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krolt Rakorski Ray [ka]

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:38 am
by stringybeany
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Accused:

Rakorski Ray
krolt
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The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Other: <Explanation>
I joined the listed game, a 3p pelo wars.
something smelled bad so I ran a game finder, and the two of them have played or have active 32 games on this map at these settings. I haven't lost yet, because the game just started, but does anyone want to take bet on the outcome? :->

The two of them, or one of them mostly, have won the majority of the games

3p game abuse is hard to make stick, but from here these guys look a little too friendly...

I don't care all that much, but at the same time this is why I avoid 3p games usually...

"oh we are just friends and like this map!" lol :lol:

Game number(s):

Game 16310938
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[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:

Re: krolt Rakorski Ray

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:45 am
by iAmCaffeine
stringybeany wrote:Accused:
Rakorski Ray
krolt

The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
Game 16310938

Comments: I joined the listed game, a 3p pelo wars.
something smelled bad so I ran a game finder, and the two of them have played or have active 32 games on this map at these settings. I haven't lost yet, because the game just started, but does anyone want to take bet on the outcome? :->

The two of them, or one of them mostly, have won the majority of the games

3p game abuse is hard to make stick, but from here these guys look a little too friendly...

I don't care all that much, but at the same time this is why I avoid 3p games usually...

"oh we are just friends and like this map!" lol :lol:

You should really know how to fill out the form man. Also, I'd list more games if I were you.

Happy hunting.

Re: krolt Rakorski Ray

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:17 am
by Donelladan
They played 22 three-player games together.
The 3rd guy won 6 games among those 22. Which is not so far from what would be expecting, assuming 33% win per players it would mean 7,3 wins for the 3rd players, we have 6 here.
krolt won 5 times.
Rakorski Ray won 11 times, with 6 wins over 8 on pelopenese war. But if we assume Rakorski Ray is quite good on Pelo war then it's to be expected his win % is above the average 33%.
He is creating the game after all, and he played 444 games on pelo war 3 players. ( 444 games play on pelo war 3 players but only 8 with krolt).

They otherwise have 9 actives games, but what can we say about it before it's finished ? The 9 active games are all round 1.


Nothing fishy for me, just seems they both like 3 players games a lot.

Re: krolt Rakorski Ray

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:59 am
by stringybeany
yeah yeah. it's all ok. we'll see how it works out. To all that join with this pair, beware!

Oh and I am -so- sorry for failing to follow the form procedure with precision. That is of course the most important issue here. :lol:

Re: krolt Rakorski Ray

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:17 am
by elfish_lad
Yes sb old boy. Get your shitte together already.

E.

Re: krolt Rakorski Ray

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:37 pm
by Symmetry
stringybeany wrote:yeah yeah. it's all ok. we'll see how it works out. To all that join with this pair, beware!

Oh and I am -so- sorry for failing to follow the form procedure with precision. That is of course the most important issue here. :lol:


The point of filling out the form is kinda that it allows the mods and other players to evaluate the issue easily. It's also so that accusations have to be well thought out. If you're just going to say that these players are good at playing on a certain map, that's not really cheating or abuse mate.

If you feel that they are colluding in some way, that's why the form asks for evidence.

The community tends to look unfavourably on tendentious c&a reports regarding ongoing games. It sort of looks like a cheap tactic to threaten potential cooperation between opponents.

Re: krolt Rakorski Ray

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:05 pm
by king achilles
This SD report was filed when the game has initially started and you got suspicious because they have a history of playing games together?

Right now, it's only on the 5th round and no one has yet reached that point where he has conquered a region other than a neutral territory. We don't have anything to investigate here. Continue to play the game.