Closed Pending Nibelungo and Saki King

[Adman85]

Accused:

Nibelungo
Saki King




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

Game 15286479


Comments: Clearly working together and attempting to disguise it.

[iAmCaffeine]

Any specific details? Any other games where this might have happened? Any wall messages?

Nibelungo is stopping Saki from holding all of Europe and it's his turn now, see what he does.

[Adman85]

What details are you looking for? I reported it here under the impression someone would review the entire game not just the turn where it is at now.

I also reported it as an example for any other reports made too, I am not sure I am in any other games with them, so it is impossible for me to provide more examples.

I managed to find one other game I share with Nibelungo, but Saki King is not in that game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=15248668

That game is still early days though, so probably won't be much help in any regard.

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm not anyone official, I'm just trying to help you build a case. The mods are only volunteers so the more information your provide the better.

I'd start by using game finder to check the games the two players have played together and how often they both win in those games.

[Evil Semp]

What details are you looking for? I reported it here under the impression someone would review the entire game not just the turn where it is at now.

This really looks like you are throwing poop on the wall and hoping that some of it sticks. Giving details about why you think they are working together, when they started and the actions taken to make you believe they are working together help the mods. If you won't take the time to give some details why should the mods take the time to investigate your accusation? Help them out some.

[sniffie]

I follow up on Evil Semp, if you cannot give me more details about the how and why I'll close this.

sniff

[Adman85]

What details are you looking for? I reported it here under the impression someone would review the entire game not just the turn where it is at now.

This really looks like you are throwing poop on the wall and hoping that some of it sticks.

Right, because I do that so often that it must be true? Being that this is my first report in in some 500 games.....

In game green made an excuse for why he targeted me saying "see why I had to go thru u?" insinuating he went through me to get red, when he had plenty of other locations to hit him from directly, plus he used most of those troops fighting through me to kill a few of reds troops, making no impact on red but stopping me from targeting red entirely, then he seemed to be working in tandem with red, even though they have no in game alliance.

Even the other guy in game with me found this highly suspiscious, so... Being a player in this game, suspecting another of cheating I reported it.

But then again this is all written in the in game chat, if you aren't going to bother even slightly looking into the accusation why would some hearsay from me change your mind?

Is it my job to investigate and drum up reasoning for bans and the like? Or am I a player making a report?

[Adman85]

I'd start by using game finder to check the games the two players have played together and how often they both win in those games.

So the onus is on me to investigate suspected cheating players? Oh K

I figured being a paying customer of this game that the moderators would moderate, but instead the players have to do that for them?

Remind me not to bother reporting suspected cheaters in the future, it's pretty obvious nobody cares.

[owenshooter]

I'd start by using game finder to check the games the two players have played together and how often they both win in those games.

So the onus is on me to investigate suspected cheating players? Oh K

I figured being a paying customer of this game that the moderators would moderate, but instead the players have to do that for them?

Remind me not to bother reporting suspected cheaters in the future, it's pretty obvious nobody cares.

no, you need to put forth an actual case of why you think they are doing what you accused them off... you are throwing a pile of crap against the wall and hoping something is going to stick... go read some past reports where people were busted... if people even put up a bit of info, users will continue to dig and pull out more stuff, then mods get involved, taking the original info and the additional info and move forward... to just put up two names, they aren't going to waste their time...-Jésus noir

[owenshooter]

even better, the OP has secret diplomacy on his own wall... HA!!!

[Adman85]

Considering I didn't write that on my wall, it appears you are just flinging poop in an attempt to get something to stick.

Please provide further evidence to support your claim, the admins don't waste their time investigating poopflinging owen.

[owenshooter]

Considering I didn't write that on my wall, it appears you are just flinging poop in an attempt to get something to stick.

Please provide further evidence to support your claim, the admins don't waste their time investigating poopflinging owen.

i'm sorry i posted that in here. i did open my own report. and yes, that post on yoru wall is secret diplomacy, enough to get a warning for at least one of you.-Jn

[owenshooter]

these two users have almost 8K games on the site, combined.. one has 6700, the other almost 900... they have only played ONE game against each other... the game is not decided... they haven't done anything other than play in a way that you don't agree with. chalk this up to being a sore loser, because that is what it looks like. highly unlikely a muffin top and a single bar have been hiding this long on CC, as a multi and decide to finally play and try to win this one, oh so important game, for one of them... just unlikely.. do your research and stop making others do it for you... i found all of that out within 2 minutes of doing a quick search... the mods are volunteers.. respect their time and volunteer effort, if you want them to respect your reports... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[Adman85]

these two users have almost 8K games on the site, combined.. one has 6700, the other almost 900... they have only played ONE game against each other...

Nuff said. Clearly if they are cheating they are very bad at it, so it is more likely green just made a bad play.

[sniffie]

I'm closing this, due to lack of evidence.

sniff

[sniffie]

Closed