wrong, like actual evidence... or STFU... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir