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morff69 - [one month ban]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:22 pm
by bigpash
Accused:

morff69
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx



The accused are suspected of: Intentional dead beating

As you can see he has been beaten in this game, yet he does not take his next turn leaving the game in limbo. As you can see from the time logs he has found time to take turns this game Game 11240612 , also Game 11240295

Now I am sure this might be an oversight however he has previous for leaving freemiums hanging when the game is lost for example Game 11212990




Game number(s):

Game 11240613



Comments:

After reading chat in quite alot of his games, he does not seem the most polite of players. So a foe and move on will be done. But this game does need to be finished.

Re: morff69

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:32 pm
by Evil Semp
I looked at about 25 of his most recent 1v1 games and only found where he deadbeated. I am marking this CLOSED.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:37 pm
by eddie2
evil don't think this should be closed if you read the chat.
2012-06-08 15:26:13 - morff69: absolute fucking bullshit
2012-06-08 15:31:28 - Mfuti: now it s my turn .....seem shit!!!!!
2012-06-08 15:31:57 - morff69: I saw m8
2012-06-08 15:32:53 - morff69: again wot fucking bollox, 5 v 7 you lost 0, well im outta here, enjoy the fl=king wait
2012-06-08 15:33:56 - morff69: I QUIT, CYA AROUND

2012-06-08 15:36:00 - Mfuti: Aieee


maybe not intentional deadbeating but since the op is freemium it should come under holding hostage. seems to me he does this to freemiums only to stall new games for them.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:56 pm
by Evil Semp
eddie2 wrote:evil don't think this should be closed if you read the chat.
2012-06-08 15:26:13 - morff69: absolute fucking bullshit
2012-06-08 15:31:28 - Mfuti: now it s my turn .....seem shit!!!!!
2012-06-08 15:31:57 - morff69: I saw m8
2012-06-08 15:32:53 - morff69: again wot fucking bollox, 5 v 7 you lost 0, well im outta here, enjoy the fl=king wait
2012-06-08 15:33:56 - morff69: I QUIT, CYA AROUND

2012-06-08 15:36:00 - Mfuti: Aieee


maybe not intentional deadbeating but since the op is freemium it should come under holding hostage. seems to me he does this to freemiums only to stall new games for them.


Then provide some more proof. Like I said I looked through about 25 games. Maybe you don't care how much time it takes me to look at more games but I do.

Here is change for your two cents.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:06 am
by Masli
Well, I checked some of his games and it seem to happen more then once. The thing that is even worse for me is the way he talks in chat...

Game 11135716
2012-05-26 13:57:36 - morff69 was kicked out for missing too many turns

Game 11130779
he was killed before his 3rd miss, but the chat :roll: :roll: :roll: :
2012-05-21 15:07:47 - morff69: your dice are a fucking joke
2012-05-21 15:10:07 - morff69: And your a fking Serb
2012-05-21 15:10:37 - morff69: What aload of fucking bollox
2012-05-21 15:10:53 - morff69: You cunts dont deserve to be on this planet


Game 11102812
he was killed before his 3rd miss, but the chat :roll: :roll: :roll: :
2012-05-16 09:42:08 - morff69: sad wanker
2012-05-16 09:43:05 - pop.vol: happy wanker
2012-05-16 09:44:02 - morff69: fking croat
2012-05-16 09:45:18 - morff69: b,b,b,b,b,b,b what a prick you are, have the fking points, you low no lifer


Game 11097509
2012-05-17 13:55:15 - morff69 was kicked out for missing too many turns

Game 11097275
2012-05-18 15:48:02 - morff69 was kicked out for missing too many turns + the chat :
2012-05-14 14:48:55 - morff69: chicken shit no lifer
2012-05-14 14:49:28 - morff69: and you have 12hrs, fking idiot :-)
2012-05-14 14:55:19 - n11cod: lmao, tick tock tick tock, am i not playing like you want me too, tough shit, :-0
2012-05-14 15:01:07 - n11cod: oh shit for brains, my clark ticking away states 23h 13m, you can start in the 12 but i will certainly wait my 24, get your facts sorted out dim wit ;-)
2012-05-15 15:48:39 - morff69: your a cunt
2012-05-15 15:49:21 - morff69: And prolly a fking PEDO


Game 11079041
2012-05-16 11:30:57 - morff69 was kicked out for missing too many turns
2012-05-12 20:02:25 - morff69: Dont join anymore thanks
2012-05-12 20:05:27 - morff69: Chicken shit, to scared to play when im at the board
2012-05-12 20:09:26 - morff69: Enjoy the wiat, chicken shit arsehole of the world, and foed
2012-05-12 20:21:53 - ltiyank: f*ck off
2012-05-12 20:22:11 - ltiyank: you want to play when we are both at the board play speed
2012-05-12 20:22:22 - ltiyank: i dont mind the wait its 24 hours
2012-05-12 20:22:44 - ltiyank: i'll enjoy the win
2012-05-12 20:22:50 - ltiyank: nice and slow
2012-05-12 20:23:08 - ltiyank: it'll make me smile just knowing it pisses you off
2012-05-12 20:23:13 - ltiyank: hahaha
2012-05-13 11:30:50 - morff69: cunts like you are scum of the earth, fking chicken shit bitch, get good


Game 11074455
2012-05-21 09:13:06 - morff69: Dont join anymore thanks
2012-05-21 10:09:14 - morff69: Ah your 1 of those sad b button cunts, figures
2012-05-21 10:13:21 - morff69: I will learn f*ck all from you :-)
2012-05-21 10:13:40 - morff69: Apart from how to be a b button wanker :-)
2012-05-21 10:14:00 - morff69: Get life. But you cant your irish :-(
2012-05-21 10:14:25 - morff69: Welcome to my Foe list, have a nice POTATO life

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:39 am
by Serbia
Masli wrote:Well, I checked some of his games and it seem to happen more then once. The thing that is even worse for me is the way he talks in chat...


Maybe this report should be changed to a bigotry charge? Seems to have an issue with other nationalities.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:22 am
by bigpash
At this point I would add he joined a further game of mine this morning, and has failed to take his turn. He has however taken turns in the following games over that time period those games are:

11240612
Game 11240295
Game 11235381
Game 11235380
Game 11235379
Game 11203868

He has found enough time in the last 5 hours to take turns in all but one of his live games.
This clearly shows to me that he has filled this spot with the sole intention of playing as slow as possible, or even deadbeat
.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:55 pm
by Uncle Death
I can't imagine this not being reopened. He should get a ban for the rudeness alone. He clearly deadbeated intentionally to punish the other player.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:25 pm
by John Deere
This is sad. But did anybody expect a mod to punish a fellow clan member?

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:20 pm
by Woodruff
John Deere wrote:This is sad. But did anybody expect a mod to punish a fellow clan member?


Indeed: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=171522

For what it's worth, I have also had this individual foe'd for quite a while and my noted reason is:
"Game hostage-holding prick, who also C&A's those who do it to him."

So it seems that this is not at all the lone occurrence that some would like to pretend it is.

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:45 pm
by jefjef
For what it's worth. I am often (not always) a Friday thru Sunday sitter for morff due to his weekend schedule/lack of computer access. Sometimes I forget about his turns. Sometimes I don't take them all. Sometimes I don't check him in time.

As for JD crack about ES. Yes ES is a KOA member for like a week. He very likely doesn't know morff or even realize he is a clan mate. Yes another mod should be handed this case and JD should grow up a bit and cease trolling myself and other KOA members... ;)

Have a wonderful CC day.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:54 pm
by jgordon1111
Thank you KA for re opening this one. It has been made clear that ES being new to KOA did not realize he was dealing with a clan mate. No harm no foul,everyone can make a mistake.

But the accused has went a little overboard, with the nationality bashing,those comments are specifically derogatory to those players and their homelands. Once is game rage we all have moments when the dice piss us off. But when its repeated over and over,thats bigotry.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:16 pm
by jltile1
Go ahead close this one too. Tired of this bs as the other got closed when anyone says anything about a mod. Like I said KA has to control the children.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:23 pm
by king achilles
jltile1 - keep your anger over the mods in check. Like I said, if you have nothing relevant to post, stop trolling. There are other forums where you can spend your time on. ;)

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:31 pm
by Woodruff
king achilles wrote:jltile1 - keep your anger over the mods in check. Like I said, if you have nothing relevant to post, stop trolling. There are other forums where you can spend your time on. ;)


Please note my post regarding the original complaint of hostage-holding. My reason for foeing him was because at that time, there were a number of instances I had noted of his doing exactly this (which came from previous complaints against him). This is clearly not at all an isolated incident nor should it be treated as such. And of course, the note about his language as well, though that is a different issue (but one just as damaging to the site financially, concerning players who run across him).

Re: morff69[CLOSED]ES

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:07 am
by therev1957
jefjef wrote:For what it's worth. I am often (not always) a Friday thru Sunday sitter for morff due to his weekend schedule/lack of computer access. Sometimes I forget about his turns. Sometimes I don't take them all. Sometimes I don't check him in time.

As for JD crack about ES. Yes ES is a KOA member for like a week. He very likely doesn't know morff or even realize he is a clan mate. Yes another mod should be handed this case and JD should grow up a bit and cease trolling myself and other KOA members... ;)

Have a wonderful CC day.


Wow I guess other clans are not the pack all of us know who are members are and actively decide who the new members will be! I guess that is why I am with the pack!

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:16 am
by TheForgivenOne
Keep the posts on topic. If you have nothing relevant to add, Do not post. There is no need for your post rev.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:33 am
by John Deere
KA why didnt you just assign the punishment? There is no way anybody can honestly look at this and say he doesnt use bigotry way more than should be allowed.... I have had him foed for so long due to this. I dont think his account should be able to post except in hidden forums.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:41 am
by jgordon1111
John Deere wrote:KA why didnt you just assign the punishment? There is no way anybody can honestly look at this and say he doesnt use bigotry way more than should be allowed.... I have had him foed for so long due to this. I dont think his account should be able to post except in hidden forums.


+1 this may be the first time it has been brought forward on morff's bigotry,but this needs to be handled to where he cant do it again. It wont hurt him to be able to just talk to his clan in pvt forums, or team game chat only. And it wont hurt anyone else on the site for this to be done to him.

It might send out a warning to others to not act in the same way.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:48 am
by eddie2
humm the problem i see is the abuse is in game chat not in the forums so he has not actually broke any forum rules to get a forum ban... onloy thing i can think off is

1) intentional deadbeating warning
2)bigotry 2nd offense site ban.

since both offenses are major infractions and the bigotry is not in forums.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:39 pm
by jefjef
eddie2 wrote:humm the problem i see is the abuse is in game chat not in the forums so he has not actually broke any forum rules to get a forum ban... onloy thing i can think off is

1) intentional deadbeating warning
2)bigotry 2nd offense site ban.

since both offenses are major infractions and the bigotry is not in forums.


Well anyway... The deadbeating complaint isn't really even note worthy..

As for his game chat. Yep. He crossed lines and should be warned. But to try to stretch this into a double infraction is :roll:

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:47 pm
by NoSurvivors
jefjef wrote:
eddie2 wrote:humm the problem i see is the abuse is in game chat not in the forums so he has not actually broke any forum rules to get a forum ban... onloy thing i can think off is

1) intentional deadbeating warning
2)bigotry 2nd offense site ban.

since both offenses are major infractions and the bigotry is not in forums.


Well anyway... The deadbeating complaint isn't really even note worthy..

As for his game chat. Yep. He crossed lines and should be warned. But to try to stretch this into a double infraction is :roll:


Gotta agree wit jefjef here.. he will probably be warned for bigotry.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:50 pm
by jgordon1111
jefjef,your right dont try an push a double infraction. But morff seems rather agressive for the usual warning. It wouldnt be denying him much to block him from posting anywhere but pvt forums.

On the other hand letter of the rule is first infraction is warning for bigotry.

And I have been pushing for equal treatment for everyone.

So no hypocrisy from me.

And I would expect the same from others that have been vying for equal treatment.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 pm
by eddie2
NoSurvivors wrote:
jefjef wrote:
eddie2 wrote:humm the problem i see is the abuse is in game chat not in the forums so he has not actually broke any forum rules to get a forum ban... onloy thing i can think off is

1) intentional deadbeating warning
2)bigotry 2nd offense site ban.

since both offenses are major infractions and the bigotry is not in forums.


Well anyway... The deadbeating complaint isn't really even note worthy..

As for his game chat. Yep. He crossed lines and should be warned. But to try to stretch this into a double infraction is :roll:


Gotta agree wit jefjef here.. he will probably be warned for bigotry.


got to disagree on this.
mods ask for 3 or 4 recent examples for intentional deadbeating these have been given... holding hostage in some games he says in chat enjoy your wait so this prooves he is holding freemiums hostage by deadbeating out. here are some recent examples of intentional deadbeating in games cases.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=172251&p=3763528&hilit=intentional+deadbeating#p3763528
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=172026&p=3759381&hilit=intentional+deadbeating#p3759381
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=170599&p=3727300&hilit=intentional+deadbeating#p3727300

add to this
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=75764&p=1817176&hilit=morff69#p1817176 first multi bust major infraction
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=77449&p=1843690&hilit=morff69#p1843690 2nd multi bust in a month ??? is this not a site ban .quote from tfo in a recent case.
TheForgivenOne wrote:
And yes, you just described a Policy that ConquerClub goes by. If you are caught breaking the Multiple Accounts rule once, you are allowed to rebuy back in. However, this is only allowed once. One user on here has been busted over 60 times for trying to get back. And each time he comes back, he gets caught.

found here.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=136265&p=2980111&hilit=rebuy+premium#p2980111

noted for abusive messages before.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=75376&p=1805828&hilit=morff69#p1805828

so there is a record of major infractions, i especially like the 2 separate multi busts within 1 month i thought after your 2nd bust you are guested. well thats what it says in the rules.

Re: morff69 - pending

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:23 pm
by jgordon1111
Oh. I did not dig this deep into this guy. Holy shit.

This is an entirely different scenario.

yeah this is pretty bad,got nothing more to say or add here.