Warned Account Sitting [ka]

[Success]

Accused:Aussie02,crazystef,Nailsale,troy43



The accused are suspected of:Cheating/abuseing




Other: One of there team members are makeing moves for one of are team members and the moves are pointless and they are not saying who is account sitting for them.



Game number(s):15110786







Comments:Hello there CC i dont know if this is concider cheating/abuseing but it should be,one of are team members is gone and wont be comeing back...in the mean time one of there team members is makeing are guys moves and is just droping 18 stacks in pointless spots that they cant even attack from.There account sitter tankgirl99 is in the same clan as the acussed and now they arent even takeing are guys turns or saying who is account sitting on there side.Its just a really messy game and should be a wash,thanks for your time.

[betiko]

Damn it... I really had to reread this 3 times to understand what you were trying to say...
Anyways... If I understood correctly, one of your teammates is being sitted by tankgirl who happens to be "all of your opponent's clanmate" and she just drops troops with no attacks to make her clanmates win.

Yup that seems a bit fucked up if it s the case.

[owenshooter]

Damn it... I really had to reread this 3 times to understand what you were trying to say...
Anyways... If I understood correctly, one of your teammates is being sitted by tankgirl who happens to be "all of your opponent's clanmate" and she just drops troops with no attacks to make her clanmates win.

Yup that seems a bit fucked up if it s the case.

no, you got that wrong. however, it took me forever to figure out what he was saying. apparently, a member of the other team passed away, steve the mighty. and members of his clan are taking his turn. if you look in the chat, they are all posting which player in his clan is taking the turn (some of the turns). they missed one turn, due to all the confusion of this guy passing away and people in his clan trying to get it together and cover his turns (only 9 active games). i don't think one missed turn is an abuse. and in the chat, they apologize for the bad, drop, etc... they have even less of a complaint, because they have a member of the same clan on their team. it is just a weird situation. you have a member of the other team in the same clan as steve, and took his turn and steve's turn!! that is really jacked up in a big fog game!!! is it really poor form? hell, yes. if i'm playing a team fog game, i don't want someone on the other team hopping onto my side, reading my chat and seeing where everyone is and then hopping back to the other side. pretty sure this is going to be noted or warned... it is just a mess...-Jésus noir

"huh?"

[Major.Bossman]

Accused:Aussie02,crazystef,Nailsale,troy43



The accused are suspected of:Cheating/abuseing




Other: One of there team members are makeing moves for one of are team members and the moves are pointless and they are not saying who is account sitting for them.



Game number(s):Game 15110786







Comments:Hello there CC i dont know if this is concider cheating/abuseing but it should be,one of are team members is gone and wont be comeing back...in the mean time one of there team members is makeing are guys moves and is just droping 18 stacks in pointless spots that they cant even attack from.There account sitter tankgirl99 is in the same clan as the acussed and now they arent even takeing are guys turns or saying who is account sitting on there side.Its just a really messy game and should be a wash,thanks for your time.

Ok fixed the links. After reading this and the game's chat I think I understand what is going on, but it would appear that your anger is more addressed to tankgirl99, who I guess is account sitting after Steve The Mighty died. I do agree something is not right in this game but it is just a mess. The game's chat is even worse than the complaint.

[Nailsale]

if CC can check our private emails they will see that i emailed Troy43 and crazystef to no longer chat in game because there were clan members taking turns for the deceased player and our player (i guess he was moving or something). to say we are cheating is crazy. we are trying to figure out who is taking who's turn too.

Should I be blamed for taking my turn? I simply took my turns as well as Troy43. In fact for several turns i have been feeding my troops to Pink (aussie02) just to keep him alive. CC should be able to read all the team chat and if they can read the PMs they will see that we (crazystef, Nailsale, Troy43) have nothing to do with the player changes. I dont think Aussie02 or Tankgirl or the other two or three players that were filling in tried to cheat either...i think there was confusion in the RET clan trying to fill in. I was concerned about on player taking turns for both sides thus the PMs going forward.

I think that team 1 has been playing poorly (they were getting beat before this started) and they don't like getting beat by some cooks (as tommygun's unintelligible rant indicates).

[Major.Bossman]

Ok so let me see what is what in this clusterfuck. From what I can tell someone is account sitting for Aussie02 for some undisclosed reason. Steve died and his fellow clan members were account sitting for him. The people who are account sitting for Aussie02 and Steve The Mighty are from the same clan (RET). At some point tankgirl99 was sitting on both accounts, which caused a problem with team 1 (riverj, Success, tommygun64, Steve The Mighty). Success and tommygun64 saw this as cheating or something that warranted a report on this forum. However riverj is also a member of the same clan which for sake of argument could have taken over for steve. Unless there is some secret discussion that took place between the members of team 2 (the players accused) where team 1's strategy was revealed or intentional sabotage was planned, this does not appear to be a case of cheating. It looks like a giant mismanagement on the part of the RET clan over what to do with Steve The Mighty's ongoing games.
It might be necessary for players to not take part in account sitting for two or more players in a game if those players are opponents as this creates a conflict of interest.

[Success]

Yeah sorry that it was tough to understand but you pretty much got it Major.Bossman,just trying to keep it honest.As for Nailsale in regards to your last sentence that we were getting beat before this all started is a lie,you guys were going to lose that game untill the cheating/abuseing started or mismanagement or what ever else you want to call it lol....no doubt about that.

[owenshooter]

Yeah sorry that it was tough to understand but you pretty much got it Major.Bossman,just trying to keep it honest.As for Nailsale in regards to your last sentence that we were getting beat before this all started is a lie,you guys were going to lose that game untill the cheating/abuseing started or mismanagement or what ever else you want to call it lol....no doubt about that.

wait... so who is account sitting for Success now? how did he all of a sudden become able to write coherent sentences? how did he get the above post from the one below?

Comments:Hello there CC i dont know if this is concider cheating/abuseing but it should be,one of are team members is gone and wont be comeing back...in the mean time one of there team members is makeing are guys moves and is just droping 18 stacks in pointless spots that they cant even attack from.There account sitter tankgirl99 is in the same clan as the acussed and now they arent even takeing are guys turns or saying who is account sitting on there side.Its just a really messy game and should be a wash,thanks for your time.

clearly, there is something even more fishy with this!!! this entire report is a cluster... good luck, team CC...-Jn

[Success]

HAHA....nobody is account sitting for me,if you cant understand what i was trying to say then read it again,or go back to school and get some english lessens...

[owenshooter]

HAHA....nobody is account sitting for me,if you cant understand what i was trying to say then read it again,or go back to school and get some english lessens...

there is nothing clear about your original post... i don't want to admit how long it took me to decipher your rosetta stone last night, while sippin' on some adult beverages... anyway, this is a really weird situation and i can't wait to see how it is resolved... the most interesting aspects to me are the death, the fog game, and clan members on both teams popping back and forth and having full knowledge of the plans/placements on the map, etc... it is a cluster...-Jn

[tommygun64]

so read the log again owen u got that wrong we had this game sewn up until steves demur any1 read the log we were far ahead and i was cutting them down aussie and nailsale i even posted that i was. What got me was I asked that no-one take steves go and to let him go, let him deadbeat but no that didnt happen.
Never mind tankgirl playing for two teams ?? a ghost would appear take steves go NOT talk to us and basically do nothing with the troops as success has said, and we never/didnt know who this ghost is because they never gave/left a name So the game should be made void and everyones happy then and let steve rest in peace

[owenshooter]

so read the log again owen u got that wrong we had this game sewn up until steves demur any1 read the log we were far ahead and i was cutting them down aussie and nailsale i even posted that i was. What got me was I asked that no-one take steves go and to let him go, let him deadbeat but no that didnt happen.
Never mind tankgirl playing for two teams ?? a ghost would appear take steves go NOT talk to us and basically do nothing with the troops as success has said, and we never/didnt know who this ghost is because they never gave/left a name So the game should be made void and everyones happy then and let steve rest in peace

T.G., i will never understand what is fully going on... i just know it is WHACK!! however, there is no way they are going to make this the first "void" game in CC history... good luck with that... odd and frustrating situation and it is made worse by the passing of a player... sigh... again, good luck sorting this out, but there is no way this game is made "a wash"... the black jesus is beyond confused...-Jn

[Success]

There's a first time for everything Owen.

[owenshooter]

There's a first time for everything Owen.

on this site, nothing shocks me anymore... nothing...-Jn

[betiko]

HAHA....nobody is account sitting for me,if you cant understand what i was trying to say then read it again,or go back to school and get some english lessens...

"Lessons"
Although I m amazed by your progress. One day ago, you seemed to be writing words for the first time and today you are an understandable chap. Were you drunk??

[Success]

''i'm''
Do you not see the name of the clan i'm in?
Take a guess genius.

[Edric Wolfswift]

go back to school and get some english lessens...

*English lessons

http://www.grammarbook.com/

[Nailsale]

i am honored to be a part of CC history in the making...lol.

Team 1, we are not going to agree on who was winning before all this started...we were rolling and had good things lined up before all this went down. granted i mowed into an easy yellow target for one or two turns before i even realized what was going on but Troy 43 was already running with it. if i did not have to keep feeding Aussie troops i would have been further along (no disrespect Aussie).

this is funny. ya just gotta have fun with it. cheating - no. mismanaged...yeah, i would say so.

i do not think it is right that someone else takes turns for an absent player, clan or no clan. that does leave the door wide open for abuse. I do not think that RET attempted to do anything wrong here as someone previously posted. just a mess up. and, as also noted, team 1 has (had) two members from the same clan. for Tommygun and Success to accuse team 2 of cheating is nothing but soap opera drama.

[The_Samurai]

Hi everyone, I'm the main active leader of Retribution. I don't really have the time to go through these discussions. What I can say is that some of us, Retribution members, had numerous discussions about what we should do regarding Steve the Mighty's remaining games, as we wanted to honor him in some way, without being unfair towards his opponents. I don't think we were really prepared for this situation. We knew that Steve had lung problems, but didn't realise the severity of his conditions. I suggested that we sit for him in our active clan games, but that we don't sit all his other games, including tourneys. That doesn't mean that everyone agreed with my suggestions though. tankgirl99 is a fair player who I have full confidence in, and I very much doubt that she would have purposefully cheated in the mentioned game.

Cheers,
fred

[tankgirl99]

As is written in the log this was a mistake i made which I held my hands up to. I was sitting both players at the time, obviously Steve died, and Aussie was moving house. Unfortunate timing but all was pre arranged.

I didn't cover steves first moves on that game, I don't know who did. I came in to find it a mess. When I was going through Aussies turns I just didn't realise I had taken a turn for the other team, if I had I wouldn't have taken the turn. I read the notes and yes, Aussie was in a bad position. I cant remember any of the other notes and I certainly wouldn't try to abuse my knowledge.

In chat I explained my error, tommygun said fine, can't remember if team 2 said anything. I also said I would make sure I didn't take the turns for Aussie as I know he has other sitters also. I also asked team 1 to let me know when Steve's turn was due as I wasn't necessarily logging in every day.

I took a couple more turns for Steve reading the instructions left and next thing I know there's a massive rant left by tommygun saying not to bother just deadbeat so I didn't play anymore turns.

Yes, I made a mistake, but all was explained and no one at the time made much of a complaint.

[owenshooter]

Hi everyone, I'm the main active leader of Retribution. I don't really have the time to go through these discussions.

right there, i stopped reading... sad that i care more about your clan than you do... i vote they get a new leader that has time for these sorts of situations...-Jésus noir

[tommygun64]

we are teammates in another game and is not at fault here. The blame lays with the way it was all handled. succes and I dont like being taken for fools and We dont want any1 put out for cheating The games not worth that . I thought CC could void the game but now know it cant so lets finish this Ramraid and get it over Well said successs see u at the game

[DJPatrick]

Stumbled across this randomly and thort...Steve the Mighty??? ...one of my first opponents back in 08...about 80 games mainly v early in our "careers" (ed:=sic) while it's good in a way that his Clan tried to keep his games going,,,wtf...the man died (reportedly) ...Death creates confusion amongst immediate family, God(Ed:sic) only knows what it creates amongst e-friends on a gaming site. "Retire" the game with NIL statistics for or against...I knowq some have posted that CC says it can't but that is bullshit...it is only a few lines of code (my 16 year old daughter says it would be easy enough...one of my ex-wifes who is a HTML guru says 30 seconds)...is the problem about precedent? Given that CC's current owners have takien a lot of flak aabout where they are seen as moving the site it would be brand positive to create the precedent and show its not just abpout the bucks...For f*ck sake guys (and Gals) it's a game...a bloody good one but hey?

[The_Samurai]

I love how some players have such a big mouth, but no brain. The situation was already resolved in the game chat. So get a life, Mr owen. Having to sign "Jésus noir" ... haha ... really don't have one apparently !

Hi everyone, I'm the main active leader of Retribution. I don't really have the time to go through these discussions.

right there, i stopped reading... sad that i care more about your clan than you do... i vote they get a new leader that has time for these sorts of situations...-Jésus noir

[owenshooter]

I love how some players have such a big mouth, but no brain. The situation was already resolved in the game chat. So get a life, Mr owen. Having to sign "Jésus noir" ... haha ... really don't have one apparently !

Hi everyone, I'm the main active leader of Retribution. I don't really have the time to go through these discussions.

right there, i stopped reading... sad that i care more about your clan than you do... i vote they get a new leader that has time for these sorts of situations...-Jésus noir

and as a leader of a clan you further the discourse by attempting to insult and flame members that actually took time out of their days to try and discern what was going on? you honor your dead clan member so well with your flippant and lackadaisical attitude. i'd vote for a new clan leader if you led my clan... you are an embarrassment... but go on, continue to show your CC ignorance with your half cocked attempted insults... insults are easy to hurl (i.e.-i know you are south african, and i'm sorry, but jesus was black... deal with it... and guess what? he still won't play sun city... so put on your sugar man records and dream back to your glory days of apartheid), but they have no place in this forum... and it does not matter what was resolved in the game chat, it was brought into C&A and they will have the final say. i'm sure there will some warnings issued, especially to your clan members who were playing on both teams in a fog game and one team is declaring they had secured victory before said clan members cheated. so, continue your attempted insults, it does not change this situation, just exposes you for the poor leader you are....-Jésus noir