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enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:46 pm
by Nucker
Accused:

[player] enzo3011900
and [player] simon down


The accused are suspected of:

Being Multi
Or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Comments:

In both of the below games the players have eliminated high rank players, in itself unlikely in fair play. The eliminations have seemed far to coordinated and sudden given the high ranks troop numbers.
Additionally the speed of play indicates collusion of some sort.
I don't usually report suspected cheating but deliberately targeting ranked players is never fun.




Game number(s): 15853992 and 15888372

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:10 pm
by MagnusGreeol
- I did a bit of research on these two, On both their 1st war page I only see those two games. Don't suspect multi the way they bicker back and forth with each other , unless multiple sychsofrantic personalities are at play, and SD is kinda out to because these two can barely get along in chat as far as I see. Not so much were high ranked players "targeted", as these 4 player standards are beady eyed for someone to die. Not enough games together for multi or SD, and game chat suggests they don't even like each other?

~Italian Stallion noir ")

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:56 pm
by WingCmdr Ginkapo
Nucker wrote:deliberately targeting ranked players is never fun.


But very much advised. High ranking players target low ranking players as they dont want to lose too many points. Its only fair that the reverse is done.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:34 am
by iAmCaffeine
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Nucker wrote:deliberately targeting ranked players is never fun.


But very much advised. High ranking players target low ranking players as they dont want to lose too many points. Its only fair that the reverse is done.


Proof please? I've never seen a case based on that, but it's much more common for lower ranks to target those who're higher in Terminator games. A typical higher rank will make whatever play is best, not just target those ranked lower.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:43 am
by eddie2
Cant link on phone. The case you want is wiseviking. He used to suicide lower ranks when he started to lose the game.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:45 am
by iAmCaffeine
eddie2 wrote:Cant link on phone. The case you want is wiseviking. He used to suicide lower ranks when he started to lose the game.


I did a search for WiseViking and only found reports about being a possible multi, deadbeating and holding hostage.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:34 am
by clangfield
Nucker wrote:Accused:

enzo3011900
and simon down


The accused are suspected of:

Being Multi
Or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Comments:

In both of the below games the players have eliminated high rank players, in itself unlikely in fair play. The eliminations have seemed far to coordinated and sudden given the high ranks troop numbers.
Additionally the speed of play indicates collusion of some sort.
I don't usually report suspected cheating but deliberately targeting ranked players is never fun.




Game number(s): Game 15853992 and Game 15888372


Links fixed.
Low ranks, but I would say enough experience (400+ games) to beat a high ranked player.
Curious that the flags say UK but one turn of phrase suggests not.
I would say that giving extra consideration to those at the other end of the ranking scale is sensible strategy. Maximising your gains and minimising your losses is what it's all about,

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:22 am
by Nucker
Fair enough. I was probably being paranoid after a series of low rank take downs.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:36 pm
by Coler
iAmCaffeine wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Nucker wrote:deliberately targeting ranked players is never fun.


But very much advised. High ranking players target low ranking players as they dont want to lose too many points. Its only fair that the reverse is done.


Proof please? I've never seen a case based on that, but it's much more common for lower ranks to target those who're higher in Terminator games. A typical higher rank will make whatever play is best, not just target those ranked lower.


I've definitely been unmeritoriously whacked by a losing higher rank with no prospect of making a winning play but with the clear intention of giving the game to a player ranked higher than me.

Rate, Foe, move on has been my approach.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:33 pm
by eddie2
Yep but when a player does it regular and you can proove it, then you have intentional throwing.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:25 pm
by TeeGee
CLEARED of multiple accounts

Am still looking into secret diplomacy, but due to lack of games together and lack of any other evidence t base any form of collusion, I don't have a great deal to go on. To me it looks like they employ a very similar style of play, but there is nothing illegal in that.
Unless someone can give me something soon, I will close this.

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:44 pm
by MagnusGreeol
- Shut it down TG, Strike it off the board. BTW, You do a hell of a job !! ")

MG-

Re: enzo3011900 and simon down[TG]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:50 pm
by TeeGee
Thanks MG

With no further evidence I am closing this