uncgopher / Adman85 - Secret Diplomacy

by **owenshooter** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:46 am

Accused: uncgopher, Adman85

The accused are suspected of: Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s): Game 15247301

Comments: secret diplomacy was posted on Adman85's wall... all chat regarding the game/game play must be posted in open chat (aside from stuff like, "your turn!").
anyway, find it interesting that one of these users accused people of secret diplomacy without any evidence, while there is clear evidence of secret diplomacy on his wall. Adman85 responded in game chat to the diplomacy on his wall:

2015-02-14 13:39:20 - Adman85: just using uzbekistan as an easy card bonus for the moment ungopher

so, moving from the south to the north, Adman let him know he was staying in uzbek for the moment, to get cards... that shows he was not moving into europe, responding to the secret diplomacy that was posted on his wall... and people in the game have no idea what is going on, as the other half of the conversation was on Adman's wall.

the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

by **Adman85** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:51 am

This is what I get for reporting suspected cheaters? Investigated?

That is quite ironic as that is all I wanted the admins to do for the people I reported (and they didn't).

Again, I did not post that on my own wall, and I did not comply with his suggestions, considering he posted it while we had an in game chat alliance I didn't think much of it. But if that is what it takes, and if this is how the community responds to actual reports, then I am in the wrong place it seems.

by **owenshooter** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:53 am

Adman85 wrote:This is what I get for reporting suspected cheaters? Investigated?

That is quite ironic as that is all I wanted the admins to do for the people I reported (and they didn't).

Again, I did not post that on my own wall, and I did not comply with his suggestions, considering he posted it while we had an in game chat alliance I didn't think much of it. But if that is what it takes, and if this is how the community responds to actual reports, then I am in the wrong place it seems.

if you don't report it, you are complicit... also, you responded in game chat, by stating that you were using a portion of the map he mentioned as an easy card:

2015-02-14 13:39:20 - Adman85: just using uzbekistan as an easy card bonus for the moment ungopher

so, moving from the south to the north, you let him know you were staying in uzbek for the moment, to get cards... that shows you are not moving into europe... responding to his secret diplomacy that was posted on your wall... sorry, you are involved in secret diplomacy... do the others in chat know what you two are discussing? no. why? because the other half of the conversation is on your wall. secret. di. plomacy. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

by **phildeez** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:58 am

if you don't report it, you are complicit

This part cannot be correct unless the site rules include a duty to report.

by **Adman85** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:59 am

Uzbekistan is in the middle east, not europe, but sure, you believe what you want.

by **owenshooter** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:20 am

Adman85 wrote:Uzbekistan is in the middle east, not europe, but sure, you believe what you want.

it shows you were stopping in your march from the south to the north, in uzbekistan, for the moment. regardless, you responded to his secret diplomacy and people in the game were none the wiser as to what you two had discussed. don't you think an advantage was gained by this for the two of you? i think it is clear...-Jésus noir

by **Adman85** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:31 am

You think it is clear, so disciplinary action is based on what you think?

I told uncgopher I was hitting uzbekistan because we are in game allies and I didnt want him to think I was breaking our truce (in game chat truce BTW), not because of some reason you make up from an outside perspective.

But I have told you this twice already and you still make such a claim, it's too bad lying about other player in C&A isnt part of disciplinary measures.

by **owenshooter** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:38 am

let me make this clearer for you:

secret diplomacy posted on your wall. FACT
you respond to secret diplomacy in game chat, without notifying others of what was said on your wall. FACT
you have conducted secret diplomacy. FACT

the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-the irony of you reporting others for this infraction, does not escape me...

by **Adman85** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:49 am

owenshooter wrote:you respond to secret diplomacy in game chat, without notifying others of what was said on your wall. FACT
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SPECULATION. Not fact.

The fact you think of yourself as jesus yet go out of your way to persecute others is irony that is not lost on me.

by **owenshooter** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:02 pm

Adman85 wrote:
owenshooter wrote:you respond to secret diplomacy in game chat, without notifying others of what was said on your wall. FACT
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SPECULATION. Not fact.
The fact you think of yourself as jesus yet go out of your way to persecute others is irony that is not lost on me.

oh, how the story has changed... snaps from global chat:

Website · by **blackdragon1661** on Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:50 pm

Adman85 wrote:I told uncgopher I was hitting uzbekistan because we are in game allies and I didnt want him to think I was breaking our truce (in game chat truce BTW), not because of some reason you make up from an outside perspective.

If it is an in-game chat truce, then why take it to people's walls?