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Benclub farming [cleared]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:24 am
by xroads
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The accused are suspected of:
farming

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Benclub also got caught up in the scoreboard challenge & decided to do a little farming himself.

Basically he has a couple maps he knows well (Labyrinth, 2010 world cup), and has his own way of winning easily.

The problem starts when he starts inviting players with no experience on those maps. Once those players learn his strategy & map, he foes them so he is not a threat to his points.

Here is is response when I asked him about it and foeing me

Hi mate.

I only want to be the 1st in the scoreboard to win 2500 credits.

I know it's not cool or fairplay.

Sorry

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:39 am
by ISN2
I have played against BENCLUB and he is a blow normal player, a lot of lower ranked players have better understanding of strategies than him, so I think he doesn't deserve the rank. Foeing people after they learned the map is absolutely a cheap way of gaining points, but I don't think it's against rules. Maybe the invitations part can be looked at, I had a more clear case against King Hrepes when he invited a lot of weak players to his special games, but he got cleared ...

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:45 am
by shoop76
On defense of Ben he has been inviting high rank players to his games and a lot of players have been rejecting invites. Nothing says he can't just play certain maps. I accepted 2 of his invites and was disappointed when I sent him an invite on my map and he rejected it. I believe the way the new monthly scoreboard is set up you will see a lot of different ways people will try to get on top. Its unfairthat more deserving people really won't get a chance.

That being said I don't see any evidence that he was farming.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:04 am
by jltile1
We kicked his butt at both maps in the recent clan war. He did not foe me for beating him but instead sent me a invite to another I declined. He also played another clan mate and lost on a poly same settings and I don't think he foed them. I how ever did see in a game chat when he said that he (farmed) the top 600 ranked players and invited them to his games. The thing is if you are the top 600 and you get a invite from a general on his map why accept it, if you don't know the map or settings. Why do we have problems with people that get a stragety on a map and are good at it? Kinda cheap that he won't take invites if that is the case, but that is his choice I guess. But I see the same stuff from players sending me invites they think they are higher ranked so I need to play by there rules, no thanks. Any way I think this is silly.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:21 am
by kizkiz
as above, I got an invite, took one look at the map and settings, laughed and declined.
They were all high rankers and, i'm sure, more than capable of making the decision to play or not

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:57 am
by BENCLUB
Yes I sent an invitation at lots of people on Labyrinth map, but it's not illegal.

I started to play with TOP 10 then TOP 100 and now TOP 1000 etc etc

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:00 pm
by xroads
ya, the real issue is foeing someone as soon as they learn it so you wont loose points. Also you invite people with little or no experience on your maps.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:11 pm
by BENCLUB
And yes I foed you. It's not illegal.

Private message = private, why do you put it in public ?


xroads I told you that we could play in December, true ?

I unfoe you.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:13 pm
by Gilligan
xroads wrote:ya, the real issue is foeing someone as soon as they learn it so you wont loose points. Also you invite people with little or no experience on your maps.


Not true...I've played Ben may times on Labyrinth, and played many team games with people who know the map.

I'm not saying that he hasn't done this to other people...but I haven't seen it.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:37 pm
by Agent 86
Ben, you are following the rules..so don't worry. Can't see any problem with inviting majors or above to your games. Keep winning mate.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:27 pm
by frankiebee
Benclub invited me to more than 1 game to. Foeing somebody after a win might be looked down upon, but in the case of Benclub, I dont see any farming.
Do you have game numbers in which he farmed low ranked players?

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:37 pm
by BENCLUB
What is the definition of "farm" ?

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:40 pm
by benga
frankiebee wrote:Do you have game numbers in which he farmed low ranked players?


why do they have to be low ranked?

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:54 pm
by Shannon Apple
Why are people so stupid that they take up invites without checking in the first place? I declined and gave him a reason. This is all a product of the new monthly prize. Someone else did it last month and I told him to piss off as well, just as I politely told Ben to piss off in a roundabout way. I'm not quite as generous with my points to just gift them to people who are farming one map. lol.

cc, fix your system. People see an opportunity to win a prize, they're gonna take it. It'll be someone else next month.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:42 pm
by wi1bert
So we are only allowed to invite better players than us to games? As kiz kiz said, people have a choice.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:56 pm
by Bruceswar
Not that I have a dog in this fight but...

2013-11-28 20:23:27 - josko.ri: good luck and congrats for becoming the first monthly leaderboard winner!
2013-11-29 06:54:18 - BENCLUB: Thank you, I farmed all TOP 600 on labyrinth map :)


So you say you farmed people on "your map" How did you pick your opp?

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:58 pm
by BENCLUB
For me farm = invit.

And it's not illegal.

And as you can see i don't play only against low rank lol

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:03 pm
by BENCLUB
Game 13676059

PaulatPeace a colonel sent invitations to 4 Generals, does he farms us ? :)

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:56 pm
by ubcman64
benga wrote:
frankiebee wrote:Do you have game numbers in which he farmed low ranked players?


why do they have to be low ranked?


Agreed......farming is based on map experience not rank.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:19 pm
by Shannon Apple
ubcman64 wrote:
benga wrote:
frankiebee wrote:Do you have game numbers in which he farmed low ranked players?


why do they have to be low ranked?


Agreed......farming is based on map experience not rank.

+1

Map ranking people, and then only inviting people with no experience on the map is farming regardless of how many points they have. People who partake in this practice know exactly what they are doing. I don't care much about points, but on principle, I won't join games with the people that I know do this. They can invite me to something I know if they want a game, otherwise, they can go find another idiot.

People will always abuse systems if there is room for abuse, unfortunately.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:40 pm
by QuikSilver
Shannon Apple wrote:
ubcman64 wrote:
benga wrote:
frankiebee wrote:Do you have game numbers in which he farmed low ranked players?


why do they have to be low ranked?


Agreed......farming is based on map experience not rank.

+1

Map ranking people, and then only inviting people with no experience on the map is farming regardless of how many points they have. People who partake in this practice know exactly what they are doing. I don't care much about points, but on principle, I won't join games with the people that I know do this. They can invite me to something I know if they want a game, otherwise, they can go find another idiot.

People will always abuse systems if there is room for abuse, unfortunately.


But he his not abusing... He invite top player, they took a shot, they loose and cry.

When someone invites you to a map, you Know he's good at it! If you accept the challenge, you accept that you don't have 50% of Winning this game.

I played over 600 Times on New World, should I stop Because I'm too good at it?!

When everyone Will stop joining those games he'll stop doing it.

Malabrosse once played too many games freestyle, speed, on new world and feudal. Everyones knows he good, but your telling yourself, if I do win I'll have so many points! So you took a shot.

When I got close of Winning once he foed my, I understood. Killface foed my Because I win against him on 8p All your base are belong to us.... I'm ok with that, that's part of the game, guess What eh is général now... Good to him! :)

Can you all stop to ne sore looser?

Thanks, let's have some fun once on this site.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm
by wi1bert
Well said quicksilver. We all have our favourite maps, what do we do, restrict the times we can play a certain map?

So in summary

1. We can only invite players of more senior rank
2. We can only invite players who have more experience than us
3. We can't use use our favourite map more than a handful of times

Happy days :D

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:07 pm
by codeblue1018
BENCLUB wrote:For me farm = invit.

And it's not illegal.

And as you can see i don't play only against low rank lol


For you "farm" = invite? Lol!

You sent me an invite to that map and I guarantee that you checked to see if I've ever played it before, which I have not; I declined of course. How about I send you an invite to a map that you haven't played with my settings? You will most certainly decline.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:22 pm
by jiminski
codeblue1018 wrote:
BENCLUB wrote:For me farm = invit.

And it's not illegal.

And as you can see i don't play only against low rank lol


For you "farm" = invite? Lol!

You sent me an invite to that map and I guarantee that you checked to see if I've ever played it before, which I have not; I declined of course. How about I send you an invite to a map that you haven't played with my settings? You will most certainly decline.


heheh i got one a while back too for an odd map.. my only doubt that he was attempting to rape me was that it was in fact Benjicat's newest incarnation and he wanted to say hello.

Re: Benclub farming

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:17 pm
by rhp 1
ISN2 wrote:I have played against BENCLUB and he is a blow normal player, a lot of lower ranked players have better understanding of strategies than him, so I think he doesn't deserve the rank. Foeing people after they learned the map is absolutely a cheap way of gaining points, but I don't think it's against rules. Maybe the invitations part can be looked at, I had a more clear case against King Hrepes when he invited a lot of weak players to his special games, but he got cleared ...



you're comparing BENCLUB to Herpes? lmao.... not saying KH didn't bend the rules (or break depending on your point of view) but come on... lol