Conquer Club

Accused:
thelord

The accused is suspected of:
Other: deliberately giving the game to another player without having anything to gain.
the game reached the round limit and thelord was at a point where he couldn't win
the game anymore but he kept rolling long enough to take the win away from me without
gaining anything as far as the tournament is concerned because I have won no points.
my loss gave him no advantage.

Game number(s):
Game 15882260

Comments: if he did it by mistake then he could have said so,
send a pm or something. he did nothing.

What do you mean? I want to know why he stopped attacking you and green, so close to victory.

Its limited turn which always sparks similar nonsense. And notice that he auto attacked.

- Let me know if I'm wrong here, But my concern is Lord was the last turn of the limited war and he left 43 troops hanging out on OC3 when they could of jumped out and went after Green and Red? He ends the last turn of a limited war with 43 troops hanging out? Am I wrong in saying it looks like a conscious effort to make sure Ucki lost? Damn it looks like it?

\MGM/ ♎

Couldn't it be that he tried to reduce you below him, failed and therefore stoped ? Seems to me with some good dice he could have reduced both red and you below him, since he failed with you he stopped.

Lol or he didnt realise it was limited rounds and he went last. Hoping it would cause a retaliation last round flurry.

oh, i thought this was about me... um, what eddie2 said, yeah... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

once he ended the turn the game ended, so he would know he made a mistake.
if that was the case he could've said so and he said nothing.

as for idea that he maybe wanted to roll against two of us: if that was the case,
he would actually have to roll against both of us and not just me. and then, just
like that, he gives up once I'm below red? nah
why not continue then? he would have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

It appears as though thelord could have won this game if his 43 troops were positioned better. With that said, he could have made it very interesting if he did, in fact, use those troops to try and lower every player below him.

Perhaps he just isn't that good of a player? Anyways, with these settings it always seems like someone gets screwed. It's almost like if you attack someone, then you're doing something wrong.

uckuki wrote:once he ended the turn the game ended, so he would know he made a mistake.
if that was the case he could've said so and he said nothing.

as for idea that he maybe wanted to roll against two of us: if that was the case,
he would actually have to roll against both of us and not just me. and then, just
like that, he gives up once I'm below red? nah
why not continue then? he would have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

- Some people just don't chat at all, But still, the guy rips off on Ucki, stops when Ucki is below Red, and even if he didn't realize round limit, He wasn't going for a bonus or protecting anything during and after assault on Uck, So why leave +43 troops sitting still when 2 other oppositions are in range and very easily taken down? Be nice to listen to what his take is on this, hopefully he says he was going to continue attacking but his cat ran across the desk and hit the E key and turn ended, then the cat knocked over his coffee and the keypad is junk, he couldn't apologize in chat and said screw it, I'll at least give him a good rating,,,,," Hopefully something like that ") Otherwise it just don't make sense .

~~Italiano Stalliano has spoken in tone of noir and a canoli for dessert ")

How would sending a 43 stack at a 13 stack of the player in fourth help thelord win?

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:How would sending a 43 stack at a 13 stack of the player in fourth help thelord win?

- 43 v 13 is a stepping stone, I don't know why either way, I saw he could have taken 2 more Red and tied it up? No clue, I sent a polite message to him telling him he's here, and we are too I guess, so he should be here shortly and we hear what Lord says.

-MG-

uckuki wrote:Comments: if he did it by mistake then he could have said so,
send a pm or something. he did nothing.

I'm not saying you're right and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you did call him a piece of shit in the game chat so maybe he didn't want to talk no more

Coler wrote:

uckuki wrote:Comments: if he did it by mistake then he could have said so,
send a pm or something. he did nothing.

I'm not saying you're right and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you did call him a piece of shit in the game chat so maybe he didn't want to talk no more

- Except that Ucki's comment came 9+ hours after war ended

- I'd go with its the cats fault , Probably a foe and move on scenario with a cupcake on the side, who really knows except "the Lord"?

-♎ MG ♎ -

MagnusGreeol wrote:

Coler wrote:

uckuki wrote:Comments: if he did it by mistake then he could have said so,
send a pm or something. he did nothing.

I'm not saying you're right and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you did call him a piece of shit in the game chat so maybe he didn't want to talk no more

- Except that Ucki's comment came 9+ hours after war ended

Errrr...yeah...

Is the point that the other guy had plenty of time to send a pm explaining himself but didn't (hey I'll bet everyone here does that haha) ?

Or what is the point ?

Coler wrote:

MagnusGreeol wrote:

Coler wrote:

uckuki wrote:Comments: if he did it by mistake then he could have said so,
send a pm or something. he did nothing.

I'm not saying you're right and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you did call him a piece of shit in the game chat so maybe he didn't want to talk no more

- Except that Ucki's comment came 9+ hours after war ended

Errrr...yeah...

Is the point that the other guy had plenty of time to send a pm explaining himself but didn't (hey I'll bet everyone here does that haha) ?

Or what is the point ?

- I don't know what to tell ya, Your guess is as good as mine, maybe better, Who knows, maybe he shows up, maybe not, Don't believe this will get far, and I I'm not guessing anymore, and I don't want to point ")

\MGM/ ♎

My guess is clear/closed. Need more than 1 game to my knowledge.

Just got pm'd to comment so I will. Started by starting to reduce blue low enough. that failed with crap dice. Realised the stack in Aus was going to take a hammering going through green to hit red so pointless. Stopped at that point figuring if nothing else i'd lose less points. No tactics in terms of who was favoured.
Sorry Uck

I kind of figured that that was the case. If you had attacked IN2 with your 43 troops, it could cost you as well and then whatever remaining troops you have left could be in futile to lessen red (and blue) furthermore? You decided not to bother or not to continue anymore.

Whoever loses because of your attack would get suspicious of your move, especially in this case.

I was in a similar situation some time ago and I was the last player in a round limit game. You could say I had the "power" to choose who could win since my other 2 opponents were in a close fight but I must say I was not far behind (about 10 troops behind). I tried my luck on the last turn but the dice went against me. I tried and tried to weaken both players but it was me who got the bad end of the rolls. I stopped my attacks when they had an even number of troops (I think) but with that, I also know who would win. The player who lost could get suspicious of me and can accuse me of giving the game away. I didn't. I tried my best to possibly win but eventually I couldn't. Any player who lost in a situation like that could argue with the attacker why didn't he attacked the other player more, or maybe argue why he made an attack at all rather than just sit and let the game end.

I guess in a round limit game, until the last player has finished his turn, regardless if you think the last player to take the turn has no chance anymore, don't be too sure yet. People will still do what they do and we can all be unpredictable.

The player who lost could get suspicious of me and can accuse me of giving the game away. I didn't. I tried my best to possibly win but eventually I couldn't. Any player who lost in a situation like that could argue with the attacker why didn't he attacked the other player more, or maybe argue why he made an attack at all rather than just sit and let the game end.

You're right, but if I am in thelord situation, after failing to reduce both, I'll still make the player that had the lead before my turn win the game, meaning if I was thelord, I would have then spend few troops against red to give back the lead to Uck. Not a rule, ofc, just feeling the right way to do things.

Looking at the tourney set up. It is 24 players in each round. So would it be a point issue for positioning.he was in 3rd place 2 points, He came in 2nd place, so would that be 3 points. If he attacked green then the other one it would of reduced him to 4th place and 1 point.

Dont know if thats how its set up but if it is then thats the real reason for it.

this was a tournament game and not just some random fun game where only
points/win matter. deliberately throwing a tournament game for reasons that have
nothing to do with tourney is not ok. if you care for points there's plenty
of rookies more than ready to provide points in random, non-tourney escalators,
terminators, polys, etc, etc.

uckuki wrote:this was a tournament game and not just some random fun game where only
points/win matter. deliberately throwing a tournament game for reasons that have
nothing to do with tourney is not ok. if you care for points there's plenty
of rookies more than ready to provide points in random, non-tourney escalators,
terminators, polys, etc, etc.

but he didn't throw the game... are you following your own thread? he stated he had a bad turn:

thelord wrote:Just got pm'd to comment so I will. Started by starting to reduce blue low enough. that failed with crap dice. Realised the stack in Aus was going to take a hammering going through green to hit red so pointless. Stopped at that point figuring if nothing else i'd lose less points. No tactics in terms of who was favoured.
Sorry Uck

it happens... get over it... suck it up, cupcake...-Jésus noir

the game was taken away from me and given to another player.
as for bad dice - I couldn't care less. that's not the issue. the issue is:
he didn't need to roll me below red to realize he has bad dice & won't have a chance.

why would I give up? so others might think I'll give them a free pass? nah nah nah.
the only reason I started this thread is to see some action so I don't have to suicide myself into thelord
in the next 10 games we'll play together. unless I don't notice it, I get even every time (and then some)

so that's my question: am I wasting my time here? I'm not interested in discussion but whether anything
will happen. cause if not, then I have a very deliberate task to do.

EDIT: is this closed? oh well, this was a productive waste of time.
tx for nothing

As I had mentioned (didn't go into much detail though), you generally need multiple instances of "suiciding" or "game throwing" to get any kind of punishment, which would probably only be a warning. This wasn't a case of him doing this to spite you. He tried his best to win this game.

Now I personally have never agreed with the excuse "I did it to lose less points". But I know examples where I'd use it.

Also, I'm 94.36% sure you were being sarcastic about it, but don't join 10 games with him just to suicide into him. That will get you in trouble.