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Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Cleared] DCR

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:02 am
by HardAttack
Accused:

Greatwhite
keef12
Toads



The accused are suspected of:

Other: A form of farming pattern here i guess...Didnt go in a very deep research yet about their game history, however it is when i was looking a good/challenging 3v3 game around i saw this pattern. Looks very like that they have a noob player invited then him/her joined in team B, this way tackling team B weakening it, making the game an easy win for themselves.
Cheap tactic, and obviously targetting unexprienced new CC folks...



Game number(s):

these below games are in waiting list;

Game 11107948
Game 11108689 in this game the cook player is invited in, a GREAT SIGN of these fellas are inviting cooks and cadets around, then acting like they joined in the games with their own desicions, which is not...They are farming here.
Game 11108010
Game 11024284
Game 11015423

these below games are active ones now in play;
Game 11108092

these below games are completed ones;
Game 11093223

snapshots :

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:08 am
by GeneralRisk
Sure does look like a farming technique. Amazing how low some stoop to get points.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:09 am
by TheGeneral2112
show: proof

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:36 am
by jgordon1111
Some very sad playing, a travesty of the system.

Come people play the damn game, win or lose on your own ability or the dice.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:04 am
by Extreme Ways
CHEAP

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:18 pm
by Denise
jgordon1111 wrote:Some very sad playing, a travesty of the system.

Come people play the damn game, win or lose on your own ability or the dice.

+1

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:56 pm
by KraphtOne
Nice catch HA

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:14 pm
by agentcom
Isn't is not farming if they're not new recruits? Or has that changed? Wouldn't this more likely be abuse of the PM/Invite system? I haven't paid much attention to the farming rules lately, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:21 am
by Keefie
There are other players in those games that haven't been accused.

dupa
merch313
mageplunka69

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:10 am
by Keefie
A very very weak accusation. In most of the games listed above NO player has been invited and two of the accused don't even feature in some of the games.

As for the lynch mob getting on the band wagon I'd like to say that you're all idiots.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:50 am
by keef12
This is absolutely false. We post games and who ever joins is well beyond our control. In fact when I see lower rank players join it bums me out. There is way more to lose than gain the way the point system is setup. Also I enjoy the original map and mostly simpler games, so the dice are a huge factor, which would make this "farming" strategy beyond stupid. I much prefer playing higher ranked players and if you check my history always look for the higher rank games to join my preferred maps. Can't control who joins when posting my preferred maps......

TOTALLY FALSE......is there any penalty to the accuser ? A person that must not be very bright and has way to much time on his hands.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:12 am
by TheGeneral2112
keef12 wrote:This is absolutely false. We post games and who ever joins is well beyond our control. In fact when I see lower rank players join it bums me out. There is way more to lose than gain the way the point system is setup. Also I enjoy the original map and mostly simpler games, so the dice are a huge factor, which would make this "farming" strategy beyond stupid. I much prefer playing higher ranked players and if you check my history always look for the higher rank games to join my preferred maps. Can't control who joins when posting my preferred maps......

TOTALLY FALSE......is there any penalty to the accuser ? A person that must not be very bright and has way to much time on his hands.


Can you explain this?

show: proof

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:54 am
by Agent 86
It's not farming..it's ranching..totally legal. Just ask our current conqueror. He will explain in detail how to screw this website!!

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:04 am
by GeneralRisk
Agent 86 wrote:It's not farming..it's ranching..totally legal. Just ask our current conqueror. He will explain in detail how to screw this website!!
You are correct that it is legal.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:15 am
by HardAttack
GeneralRisk wrote:
Agent 86 wrote:It's not farming..it's ranching..totally legal. Just ask our current conqueror. He will explain in detail how to screw this website!!
You are correct that it is legal.


It is legal or illegal i dont care though...
It is cheap tactic, it is one day will be illegal...A problem it is, reason why public team games are no more any popular, cos many exprienced players know this risk that they can see em playing with a cook in the case they dont send invites to the known names...

No one can defend this to be a good act, or not cheap, or innocent...It is simply taking advantage of invite system, deliberately, conciously, defendably (cos not illegal)... This is no way going to have site to look more beatiful and attractive but decreases the beauty of the invite system and game finder lists.

For these above stated reasons, i can simply not play with random ppl...

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:05 am
by keef12
For the record I have never invited an opponent to a game unless it was for a rematch. And if I did it would not be a cook ! I'm sure the guru's at CC can verify this information an hope they take action against the accuser !

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:18 pm
by Keefie
I for one do not believe that keef12 or Toads would invite cooks just to get easy wins, they both have more class than that. I would also add that it would be quite believable for them to join a game and not check it again until it's filled, so if a cook or two had been invited by the third member of the trip they just wouldn't see it happen.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:03 pm
by HardAttack
IN THE BELOW PICTURE, THE COOK PLAYER S BEEN INVITED TO THE GAME... WHO INVITED HIM TO THE GAME ?

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Possible answers;
Someone from Team A, or someone from Team B...at the end, a player can not invite himself to the game, then salior is invited to the game by one those above 5 names...Am i right ? Ok ...LETS KEEP IT GOING...

TODAY, I PMed TO THE TEAM B PLAYERS ASKING BELOW;
LOOK CAREFULLY TO WHOM I SENT THE PM, they are team B players who might be invited the last COOK player to the GAME...READ THE PM...

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AND THEIR ANSWERS ORDERING IS FROM NEWEST (UPMOST) TO THE OLD ONES (BOTTOMMOST)
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Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:12 pm
by what,me worry?
Just to clarify, Israel and I did not invite our teammate to any of game. We both thought the other invited the noob to get more points. :lol:

Team 1 must have invited the noob to our team.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:12 pm
by HardAttack
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Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:21 pm
by eddie2
well all i can say is that this is the reason for the change to the invite system last year to prevent teams from signing low inexperianced teams to maps. although i get on with a couple of the accused this must at least be a warning for them or else it was pointless making the change to show who was being invited.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:40 pm
by KraphtOne
keef12 wrote:For the record I have never invited an opponent to a game unless it was for a rematch. And if I did it would not be a cook ! I'm sure the guru's at CC can verify this information an hope they take action against the accuser !



"for the record" i don't think that all of you guys are taking turns inviting a cook to your games... but you definitely noticed that it was being done by "someone" on your team...

and as far as this being farming its not its under gross abuse, i'm too lazy to go back to the thread about Oasis games that "someone" got to conquerer with by inviting clueless folks to ruin chances of good teams joining

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:30 pm
by rhp 1
KraphtOne wrote:
keef12 wrote:For the record I have never invited an opponent to a game unless it was for a rematch. And if I did it would not be a cook ! I'm sure the guru's at CC can verify this information an hope they take action against the accuser !



"for the record" i don't think that all of you guys are taking turns inviting a cook to your games... but you definitely noticed that it was being done by "someone" on your team...

and as far as this being farming its not its under gross abuse, i'm too lazy to go back to the thread about Oasis games that "someone" got to conquerer with by inviting clueless folks to ruin chances of good teams joining



LOL... +1

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:09 pm
by merch313
I see my name on one of the games and ive played tons of trips games with GW... All games that we play are mostly and Jamaica and people just join..Think I have 18 waiting on Jamaica and no invites sent most have none on team 2. Not sure about all the games but I have not seen this happen with these guys.

Re: Greatwhite - keef12 - Toads [Pending] DCR

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:48 am
by deathcomesrippin
@ HardAttack- can you report the PMs for me so I can see them?