Conquer Club

Accused:

josko.ri

The accused are suspected of:

Account Sitting

Game number(s):

Game 13140187

Comments: Although I cannot say with certainty that josko.ri was actually account sitting, it seems very interesting that, between Round 6 and Round 15, every time josko.ri played that fishydance played very shortly thereafter. If I am wrong, my apologies to both players, but I think it should be checked out. Note that 2 turns were taken within 30 seconds, 5 within 1 minute and 2 within 2 minutes. For the last 2 Rounds the time between turns is about 46 and 18 minutes. Short, but more reasonable. There was no post saying josko.riwas playing for the other player in either the game or the CL5 Forum.

2013-09-02 11:01:41 - Incrementing game to round 6
2013-09-02 11:10:17 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 2 regions
2013-09-02 11:10:27 - josko.ri deployed 3 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 11:10:33 - josko.ri ended the turn
2013-09-02 11:10:49 - fishydance received 3 troops for 11 regions
2013-09-02 11:10:58 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 11:11:02 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 11:11:05 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 11:24:54 - fishydance reinforced South Logoth with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 11:25:04 - fishydance reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 11:25:08 - fishydance reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-02 11:25:15 - fishydance reinforced The Hillmen with 1 troops from South Logoth
2013-09-02 11:25:29 - fishydance ended the turn
2013-09-02 14:07:32 - karel received 5 troops for 17 regions
2013-09-02 14:07:56 - karel played a set of Grut, Kuraltai, and Ralaq-Marsan nuking each region
2013-09-02 14:08:05 - karel deployed 5 troops on Bhaku
2013-09-02 14:08:08 - karel assaulted Fenrir from Bhaku and conquered it from josko.ri
2013-09-02 14:08:17 - karel assaulted Nidavellir from Fenrir and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-02 14:08:27 - karel assaulted Vaettir from Nidavellir and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-02 14:08:36 - karel assaulted Voluspa from Vaettir and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-02 14:08:49 - karel reinforced Damkianna with 2 troops from Anshar
2013-09-02 14:09:04 - karel reinforced Nekhbet with 1 troops from Voluspa
2013-09-02 14:09:20 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-02 14:09:20 - Incrementing game to round 7
2013-09-02 19:54:34 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 1 regions
2013-09-02 19:54:45 - josko.ri deployed 3 troops on Kaball
2013-09-02 19:54:54 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from The Hillmen
2013-09-02 19:55:00 - josko.ri ended the turn
2013-09-02 19:55:23 - fishydance received 3 troops for 7 regions
2013-09-02 19:55:36 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Kaball
2013-09-02 19:55:41 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Kaball
2013-09-02 19:55:43 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Kaball
2013-09-02 19:55:48 - fishydance assaulted Ralaq-Marsan from Kaball and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-02 19:56:03 - fishydance assaulted Captargac from Ralaq-Marsan and conquered it from karel
2013-09-02 19:56:55 - fishydance assaulted Orkhan from Captargac and conquered it from karel
2013-09-02 19:57:32 - fishydance reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Captargac
2013-09-02 19:57:41 - fishydance reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from Captargac
2013-09-02 19:57:55 - fishydance reinforced The Hillmen with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-02 19:57:59 - fishydance reinforced The Hillmen with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-02 19:58:03 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-02 23:09:32 - karel received 5 troops for 17 regions
2013-09-02 23:09:49 - karel deployed 5 troops on Nekhbet
2013-09-02 23:10:02 - karel assaulted Ostrakon from Nekhbet and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-02 23:10:32 - karel assaulted Ur from Damkianna and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-02 23:11:16 - karel reinforced Ur with 2 troops from Ostrakon
2013-09-02 23:11:28 - karel reinforced Fenrir with 2 troops from Ostrakon
2013-09-02 23:11:40 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-02 23:11:40 - Incrementing game to round 8
2013-09-03 06:09:24 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 1 regions
2013-09-03 06:09:33 - josko.ri deployed 3 troops on The Hillmen
2013-09-03 06:09:40 - josko.ri assaulted Ralaq-Marsan from The Hillmen and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 06:10:01 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 2 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 06:10:16 - josko.ri reinforced The Hillmen with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 06:10:22 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 06:10:30 - josko.ri reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from The Hillmen
2013-09-03 06:10:36 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 06:10:39 - josko.ri ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-03 06:11:12 - fishydance received 3 troops for 7 regions
2013-09-03 06:11:39 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 06:12:01 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Kaball
2013-09-03 06:12:11 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Kaball
2013-09-03 06:12:13 - fishydance assaulted Ragnarok from Kaball and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-03 06:18:00 - fishydance reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Ragnarok
2013-09-03 06:18:05 - fishydance reinforced South Logoth with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-03 06:18:16 - fishydance reinforced The Hillmen with 1 troops from South Logoth
2013-09-03 06:18:29 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-03 07:41:44 - karel received 6 troops for 19 regions
2013-09-03 07:41:55 - karel deployed 2 troops on Ur
2013-09-03 07:42:00 - karel deployed 4 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-03 07:42:06 - karel assaulted Ragnarok from Fenrir and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 07:42:12 - karel assaulted Kaball from Ragnarok and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 07:42:23 - karel assaulted Hebat from Ur and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 07:42:33 - karel assaulted Telal from Hebat and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 07:42:55 - karel reinforced Kaball with 3 troops from Telal
2013-09-03 07:43:10 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-03 07:43:10 - Incrementing game to round 9
2013-09-03 20:28:30 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 2 regions
2013-09-03 20:28:36 - josko.ri played a set of Ostrakon, Telal, and Valley of Doom nuking each region
2013-09-03 20:28:39 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:28:40 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:28:41 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:28:48 - josko.ri reinforced South Logoth with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 20:28:50 - josko.ri reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from The Hillmen
2013-09-03 20:28:51 - josko.ri reinforced South Logoth with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-03 20:28:53 - josko.ri ended the turn
2013-09-03 20:30:48 - fishydance received 3 troops for 4 regions
2013-09-03 20:31:06 - fishydance played a set of The Hillmen, Vaettir, and Kaball nuking each region
2013-09-03 20:31:53 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:32:04 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:32:07 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:32:24 - fishydance assaulted Kaball from South Logoth and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-03 20:32:47 - fishydance assaulted Ragnarok from Kaball and conquered it from karel
2013-09-03 20:33:09 - fishydance assaulted Fenrir from Ragnarok and conquered it from karel
2013-09-03 20:33:35 - fishydance reinforced Kaball with 2 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-03 20:33:43 - fishydance reinforced Ragnarok with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-03 20:33:50 - fishydance reinforced South Logoth with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-03 20:33:56 - fishydance reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from Ragnarok
2013-09-03 20:34:03 - fishydance reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from South Logoth
2013-09-03 20:34:05 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-03 20:56:41 - karel received 5 troops for 17 regions
2013-09-03 20:56:53 - karel played a set of Khnum, Armanap, and Nekhbet nuking each region
2013-09-03 20:57:16 - karel deployed 5 troops on Voluspa
2013-09-03 20:57:23 - karel assaulted Ragnarok from Voluspa and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 20:57:30 - karel assaulted Kaball from Ragnarok and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-03 20:57:48 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-03 20:57:48 - Incrementing game to round 10
2013-09-04 07:43:45 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 1 regions
2013-09-04 07:43:48 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 07:43:49 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 07:43:51 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 07:44:00 - josko.ri assaulted Kaball from Ralaq-Marsan and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 07:44:11 - josko.ri assaulted Ragnarok from Kaball and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 07:52:04 - josko.ri reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from Ragnarok
2013-09-04 07:52:10 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Ragnarok
2013-09-04 07:52:27 - josko.ri reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-04 07:52:30 - josko.ri ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 07:53:09 - fishydance received 3 troops for 5 regions
2013-09-04 07:53:16 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-04 07:53:22 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-04 07:53:26 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-04 07:53:39 - fishydance assaulted Voluspa from Fenrir and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 07:59:01 - fishydance reinforced Voluspa with 1 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-04 07:59:05 - fishydance reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Voluspa
2013-09-04 07:59:08 - fishydance reinforced Ragnarok with 1 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-04 07:59:14 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 07:59:49 - karel received 4 troops for 14 regions
2013-09-04 08:00:08 - karel deployed 4 troops on Bhaku
2013-09-04 08:00:40 - karel assaulted Shadowlands from Downfalls and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-04 08:00:51 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 08:00:51 - Incrementing game to round 11
2013-09-04 08:07:35 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 3 regions
2013-09-04 08:07:37 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 08:07:38 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 08:07:39 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 08:07:42 - josko.ri assaulted The Hillmen from Ralaq-Marsan and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-04 08:07:50 - josko.ri reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Ragnarok
2013-09-04 08:07:54 - josko.ri reinforced Fenrir with 2 troops from The Hillmen
2013-09-04 08:07:55 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from The Hillmen
2013-09-04 08:07:57 - josko.ri reinforced Ralaq-Marsan with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-04 08:07:59 - josko.ri reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Ralaq-Marsan
2013-09-04 08:08:01 - josko.ri ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 08:08:42 - fishydance received 3 troops for 6 regions
2013-09-04 08:08:48 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-04 08:08:53 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-04 08:08:56 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Fenrir
2013-09-04 08:09:05 - fishydance assaulted Nidavellir from Fenrir and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 08:09:20 - fishydance assaulted Bhaku from Fenrir and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 08:10:31 - fishydance assaulted Yazun from Bhaku and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-04 08:12:19 - fishydance reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Yazun
2013-09-04 08:12:29 - fishydance reinforced Nidavellir with 1 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-04 08:12:32 - fishydance reinforced Bhaku with 1 troops from Nidavellir
2013-09-04 08:12:52 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 17:40:12 - karel received 1 troops for holding Raiders
2013-09-04 17:40:12 - karel received 4 troops for 13 regions
2013-09-04 17:40:51 - karel played a set of Yazun, Anshar, and Bagadur nuking each region
2013-09-04 17:41:04 - karel deployed 5 troops on Ongot
2013-09-04 17:41:13 - karel assaulted Kuraltai from Ongot and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-04 17:41:25 - karel assaulted Captargac from Kuraltai and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-04 17:41:38 - karel assaulted Ralaq-Marsan from Captargac and conquered it from josko.ri
2013-09-04 17:41:56 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 17:41:56 - Incrementing game to round 12
2013-09-04 21:55:46 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 3 regions
2013-09-04 21:55:55 - josko.ri played a set of Damkianna, Zikia, and Heimdall nuking each region
2013-09-04 21:56:01 - josko.ri deployed 3 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-04 21:56:05 - josko.ri ended the turn
2013-09-04 21:56:44 - fishydance received 3 troops for 6 regions
2013-09-04 21:57:08 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-04 21:57:13 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-04 21:57:17 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on South Logoth
2013-09-04 21:57:21 - fishydance assaulted Ralaq-Marsan from South Logoth and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 21:57:23 - fishydance assaulted Captargac from Ralaq-Marsan and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 21:57:27 - fishydance assaulted Kuraltai from Captargac and conquered it from karel
2013-09-04 21:59:28 - fishydance reinforced Captargac with 1 troops from Kuraltai
2013-09-04 21:59:42 - fishydance reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Bhaku
2013-09-04 21:59:58 - fishydance reinforced Ragnarok with 1 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-04 22:00:00 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 23:40:48 - karel received 1 troops for holding Raiders
2013-09-04 23:40:48 - karel received 3 troops for 11 regions
2013-09-04 23:40:59 - karel deployed 4 troops on Ongot
2013-09-04 23:41:27 - karel assaulted Khnum from Khnum Dwarves' Gateway and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-04 23:41:37 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-04 23:41:37 - Incrementing game to round 13
2013-09-05 05:10:06 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 3 regions
2013-09-05 05:10:10 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ragnarok
2013-09-05 05:10:11 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ragnarok
2013-09-05 05:10:13 - josko.ri deployed 1 troops on Ragnarok
2013-09-05 05:10:17 - josko.ri assaulted Fenrir from Ragnarok and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-05 05:10:30 - josko.ri reinforced Bhaku with 2 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-05 05:10:32 - josko.ri reinforced Ragnarok with 1 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-05 05:10:35 - josko.ri reinforced Kaball with 1 troops from Ragnarok
2013-09-05 05:10:39 - josko.ri reinforced The Hillmen with 1 troops from Kaball
2013-09-05 05:10:46 - josko.ri reinforced Bhaku with 1 troops from The Hillmen
2013-09-05 05:10:49 - josko.ri ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-05 05:11:50 - fishydance received 3 troops for 8 regions
2013-09-05 05:12:02 - fishydance played a set of Edin-Na-Zu, Orkhan, and Keramion nuking each region
2013-09-05 05:12:08 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Bhaku
2013-09-05 05:12:12 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Bhaku
2013-09-05 05:12:13 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Bhaku
2013-09-05 05:12:19 - fishydance assaulted Khnum from Bhaku and conquered it from karel
2013-09-05 05:13:07 - fishydance assaulted Ongot from Khnum and conquered it from karel
2013-09-05 05:13:47 - fishydance assaulted Yazun from Khnum and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-05 05:15:02 - fishydance reinforced Bhaku with 1 troops from Kuraltai
2013-09-05 05:15:12 - fishydance reinforced Yazun with 1 troops from Bhaku
2013-09-05 05:15:56 - fishydance reinforced Bhaku with 1 troops from Captargac
2013-09-05 05:16:22 - fishydance reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Yazun
2013-09-05 05:16:38 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-05 07:22:39 - karel received 1 troops for holding Raiders
2013-09-05 07:22:39 - karel received 3 troops for 10 regions
2013-09-05 07:23:08 - karel deployed 4 troops on Khnum Dwarves' Gateway
2013-09-05 07:23:33 - karel ended the turn
2013-09-05 07:23:33 - Incrementing game to round 14
2013-09-05 07:50:47 - josko.ri received 3 troops for 4 regions
2013-09-05 07:50:50 - josko.ri deployed 3 troops on Ongot
2013-09-05 07:50:54 - josko.ri reinforced Bhaku with 1 troops from Fenrir
2013-09-05 07:50:56 - josko.ri ended the turn
2013-09-05 07:51:20 - fishydance received 1 troops for holding Orks
2013-09-05 07:51:20 - fishydance received 3 troops for 10 regions
2013-09-05 07:51:27 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ongot
2013-09-05 07:51:44 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ongot
2013-09-05 07:51:53 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ongot
2013-09-05 07:51:57 - fishydance deployed 1 troops on Ongot
2013-09-05 07:52:06 - fishydance assaulted Bagadur from Ongot and conquered it from neutral player
2013-09-05 07:52:14 - fishydance assaulted Otuken from Bagadur and conquered it from karel
2013-09-05 07:52:55 - fishydance assaulted Shadowlands from Otuken and conquered it from karel
2013-09-05 07:55:06 - fishydance reinforced Bagadur with 1 troops from Shadowlands
2013-09-05 07:55:27 - fishydance reinforced Khnum with 1 troops from Bhaku
2013-09-05 07:55:53 - fishydance reinforced Fenrir with 1 troops from Bhaku
2013-09-05 07:56:14 - fishydance ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-05 16:15:15 - karel received 3 troops for 8 regions
2013-09-05 16:15:28 - karel deployed 3 troops on Khnum Dwarves' Gateway
2013-09-05 16:15:37 - karel assaulted Khnum from Khnum Dwarves' Gateway and conquered it from fishydance
2013-09-05 16:15:45 - karel ended the turn and got spoils
2013-09-05 16:15:45 - Incrementing game to round 15

Game 13140225

Also please note that, in Game 13140225 the time between Bruceswarturns and josko.ri turns between Round 3 and Round 6 was surprisingly short. But not as extreme as the above game.

good report man

They likely played one after the other for fog purposes.

But this one should be a pretty easy case to investigate/judge, since they have different flag/IPs.

Also, in before MDs.

Rodion wrote:They likely played one after the other for fog purposes.

But this one should be a pretty easy case to investigate/judge, since they have different flag/IPs.

Also, in before MDs.

You are correct, Rodion. Josko and I took our turns when we were both online to discuss, as our turns were immediately after each other once the game got down to 1 player on Myth's side. Nobody in KoRT has my password. As you point out, it will be easy to investigate, so no worries. No harm no foul.

something smells Fishy

Well yeah, i guess it was easy to check their flags if you had suspicions after their turns. It happens quite often to discuss turns RT and they were just playing back to back...

Yup we had 2 consecutive turns as player who played between us was eliminated (this applies both to bruceswar and fishydance cases) so we played when we met online, disucssed both turns and just played. Simple flag check or IP check by multihunters can prove it. I do not even know fishydance's nor bruceswar's passwords.

Also, in round 10 karel played his turn just 34 seconds after fishydance ended her turn. Following your logic for basis of this report, maybe I also sat for karel? I think it should be reported, who knows if I somehow got information of karel's password and sat for him as well?

I see MYTH players do not show bad fair play only in games, but also in forums by filling spurious reports, congrats for that MYTH I think your members are very proud on their josko's imaginary sitting paranoia

"Be sure before you accuse someone." Really, you should look at all the evidence beforehand. Josko is in Japan, Fishy is in the USA, so flags would give it away. Without being there, I am 100% certain the admins will find that josko never ever logged fishy's account.

KORT is a great team, we do well because we work together. You will see this in many of our games because we discuss turns together in detail on Skype wherever it is possible. If a player has been eliminated from the other side, that means that we will have 2 turns to take at that time. It's happened with me too. I assure you that josko does not have my password either. While josko is an excellent player, Fishydance is too, so there really is no need for anyone to take turns for anyone else unless in an emergency or prearranged sitter situation due to vacation. In this case, it is announced in chat, ALWAYS.

Again, think before you accuse someone.

Mod edit: image removed

smegal69 wrote:

Shoo, with yer trollin'!

Locked to stop the inevitable clan mud slinging. You kids can't have anything nice.

josko is cleared of account sitting abuse.