king achilles wrote:Usually, when one "suicides" in a round limit game, or in any other games for that matter, it could be one of the following:
A) sacrifice what you have to make sure the highest ranked player wins (thus losing less points),
or
B) Suicide into whoever you don't like the most.
In which cases, I do not consent any of them as they are both unfair and inconsiderate. The later part is more spiteful and biased and hopefully, are isolated cases. Don't get any high expectations from someone who doesn't like you or have a personal feud with. Whatever he does, you would think something malicious out of it, and this goes with that person's personal view of you as well. You may have a point in looking at his attack as somewhat personal and he intended to have you lose your advantage in the game. On the other hand, as an opponent, this is what opponents do, to try defeat you or not let you get too strong and walk off with the game, and it was barely just half of this round limit game.
After discussing this with the other hunters, I will take this as more of a personal feud as based from your posts here, you two have a history of games together and they ended up in a not-so-good outcome between the two of you right now. We would need more obvious actions of game throwing or we will open the floodgates of people accusing anyone who attacks them when they think they have a big advantage in a game.
On the final round of the game i had the highest troop count and he suicided into me, throwing the game to a random player. Thank you for your time. Let me know soon if you plan on doing nothing so that i can figure out how to get the f*ck out of this tournament so i don't waste another month on a game to have some ass-hat suicide on final turn...
Noone else in this tournament would do that because its so obviously wrong and punishable in any normal gaming community...
P.S. I pay fucking money to play on your gaming site...
P.P.S. I work very hard at being a heel and coming on the forums to get some cheap nuclear heat, but you're going to turn me baby-face if you keep letting this glorified jobber put me over with these dusty finishes...
Re: "Great"Ollie...
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:51 pm
by king achilles
What about the other games that you also have with him in this tournament? Was/is he specifically targeting you?
but no in those games we are nowhere near each other... and in the game in question we were nowhere near each other until the final round when he came across the map and attacked me...
2 games, both of which he saw he could not win and i could...
twice suicide...
your question here is insane
so you're saying "if he doesn't suicide in the other games then its nothing out of the ordinary"
jesus fucking...
he's suiciding when i'm going to fucking win you piece of shit. god damn can i get someone else to look at this besides you?
Re: "Great"Ollie...
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:04 pm
by KraphtOne
king achilles wrote:What about the other games that you also have with him in this tournament? Was/is he specifically targeting you?
those are in round four and are sequential games... but you're basically telling me "deadbeat, because if you're winning its ok if he suicides to make sure you don't"
This Game 15743874 i had a hammerlock on, i had +2 bonus and more troops than everyone... but guess what, i can wait another month to get suicided into or i can try to swat the fly and hope for a miracle...
next question
Re: "Great"Ollie...
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:06 pm
by king achilles
Was there another game where he attacked the game leader (besides you) to "even the odds out'"?
Re: "Great"Ollie...
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:10 pm
by KraphtOne
king achilles wrote:Was there another game where he attacked the game leader (besides you) to "even the odds out'"?
no. because nobody does that bullshit
next question
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:56 am
by iAmCaffeine
It does seem that GO gets some kind of special treatment around here. Wasn't his premium reinstated after the funkeymonkeyman case? Who gets that kind of privilege? Actually, how is that account still a registered user? Assuming GO is innocent in both the Waterman and funkey cases, are the membership not allowed some kind of explanation so that GO isn't constantly labelled as a cheat?
I don't have a side in this conflict as I don't particularly like either party involved, but it does look like there is a recurring theme here. Also, KA's questions seem totally irrelevant to the situation at hand. Since when did there have to be repetition of intentionally throwing games?
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:05 am
by Shannon Apple
Can these two not be blocked from playing in the same games with each other? It seems to me like no matter what either of them do from now on, it's going to be seen as an attack on the other, even if it's a legitimate move. I mean, I don't play multiplayer single settings much anymore because the tactics he is complaining about happened all the time from people that I didn't even know. I dunno if GO is guilty of doing it deliberately or not, but people do make stupid moves, and you can't complain everytime someone does something dumb.
Calling the person looking into this a "piece of shit" doesn't really help your case. You could try being a little less confrontational. >.>
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:43 am
by KraphtOne
Shannon Apple wrote:You could try being a little less confrontational. >.>
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Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:44 am
by btown80
Krapht, what Ollie is doing may not be fair to you, but saying he can't attack you because you are going to win is a little ridiculous. On top of that, you continue to sound like a little whiny bitch with your constant complaining. Grow a fucking pair and move on like an adult. Just a game, get over it.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:53 am
by georgizhukov
Actually, the creator of this tournament should be perma-banned. The settings are impossible to not suicide. Any attack is a suicide on all of these games. What a punishment for us all that joined this tournament thinking it would be a "freestyle" escalating tournament and it turns out as a nuclear and zombie dominated tournament. We all got into the tournament playing escalating games. What a joke.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:09 pm
by Great-Ollie
georgizhukov wrote:Actually, the creator of this tournament should be perma-banned. The settings are impossible to not suicide. Any attack is a suicide on all of these games. What a punishment for us all that joined this tournament thinking it would be a "freestyle" escalating tournament and it turns out as a nuclear and zombie dominated tournament. We all got into the tournament playing escalating games. What a joke.
Totally agree here Goerge. This is the worst tournament i have ever been a part of. The strategy is to find a card you own and deploy without attacking for 50 rounds, and do not attack anyone or it is considered suicide! What a joke complaint yet again by Kraphtone. Game 15743874 Since he has filed this he has proceeded to do the exact same to me in this game. He took a 93 stack through 25 neutral and my 86 stack. He justifies it in this thread which is suck a joke. So it is ok for him to do it, but when i attack him he files a report lol. Done with this joke thread again. Good-bye.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:28 pm
by Great-Ollie
iAmCaffeine wrote:It does seem that GO gets some kind of special treatment around here. Wasn't his premium reinstated after the funkeymonkeyman case? Who gets that kind of privilege? Actually, how is that account still a registered user? Assuming GO is innocent in both the Waterman and funkey cases, are the membership not allowed some kind of explanation so that GO isn't constantly labelled as a cheat?
I don't have a side in this conflict as I don't particularly like either party involved, but it does look like there is a recurring theme here. Also, KA's questions seem totally irrelevant to the situation at hand. Since when did there have to be repetition of intentionally throwing games?
But, I am special iAmCaffeine. CC cannot handle the truth behind Great-Ollie. The man, the myth, the legend! As for all the cheating i apparently do, I will keep everyone guessing lol.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:58 pm
by Serbia
georgizhukov wrote:Actually, the creator of this tournament should be perma-banned. The settings are impossible to not suicide. Any attack is a suicide on all of these games. What a punishment for us all that joined this tournament thinking it would be a "freestyle" escalating tournament and it turns out as a nuclear and zombie dominated tournament. We all got into the tournament playing escalating games. What a joke.
What do you know, another auto-tournament that participants are complaining about. Auto-tourneys are what they are; and they are shit.
Bollocks.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:41 am
by KraphtOne
He knows what he's doing. You know what he's doing. There's no strategy here. This is now 3 games (including the one that I just had to waste troops to kill him and hope that my +60 over the next rounds still comes out on top) that I've had a good strategy and would have won (you can debate the one from the last c&a but I'm telling you that I would have won it and based on what you can see from how I'm doing in the others I'm right) where he is suiciding to intentionally keep me personally from winning for no gain of his own. The current leader in the tournament is 113... Ask him what he thinks is happening here and if he thinks he'd be winning if someone wasn't intentionally throwing the game... He's a good player and a stand up dude from what I've seen with no ties to GO (like Georgy for some reason has)... Ask him what he thinks the outcomes would have been if this dude hadn't broken YOUR FUCKING RULE and intentionally thrown the game(s)...
And i also would like to thank the marks that are still letting me get cheap heat by blasting KA You make this all worth while
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:23 am
by WingCmdr Ginkapo
Krapht you yourself have stated that Great Ollie's actions took him from a position where he could not win, to a position where he could not win.
In what logical construct is that throwing anything? Intentions dont even matter when he is not giving up a winning position.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:26 am
by DJPatrick
KraftyOne doesn't like you and wants you dead? he is not alone...it's a war game and the aim is to kill pps...some deserve it more than others and if they swtick their head up in a position to be hacked off then so be it...I play games with people I KNOW will try to kill me at all costs to themselves...so be it...I just play with that in mind and don't fucking whine about it as if it's something that has never happenned to anyone else, ever...suck it up!
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:21 am
by KraphtOne
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Krapht you yourself have stated that Great Ollie's actions took him from a position where he could not win, to a position where he could not win.
In what logical construct is that throwing anything? Intentions dont even matter when he is not giving up a winning position.
You have 4x as many forum posts as games played, thank you for your input on the matter.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:28 am
by KraphtOne
DJPatrick wrote:KraftyOne doesn't like you and wants you dead? he is not alone...it's a war game and the aim is to kill pps...some deserve it more than others and if they swtick their head up in a position to be hacked off then so be it...I play games with people I KNOW will try to kill me at all costs to themselves...so be it...I just play with that in mind and don't fucking whine about it as if it's something that has never happenned to anyone else, ever...suck it up!
In 7 years:
You have never played these settings
You have never won a game that went 30 rounds
You have never won a tournament
You have never had a score over 2100
You have won less than a third of your games
You have aged to 101 years old...
Thank you for your input on the matter
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:24 pm
by owenshooter
KraphtOne wrote:This fucking rule right here, Bra...
i think he just dropped the mic...-Jésus noir
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:37 pm
by KraphtOne
owenshooter wrote:
KraphtOne wrote:This fucking rule right here, Bra...
i think he just dropped the mic...-Jésus noir
I been dropping it and pickin it back up and droppin it again.
KA has a fun job, take assault from the Kman and then have to decide on something that he knows is wrong but knows it will be tricky how to word any infraction to not open floodgates. doubly difficult for someone that couldn't spell risk if you spotted him the r and the k...
How many c&a threads have we done together? Gotta be over 100. I think you're a glutton for my heelness
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:17 pm
by owenshooter
KraphtOne wrote:How many c&a threads have we done together? Gotta be over 100. I think you're a glutton for my heelness
aaaaaand, may i be the one to point out that you have NEVER, BEEN, WRONG!!!! the black jesus has turned disciple...-Jésus noir
me and Krapht, spotting multis
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:35 am
by eddie2
Lol this is funny,reminds me of beating a dead horse, something I used to-do. But seriously kraft he has asked questions to get abuse from you instead of a simple response. I am guessing you haven't followed tourney rules. Any infractions of rules in tourneys need to be reported firstly to the to then tourney mods, if no resolve from this then a c and a. King a could of closed this the min it was opened but instead asked you to provide more evidence.
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:41 am
by Endgame422
I was in this game and K1 deserved the win. Sure K1 is being a dick about it(as per usual) but honestly ollie had no chance of winning the game and as far as im concerned ollie intentionally hit K1 just to make sure K1 did not win. I know this wont change KAs decision,but i wanted to put it out there as im an objective 3rd party witness.(i was going to lose either way)
Re: "Great"Ollie... [ka]
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:48 pm
by Coler
Jeesus H I wish I would have gotten the points from every game I so-called 'deserved' to win.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:58 pm
CC cannot handle the truth behind Great-Ollie. The man, the myth, the legend! As for all the cheating i apparently do, I will keep everyone guessing lol.
You make this all worth while