Conquer Club

Accused:

Everyone in this game 11911009


Game number(s):

Game 11911009



Comments:

First player is a premium captain and the others are all blue "?"???? Give me a break...

Certainly does look suspicious, especially considering I haven't seen a ? in any of my games for ages...
The only scenario I can think is if one person convinced a group of friends to start playing CC and this is one of their first games together?

5 player games attract more NR's than usual, but it indeed looks suspicous.

I have had games that I made that filled up with NR's and then they all dropped out, though it is unusual. I can see no reason why they would all decide to play Middle East though instead of something like classic or W2.1. It is also quite odd that they all live in the USA and two of them joined within 3 minutes of each other and another joined within a week of those two. They also have all played today and are within a couple hours of each other as far as last visits to the site. I would say there is enough suspicion at least to check for multis.

Also, a side note, I would say if they show up as multis this guy should get banned for it because he is obviously exploiting the site, he was warned as he made each of the accounts that having multiple accounts was wrong and it is common sense that when you are playing a game with 4 NR's that you control and you are purposfully making them lose that it is against the rules, or at least I would think it was common sense.

This thread got posted on my wall by some random person. I suppose it was so I could be present for my trial. Why not just ask me if I'm cheating with a multiple account?

5 other NR's also joined this game Game 11911000. So if I were cheating in one it would stand to reason I'm cheating in both. That would require me having made at least 8 distinct accounts in addition to my regular account. Some of these 8 accounts are also playing other games, so I would have to manage those games as well. One of these 8 accounts is even playing in another premium account v. multiple NR's game here 11903389. If I'm cheating here then obviously EESHA is cheating there and I assume everyone else can't control who joins their games. I assure you I do not have this kind of time.

My question is: Is there a valid method by which the system checks for multi's that I will be validated with or is the trial just chatting on this thread?

They have valid methods of checking. You don't have to fill the chat box to exonerate yourself. I would say you are safe with the information you provided.

I think some of the NR's get busted for being a multi, but you won't.

How are you getting so many noobs to join your games? Are you inviting them?

72o wrote:How are you getting so many noobs to join your games? Are you inviting them?

More likely explanation, a multi joined both games. He does not have a history of noobs joining.

72o wrote:How are you getting so many noobs to join your games? Are you inviting them?

I'm not "getting [them] to join." No I didn't invite them. I just created about five games and they all joined. It's not that odd though. I'm pretty sure its happened before. Not often, but sometimes. I think using some of the less popular maps it happens more because higher ranked users have developed preferences for the more popular maps. I get tired of playing all the same maps though, so sometimes I just go choose some that I haven't played much or in awhile. Although there are rarer maps for the settings I play with than Middle East and American Civil War.

Javan you don't owe an explanation to anyone here. CLEARED

Evil Semp wrote:Javan you don't owe an explanation to anyone here. CLEARED

What about the two players who joined within three minutes of each other?

Evil Semp wrote:Javan you don't owe an explanation to anyone here. CLEARED

Thank-you and good luck in finding the multi's.

This has just happened to me in game 11911788

Four brand new accounts joined their very first game within 24 houyrs of each other. This time they are randomly spread.. But almost too random: 1 each from USA, Sweden, Israel & Australia

Possibly the same person? Again a 5 player game.

psycho warrior wrote:This has just happened to me in game 11911788

Four brand new accounts joined their very first game within 24 houyrs of each other. This time they are randomly spread.. But almost too random: 1 each from USA, Sweden, Israel & Australia

Possibly the same person? Again a 5 player game.

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Metsfanmax wrote:

Evil Semp wrote:Javan you don't owe an explanation to anyone here. CLEARED

What about the two players who joined within three minutes of each other?

new players join. Then they look for a game. They join a game that is open, most likely on the first page, cause they don't know better.
So if 3 people in the worldsomewhere, somehow thought, lets play risk, e.g. someone in the morning with a free hour, someone during a lunchbreak and someone just off from work and looking for a game. They would sign up at the same real time, but the time is different locally. Then the odds are that they will join the same game. Thus you would get more nr's in that particular. game. Nothing suspisious about it if you think it through. Multiple people sigh up for cc every hour. Again, they would most likely be placed or join the same game.
I am not sure how i can make this more clear, but thats the language barrier for me. I know what i want to say, just now how to get it across.

Well I think this is highly suspicious I'm sorry.

I've just done a game finder search on all public games with standard rules that are waiting for players. It gives 934 games in total and of these there are 14 newbies i.e. blue question marks who have joined up with games. That is one newbie for every 67 games. So for 4 newbies to all choose the same game to play within the same time period is extremely suspicious, and for that to happen two or three times within the period Nov 8th - Nov 9th is even more odd. This is statistics speaking here - from the mathematical likelihood based on a pretty large test group (734 games) I've just looked at.

Another way of looking at it, is that of 734 games, there is no other game where there is more than 1 newbie who has joined the same game. Yet - it happens that on three occasions in the last day or so, all these newbies wanted to join the same game...