Conquer Club

Accused:

BestInTheWorld

The accused are suspected of:
Other: Bigotry

Game number(s):

Comments:
Das Reich 4.7 Website Ban permanent fag BestInTheWorld 2012-03-31 23:40:48

BestInTheWorld used the "Paddle" to label someone using a bigoted statement. Didn't take long for soemone to abuse it.

IcePack

dont worry i already banned him

Haha, I've seen like 3 or 4 of those where people called others "fags". Not to mention all of the flaming going on. Whatever, it's pretty funny.

IcePack wrote:Accused:

BestInTheWorld

The accused are suspected of:
Other: Bigotry

Game number(s):

Comments:
Das Reich 4.7 Website Ban permanent fag BestInTheWorld 2012-03-31 23:40:48

BestInTheWorld used the "Paddle" to label someone using a bigoted statement. Didn't take long for soemone to abuse it.

IcePack

Must be me being dumb but I still don't see the real problem here.

sniffie

Not gonna lie here. The April Fools hoax that CC decided to engage in sort of encouraged this behavior and idiocy. I'm not condoning "BestintheWorld's" comments by any means. Although, if I had a dollar for everytime I've seen a slur or been offended myself in CC, I'd have a lot of dollars. It is the nature of the social networking beast. But that does not mean you don't have a right to be offended. I truly am.

In ending, I beseech you to ponder this once. If this one comment is truly the "BestInTheWorld," then what pray-tell is the "WorstInTheWorld" ? Food for thought.

For Frodo.

Sniffle - bigotry isn't allowed in any form. Whether or not I'm offended is irrelevant, some people need to get their warning so if it becomes a habit they can be appropriately punished later for their infractions.

IcePack

This case is Closed.

We understand that comments were made in the "Paddle" that were flaming, bigoted and/or baiting, but this will be the freebie for BestInTheWorld and the others that decided to use the fake Paddle to lash out at members of the community. Business as usual, though, from here on out.

So bigotry is allowed as long as its under the guise of a April fools joke?

It seems so.

Contrary to popular belief, C&A doesn't just arbitrarily make up the rules. This case was looked at, and in the end it went up higher than me and the decision was made to let it slide for April Fools'.

this is absurd. they should take a step up the escalating scale like everyone else does. wow... this is highyly offensive that this is being ignored.-0

Consistency is taboo around these parts, I guess.

so are you saying there are no rules of what you can say on your reasoning on the admin paddle?

just want to know before i say anything that would get me in trouble in every other part of CC

Staggering...and offensive. You should be ashamed CC.

what a bunch of crying babies.....is already removed completely!!!. The fact that 2 days after an April Joke people start to make reports, shows a worrying lack of humor

Because bigotry is funny? Others made posts that were funny without bigotry, this isn't funny to many.

Is because the context. You failed miserably the point. If someone put "fag" as a reason to fictionaly ban someone, in the frame of Aprils Joke, you shouldn´t care about the morals of that desition, if is well spoken, if it amuse you or not, because essentially is was an inane way of putting whatever someone thought at that moment, appropiate or not. Is a hole in the system if you want, which it doesn't matter anymore since is removed completely of the site already. The fact that people makes this kind of reports, just highlight something that should be already in the oblivion.

If you are offended because you read in a web site, IN APRIL'S DAMN FOOL DAY the word "fag", and then it upset you that much that leads you to make a spurious CA report, i just can tell you, that you missed the whole point.

I'm sincerely worried about your moral integrity outside CC, if you ever use internet for something else than playing risk.

Lol I never said I was offended, and I don't care about the context.

And your worried about "moral integrity" from a sinple report i made here? Seriously? Grow up and get a reality check. This is about punishment, severe infractions and consistency in reports using a system that they (the site) put in place.

Have a nice day

IcePack

Falkomagno you say it is gone but it is not it's still there when i check... that and 5 other times it has been said

Falkomagno wrote:what a bunch of crying babies.....is already removed completely!!!. The fact that 2 days after an April Joke people start to make reports, shows a worrying lack of humor

many reports were made. just because they are not in C&A doesn't mean they weren't made. and are you seriously stating that CC should not enforce the bigotry guidelines at all times? sooo, some days you can call me the N word and it is ok, but on others you can't? hmmmmm.... there needs to be consistency... they are looking at this over again, and hopefully they get it right.-el Jesus negro

Has anyone taken the time to look at BestInTheWorld's wall and see what was posted by Das Reich on 4th March? These guys are probably friends.

Pretty sorry state of affairs when a bit of fun, on a vehicle set up for that very purpose, can't be had between two mates.

i'm always conflicted about these reports.. we use a lot of words between friends and ourselves that many would be offended over... the problem on-line is the context and the way a person expected it to be taken... If you are simply offended by the word without any context whatsoever, I would say grow some thicker skin.. That said, making the report is justified, and then it's up to the mods (in my humble opinion) to investigate it further for some contextual reference... I'm not sure if one friend calls another friend a "fag" that everyone should get there bigotry radar up.... seems people nowadays look for something to get offended about, or to report someone to be vindictive (not saying this is the case here)... It would be great if everyone was pleasant all the time, but that is unfortunately not the world we live in, nor, in my opinion, will it ever be....

owenshooter wrote:

Falkomagno wrote:what a bunch of crying babies.....is already removed completely!!!. The fact that 2 days after an April Joke people start to make reports, shows a worrying lack of humor

many reports were made. just because they are not in C&A doesn't mean they weren't made. and are you seriously stating that CC should not enforce the bigotry guidelines at all times? sooo, some days you can call me the N word and it is ok, but on others you can't? hmmmmm.... there needs to be consistency... they are looking at this over again, and hopefully they get it right.-el Jesus negro

are you saying that black people don't use the N word? lol... would you be offended if two black people on this site called each other the N word? it's context, and what is expected between the two involved, no?

This case has been reviewed by the admins again due to the fact that it does, indeed, break our conduct code on bigotry. BestInTheWorld, and a few others, have received either warnings or the scaled punishment if they were past a bigotry warning.

Personally, I would like to apologize to everyone who was offended by the language used in the fake "Paddle". I should not have been so blunt and curt in my response, and I hope this does not color anyones' opinion on our work here in C&A. We DO try our best, even though it seems sometimes that we judge unfairly and/or without thought. There is always deliberation, and on many of the larger or far impacting cases, there is quite a bit of discussion before we decide anything. We respect all of the communities opinions on matters such as this, as always, and thank you for showing us that it was not acceptable even as an April Fools Day prank to let it slide.

Oi,

I realize that this case is listed as "closed", and this is my first time taking part in anything C&A, so please excuse my ignorance regarding its conduct.

But I'd just like to say that me and BestInTheWorld are indeed buds, we joke like this all the time, and I sincerely doubt he was trying to use the term "fag" in an offensive manner or in a way that would genuinely define a bigot.

Just my $0.02

Thanks,

DR

Das Reich wrote:Oi,

I realize that this case is listed as "closed", and this is my first time taking part in anything C&A, so please excuse my ignorance regarding its conduct.

But I'd just like to say that me and BestInTheWorld are indeed buds, we joke like this all the time, and I sincerely doubt he was trying to use the term "fag" in an offensive manner or in a way that would genuinely define a bigot.

Just my $0.02

Thanks,

DR

dont matter how you use the word even if your just joking it is still not ok