Cheating or Useless player?

[KoE_Sirius]

Hi I am Head of KoE as far as CC goes and I cant believe this is happening in a tourney.Rayray(aka KoE CLaymore) is in 347619 WHICH IS A TOURNEY GAME.I have played with Evil Semp lots of time and dont consider him a cheat,but you have got to look at this game.Monaco has not attacked Semp once through the whole game.

Please visit and say a few words wont you.

[chessplaya]

Hi I am Head of KoE as far as CC goes and I cant believe this is happening in a tourney.Rayray(aka KoE CLaymore) is in 347619 WHICH IS A TOURNEY GAME.I have played with Evil Semp lots of time and dont consider him a cheat,but you have got to look at this game.Monaco has not attacked Semp once through the whole game.

Please visit and say a few words wont you.

u need to fill out the form bro
Cheers

[AAFitz]

Hi I am Head of KoE as far as CC goes and I cant believe this is happening in a tourney.Rayray(aka KoE CLaymore) is in 347619 WHICH IS A TOURNEY GAME.I have played with Evil Semp lots of time and dont consider him a cheat,but you have got to look at this game.Monaco has not attacked Semp once through the whole game.

Please visit and say a few words wont you.

u need to fill out the form bro
Cheers

I dont think hes reporting it...just asking for discussion. I for one cant imagine Semp would take part in any cheating. And its even possible Monaco isnt cheating per-se, but if he has a strategy, I sure dont see it...

ahh...I took a closer look....he is playing the game to increase his chances in the tourney. That happens, and it isnt cheating. Its not a secret alliance. He's simply making sure blue doesnt win...not letting semp win. Im in a tourney now, with the same players in 10 games. At round 45, its tallied, so on round 44 everyone attacks the weaker player to get more points. Its all part of the tournament. But choosing to kill one player over another isnt, strictly cheating. Not in one game. And certainly not when the reason is to win a tournament. If killing semp was in Monaco's interest in the tourney, Im sure he'd be the one being attacked.

A tourney is a collection of games, and if you play them all as if they were ordinary games, you will never win one. It does seem unfair, but if monaco kills semp, and blue wins...monaco loses his points, and his chances in the tourney. And, since there's no way he mentioned this to semp...and actually posted that Semp is going to win, it isnt a secret alliance. Its a strategic choice to advance in a tourney.

Many will disagree with this Im sure, and Im not saying its perfectly fair, but in every game we decide who to attack and who not to. Those attacks determine the winner, and the only way for someone to win in a three player game, is for someone to make a mistake, or chose to attack one more strongly than the other. I myself have demolished one player all game, to insure they are never a threat, and possibly gain the opportunity to take them out for cards. It doesnt feel fair, but its not a personal attack, its a strategic attack. You cant win all of these. You will get demoloished by a player occasionally. But as long as in the next one they dont do it again, its nothing to be concerned about. If monaco played 20 games with semp, and semp won all of them, obviously something would be up. But since hes just trying to win the tourney...its all part of the game.

[Wisse]

move this to the flame wars plz

[AAFitz]

move this to the flame wars plz

Its not a flame. Its a discussion about how game play relates to cheating or not cheating.

It is an interesting case at that in my opinion. And Im kind of interested to see what others think too. But even Koe isnt necessarily flaming monoco...hes asking for input, though its close.

[podge]

Well AA you make a valid point in that it is a tourny and if you enter a tourny then the object is to try to win the tourny rather than an idividual game. I designed the tourny this way to make the players think about position rather than points. Where I will dissagree is that it would be in monaco's favor to eliminate semp as he would then progress to the next round. To me Monaco's actions make no sense whatsoever in this game and I am not for one minute suggesting he is cheating. If he has a game plan I fail to see how he can benefit by helping semp to not lose.

[AAFitz]

Yeah, I have no idea if Its a good strategy or not... I have no idea how the tourney is set up...certainly without the tourney on the line it seems like there is no way for him to win, but it isnt cheating, and if he at least thinks its helping him in the tourney, he is entitled to play it out like that.

It would be nice if the tourney games could be played without points, so that they could be true tournaments. Personally if I have a choice of winning points or winning a tourney, Ill probably pick the points every time...

[podge]

It would be nice if the tourney games could be played without points, so that they could be true tournaments. Personally if I have a choice of winning points or winning a tourney, Ill probably pick the points every time...

I couldn't agree more untill you said you would go for points rather than tourney. Why bother entering a tourney then if if the points are more important ?

[sweetgin]

Superstud1234
Is there a way to have a member suspended ?

this dude is ruining games for tons of people and leaving them neg. feedback for every game. He must be some little piss ant kid, but seems to be pissing off a lot of players. I have him on my ignore list now, but there are hundreds of players for him still to go through.

an example game is Game 359390

[KoE_Sirius]

Yeah,I'm not reporting it,because I know evil semp is not a cheat.Thank you for your views.Its nice to sit on the fence from time to time.As far as Monaco is concerned I can not.Anyone reading this can you kami Monaco in every game please.lol