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Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:33 pm
by GioDuce
Accused:

courtesykiller



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis



Game number(s):

Game 13695544


Comments: I tought to open a post for him, so his story is heard. I don't know the guy, only played with his in some games.
If it is true what " his friend " is saying thats sad, also brakh's story about the wife. Things like this must get some kind of voice,
sounds like CK didn't get he chance to defend himself.
So if anyone wonna say something you can do it now.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:50 pm
by king achilles
What would be sadder is if you were led to believe what the person wants you to believe even if it's not true. He is a multi so he got busted. This is not a popularity contest or who has the most people to support anyone coming back. If you break the rule, then you answer for it.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 pm
by GioDuce
If people do get busted, yeah hurt them rigt back.

I don't want persons to cheat against me.

I just hope people don't get punished if they do not deserve it.
I Don't say this is the case !

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:06 am
by hardraada
I agree with GioDuce. Obviously we need the moderators and multihunters and I absolutely defer to your judgement and knowlege of who's doing what.

That being said, I wonder if it's not possible that a routine multicheck might not have come up with a case in which the player made a mistake - ie in letting an old (dormant?) account continue to exist (from what I can see his other account hasn't been used to play a game since 2011) ; but in which the consequences of the mistake itself are relatively harmless?

Clearly courtesykiller has got himself into a bind of his own making. I'm just wondering if it's not also clearly the case that he never intended to use his mutliple account for the purpose of cheating?

Again, I absolutely defer to your judgement and knowlege. And just to be clear, I am definately not part of a courtesykiller fanclub. If he is guilty, hang him!

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:27 am
by betiko
well it does seem like CK is a multi account to start with, got busted a first time and not quite sure what he did as i won't take for granted what he said. that account hasn't been reused to play, so why can't you explain what he did, KA? otherwise busting him 2 years after his offense for something you have already pinished him for seems like very unfair.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:29 am
by betiko
this is already moved to close??? well i guess now locking it will finish putting this case under the rug. i don't see why team cc can't give their side of the story after his acusations.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:21 pm
by judge_reinhold
[game]courtesykiller[/game] is a horrible person and I guess I'm glad he's gone, but I am curious as to why he got banned. I think that conquer club should function like a democratic society, not having its "citizens" subject to secret trials and judgments without any possibility of sharing evidence and using logic to prosecute/defend cases.

Where can we find out what he did to get executed? Where are the minutes of the meetings, the evidence for the prosecution and the defense? Where is the jury?

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:28 pm
by 40kguy
judge_reinhold wrote:[game]courtesykiller[/game] is a horrible person and I guess I'm glad he's gone, but I am curious as to why he got banned. I think that conquer club should function like a democratic society, not having its "citizens" subject to secret trials and judgments without any possibility of sharing evidence and using logic to prosecute/defend cases.

Where can we find out what he did to get executed? Where are the minutes of the meetings, the evidence for the prosecution and the defense? Where is the jury?

i asked this question before, this is the answer

"if they tell us how they busted him, than people can use the information to beat the system and create multies"

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:25 pm
by ChrisPond
betiko wrote:well it does seem like CK is a multi account to start with, got busted a first time and not quite sure what he did as i won't take for granted what he said. that account hasn't been reused to play, so why can't you explain what he did, KA? otherwise busting him 2 years after his offense for something you have already pinished him for seems like very unfair.


i was thinking the same thing. i just played the guy in a couple of poly games. it looks like his rating shows he did not make very many friends here but i was quite impressed with his game play. i looked at his old account as well...he has not used it in forever so i don't think he was currently cheating with it unless he had other accounts? i am pretty sure when i signed up i agreed i would only ever have 1 account though and i am wondering if this is the reason?

i invite anyone reading this to go to the game listed and read what was posted in game chat regarding this situation.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:26 pm
by TheForgivenOne
40kguy wrote:
judge_reinhold wrote:[game]courtesykiller[/game] is a horrible person and I guess I'm glad he's gone, but I am curious as to why he got banned. I think that conquer club should function like a democratic society, not having its "citizens" subject to secret trials and judgments without any possibility of sharing evidence and using logic to prosecute/defend cases.

Where can we find out what he did to get executed? Where are the minutes of the meetings, the evidence for the prosecution and the defense? Where is the jury?

i asked this question before, this is the answer

"if they tell us how they busted him, than people can use the information to beat the system and create multies"


This.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:43 pm
by 40kguy
I also think that we are looking over the fact that the guy had multis the first time.

He was banned the first time for multis, he could of purchased premium the for one of his first accounts, but instead he broke the rules creating another a new account and played with that one.

He did say however that he was banned after one month of purchasing premium. Maybe this is a business move by the guys upstairs to make money. Maybe they noticed near the end of his membership and waited for him to buy another year of premium before they busted him to get more money.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:49 pm
by betiko
TheForgivenOne wrote:
40kguy wrote:
judge_reinhold wrote:[game]courtesykiller[/game] is a horrible person and I guess I'm glad he's gone, but I am curious as to why he got banned. I think that conquer club should function like a democratic society, not having its "citizens" subject to secret trials and judgments without any possibility of sharing evidence and using logic to prosecute/defend cases.

Where can we find out what he did to get executed? Where are the minutes of the meetings, the evidence for the prosecution and the defense? Where is the jury?

i asked this question before, this is the answer

"if they tell us how they busted him, than people can use the information to beat the system and create multies"


This.


The question is not "how", we don t care about this, the question is "what/why".

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:52 pm
by Masli
40kguy wrote:He did say however that he was banned after one month of purchasing premium.


Saying something doesn't make it true...

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:53 pm
by 40kguy
Masli wrote:
40kguy wrote:He did say however that he was banned after one month of purchasing premium.


Saying something doesn't make it true...

Is it not true?

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:54 pm
by Masli
40kguy wrote:
Masli wrote:
40kguy wrote:He did say however that he was banned after one month of purchasing premium.


Saying something doesn't make it true...

Is it not true?


=D> =D>

betiko wrote:well it does seem like CK is a multi account to start with, got busted a first time and not quite sure what he did as i won't take for granted what he said. that account hasn't been reused to play, so why can't you explain what he did, KA? otherwise busting him 2 years after his offense for something you have already pinished him for seems like very unfair.


He wasn't punished for creating the CK account untill now betiko, so I'm not sure what you mean.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:57 pm
by betiko
Masli wrote:
betiko wrote:well it does seem like CK is a multi account to start with, got busted a first time and not quite sure what he did as i won't take for granted what he said. that account hasn't been reused to play, so why can't you explain what he did, KA? otherwise busting him 2 years after his offense for something you have already pinished him for seems like very unfair.


He wasn't punished for creating the CK account untill now betiko, so I'm not sure what you mean.


Well that s just what i didn t understand. From what he wrote he got punished 2 years ago for this getting his premium stripped and it happened again without any new "felony".

So i don t really understand what is true in his story and what is not, were there 3 accounts? He started with account 1, then moved to account 2 (CK) so the premium on account 1 got stripped, he continued on the CK account for 2 years and it only got busted today? I mean after 2 years and a steady score, also having played much more on that second account than on the first and not doing any cheating between accounts i don t really see why this needed to be done.?
Also... Why didn t this shit happen a few weeks ago?? He s beaten me on the last turn of a none terminator battle royale grrrrr! I was so pissed...

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:53 am
by betiko
so i would just like a simple answer: did this guy get premium stripped on account 1, then premium stripped on account 2 2years later for the same offense and no further cheating just because he continued on account2 and abandonned account1 ever since? if so it seems rather unfair.

Re: Courtesykiller

PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:14 pm
by Masli
he got stripped 1st time with account 1,2 and 3 (CK account didn't excist)
This case is account 4 & 5 (CK account included)
I hope you understand that we are not gonna keep discussing this in this topic. You are free to contact me by pm, from now on this topic is locked.
Happy holidays ;)