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schelanchery & doyley [DCR]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:42 am
by Theldin
Accused:

schelanchery
doyley


The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
and/or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 13722785
Game 13722796
Game 13722794
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:
These 2 players appear to have a secret diplomacy or be multis. In the 3 games listed they have left undefended borders and not attacked each other, not attacked each other except for cards/region bonuses after clearing all but 1 troop out. In the 1st game listed, after both non-stop attacked me, doyley attacked neutrals to kill off troops, so the other could end the game more quickly. They joined CC within 3 days of each other just over 1 year ago. A search of games with both players finds 194 results.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:50 pm
by Symmetry
Looks a bit suss to me. Here's Doyley trying to sign up both accounts for a tournament.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=186760&p=4124511#p4124511

doyley wrote:doyley & schelanchery if you have any spare spots

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:38 pm
by iAmCaffeine
Symmetry wrote:Looks a bit suss to me. Here's Doyley trying to sign up both accounts for a tournament.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=186760&p=4124511#p4124511

doyley wrote:doyley & schelanchery if you have any spare spots


It was a doubles tournament.. :lol:

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:47 pm
by Symmetry
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Looks a bit suss to me. Here's Doyley trying to sign up both accounts for a tournament.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=186760&p=4124511#p4124511

doyley wrote:doyley & schelanchery if you have any spare spots


It was a doubles tournament.. :lol:


Indeed, and I didn't suggest that it wasn't. It does indicate that they speak as one and really shouldn't be playing games as if they are independent accounts.

Generally I'd go with the standard ruling on this- they should play as a team if they want to be in the same game together, not as if they are individuals.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:14 pm
by iAmCaffeine
Symmetry wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Looks a bit suss to me. Here's Doyley trying to sign up both accounts for a tournament.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=186760&p=4124511#p4124511

doyley wrote:doyley & schelanchery if you have any spare spots


It was a doubles tournament.. :lol:


Indeed, and I didn't suggest that it wasn't. It does indicate that they speak as one and really shouldn't be playing games as if they are independent accounts.

Generally I'd go with the standard ruling on this- they should play as a team if they want to be in the same game together, not as if they are individuals.


It doesn't indicate that they speak as one at all. It is common practice for one player to sign an entire team up themselves, whether it's doubles, triples or quads. I do it frequently and have never seen an organised team post separately to join a tournament.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:26 pm
by Symmetry
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Looks a bit suss to me. Here's Doyley trying to sign up both accounts for a tournament.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=186760&p=4124511#p4124511

doyley wrote:doyley & schelanchery if you have any spare spots


It was a doubles tournament.. :lol:


Indeed, and I didn't suggest that it wasn't. It does indicate that they speak as one and really shouldn't be playing games as if they are independent accounts.

Generally I'd go with the standard ruling on this- they should play as a team if they want to be in the same game together, not as if they are individuals.


It doesn't indicate that they speak as one at all. It is common practice for one player to sign an entire team up themselves, whether it's doubles, triples or quads. I do it frequently and have never seen an organised team post separately to join a tournament.


Fair enough, though I would say that signing up another account, specifically the account being accused of secretly working with, is an indicator that they work together.

If you feel I was wrong to highlight the connection between the accounts accused of secret diplomacy in a thread about these accounts being linked, and indeed wish that said diplomatic link remain secret and un-highlighted, let me know.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:28 pm
by iAmCaffeine
Symmetry wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Looks a bit suss to me. Here's Doyley trying to sign up both accounts for a tournament.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=710&t=186760&p=4124511#p4124511

doyley wrote:doyley & schelanchery if you have any spare spots


It was a doubles tournament.. :lol:


Indeed, and I didn't suggest that it wasn't. It does indicate that they speak as one and really shouldn't be playing games as if they are independent accounts.

Generally I'd go with the standard ruling on this- they should play as a team if they want to be in the same game together, not as if they are individuals.


It doesn't indicate that they speak as one at all. It is common practice for one player to sign an entire team up themselves, whether it's doubles, triples or quads. I do it frequently and have never seen an organised team post separately to join a tournament.


Fair enough, though I would say that signing up another account, specifically the account being accused of secretly working with, is an indicator that they work together.

If you feel I was wrong to highlight the connection between the accounts accused of secret diplomacy in a thread about these accounts being linked, and indeed wish that said diplomatic link remain secret and un-highlighted, let me know.


Yes, you're wrong. There may well be secret diplomacy or whatever going on here, but you're tournament link is irrelevant.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:39 pm
by Symmetry
While I'm not entirely clear on why you think highlighting a link between two accounts accused of having a secret link should be a secret in a thread about them being linked secretly, I nevertheless accord you all the respect the evidence and well thought-out arguments that you have presented you deserve.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:01 pm
by iAmCaffeine
Trolls gonna troll.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:21 pm
by Symmetry
This has become pointless rather quickly, if you want to put together some evidence about the two accounts, do so. I don't feel that our conversation is constructive to the report now. If you want to troll, feel free to post a thread on the "Whose Forum Is it Anyway" board.

Are you ok with leaving the rest up to the mods?

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:41 pm
by iAmCaffeine
You can troll all you like. No, our discussion hasn't been positive or helpful in the slightest. I simply pointed out how you were mistaken and you continue to troll away like the mature human being you are. It's fine, enjoy it.

Re: schelanchery & doyley

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:53 pm
by Evil Semp
For obvious reasons this is being locked.

iAmCaffeine and Symmetry give it a rest.

Re: schelanchery & doyley [DCR]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:43 am
by deathcomesrippin
schelanchery and doyley have been Warned for Secret Diplomacy.