Conquer Club

Accused:

Louie92



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Point Dumping



Game number(s): His last 50 games.

Comments: Intentionally losing to give other people free points in speed games. He has lost over 1500 points today and is still doing it as I speak.

I have absolutely no idea why he would do this... He was once a BRIG.

Louie92 has been given a temporary 72 hour Website ban to prevent further abuse, until a full investigation has been completed.

lol

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The only game he won was against me.

Hit him hard

Correction, he was once a general.

Jdsizzleslice wrote:I have absolutely no idea why he would do this... He was once a BRIG.

McFlyGuy wrote:Correction, he was once a general.

Jdsizzleslice wrote:I have absolutely no idea why he would do this... He was once a BRIG.

Wow. Even worse... Why would he just throw away points?

2012-03-06 18:39:53 - laurent11: hi, shall we join10735601
2012-03-06 18:40:19 - Louie92: gg brah
2012-03-06 18:41:00 - laurent11: ...
2012-03-06 18:42:14 - laurent11: but do u want the doubles?
2012-03-06 18:42:43 - Louie92: nah brah
2012-03-06 18:42:56 - Louie92: im just in here to lose some points again im gettin to high up
2012-03-06 18:42:57 - Louie92: again
2012-03-06 18:44:24 - laurent11: not over yet
2012-03-06 18:45:14 - Louie92: yes it is
2012-03-06 18:45:15 - Louie92: lol
2012-03-06 18:45:23 - Louie92: u dont understand my dice this is why i join these games
2012-03-06 18:45:30 - Louie92: cause i cant win rolls when it matters
2012-03-06 18:45:34 - Louie92: like losing that 5v1
2012-03-06 18:45:39 - Louie92: to get ya undert 12
2012-03-06 18:46:00 - Louie92: but again im glad you won
2012-03-06 18:46:22 - laurent11: thanks
2012-03-06 18:47:05 - Louie92: get down in points
2012-03-06 18:47:07 - Louie92: again
2012-03-06 18:47:43 - Louie92: and the reason i dont want to join that dubs game
2012-03-06 18:47:46 - Louie92: is because
2012-03-06 18:47:50 - Louie92: classic comes down todice
2012-03-06 18:47:54 - Louie92: its not a skilled map
2012-03-06 18:48:02 - Louie92: and its boring
2012-03-06 18:48:08 - Louie92: not fun at all to be honest
2012-03-06 18:48:34 - Louie92: so once i get high in points and want to come down i come in here
[b]2012-03-06 18:48:44 - Louie92: and lose a couple to geet my points back down[/b]

Game 10735693

I hope you don't have to ban him though, he's always seemed a nice and reasonable guy and a warning surely would do the trick.

Jdsizzleslice wrote:

McFlyGuy wrote:Correction, he was once a general.

Jdsizzleslice wrote:I have absolutely no idea why he would do this... He was once a BRIG.

Wow. Even worse... Why would he just throw away points?

Because points mean NOTHING. Look at pit, with a score that high you would expect better okay from him, its a shame the disappointment he's caused to the CC community =p

TheForgivenOne wrote:Louie92 has been given a temporary 72 hour Website ban to prevent further abuse, until a full investigation has been completed.

also louie did not lose to one individual he lost to a bunch of random people on doodle assiasian games and 1v1 not against one person over and over agian so i dont see the issue if he did not lose all of his points to one person. since he wasnt benitfiting anyone in particular

Technically he didnt do anything wrong, I mean, He did take all his turns from what i know... the rules are kinda foggy in this area but getting rid of Louie will make me sad.. and You DONT WANT ME SAD!
no seriously... lets let him go.
maybe a punishment is due,
like maybe,
his premium back.
That would do the trick.

throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.
this is your guys rule. he did not throw any games. he played 8 man assisian games where he didnt have a very likely chance of winning. was probably tired of worrying about points after making it all the way up to general. if you have ever made it that high you know what i mean. so louie decided to enjoy the game and play multiple games at once because if you look at his classic games he was playing 5 or 6 at a time with one minute turns while making almost every turn. so he did not have much time to think about moves thus making mistakes and losing them. he did not lose all of his games to one person. no one individual gained from this. you are going to ban louie for just having fun instead of taking the points on this site so serious. seems wrong to ban someone for having fun while harming no one in the process.

and tfo the person who accused louie of point dumping is pitrules who has foed louie. so the person of accusing louie of abusing the system already doesnt like him so i believe that should be taken into consideration as well.

"quick update on louie92, hes now a 3 striper lol... my point ljex is that this moron continues to brag about how much better he is than me, yet he is more unstable than anyone on this site.. when you lose 1000+ points in a day it's not about skill, it's about losing your head. Now I know he will say "im just playing games for fun, i dont care about points" but honestly, he is just humiliating himself as usual. "

this right here is just one of the many comments that pitrules has said about louie tfo.

And you're on the same clan and obviously a friend of Louie's? Just sayin'

(Lol, obviously that's a non-issue considering tfo was able to be free from material bias after banning lou while being a fellow bofm member as well)

louie is a nice guy, what he is doing doesnt drirectly benefit one person and he took most turns.

jsnyder748 wrote:louie is a nice guy, what he is doing doesnt drirectly benefit one person and he took most turns.

+1

I joined 1 classic game with him just to see whats up. Here is the complete chat in game...........2012-03-11 21:45:31 - GeneralRisk: I joined to see whats up with u and your rank R u leaving CC??
2012-03-11 21:46:11 - Louie92: gg brah ............I won but cannot really say for sure he threw the game. At the end I made sure to look at his 4 card spoils to see if he held back playing a set....esc game,,,,,,,,,,,,,,his spoils were 2 pair.

Being a "nice guy" doesn't matter when you make a statement saying you want to dump your points. The issue here is whether the hunters decide that his statement with actions is worth a punishment or if they think he played enough turns to not be punished. I personally think that he created an environment where he knew he couldn't play all the games well and had the goal of dumping points.

Night Strike wrote:Being a "nice guy" doesn't matter when you make a statement saying you want to dump your points. The issue here is whether the hunters decide that his statement with actions is worth a punishment or if they think he played enough turns to not be punished. I personally think that he created an environment where he knew he couldn't play all the games well and had the goal of dumping points.

why is losing points an issue here? when he went up 500 points in a day playing speed games there was no issue or anything said. so why does losing points considered abuse? it makes no logical sense when he did not benefit anyone player. if someone goes down in rank and helps no one in particular while taking most of his turns doing so then what excatly is the issue??? i see the issue of losing points if they lose it all to one or two people helping them make rank. or if he were to do it and deadbeat all his turns. but he did not do either. he played games took his turns and lost. since when is losing points and losing games against the rules? there always has to be a winner and a loser. why not give everyone a ban that loses points then? he is helping no one. he only has like 16 active games with many different partners so its not like he took a point dive with 50 or 60 active games with only one or two partners to help them gain rank. if he had done this then i see an issue. but he played games. did not benifit himself or anyone else. so why is there an issue. he choose to enjoy the site more by playing games that are more enjoyable and the cc mods in return for him having fun at no elses expense or gain ban him for 72 hours and take away his premium what sense does this make?

McFlyGuy wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Being a "nice guy" doesn't matter when you make a statement saying you want to dump your points. The issue here is whether the hunters decide that his statement with actions is worth a punishment or if they think he played enough turns to not be punished. I personally think that he created an environment where he knew he couldn't play all the games well and had the goal of dumping points.

why is losing points an issue here? when he went up 500 points in a day playing speed games there was no issue or anything said. so why does losing points considered abuse? it makes no logical sense when he did not benefit anyone player. if someone goes down in rank and helps no one in particular while taking most of his turns doing so then what excatly is the issue??? i see the issue of losing points if they lose it all to one or two people helping them make rank. or if he were to do it and deadbeat all his turns. but he did not do either. he played games took his turns and lost. since when is losing points and losing games against the rules? there always has to be a winner and a loser. why not give everyone a ban that loses points then? he is helping no one. he only has like 16 active games with many different partners so its not like he took a point dive with 50 or 60 active games with only one or two partners to help them gain rank. if he had done this then i see an issue. but he played games. did not benifit himself or anyone else. so why is there an issue. he choose to enjoy the site more by playing games that are more enjoyable and the cc mods in return for him having fun at no elses expense or gain ban him for 72 hours and take away his premium what sense does this make?

Someone is taking his turns because he is in 3 dubs games with me and codierose and so someone took louie92 turns today

GeneralRisk wrote:

McFlyGuy wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Being a "nice guy" doesn't matter when you make a statement saying you want to dump your points. The issue here is whether the hunters decide that his statement with actions is worth a punishment or if they think he played enough turns to not be punished. I personally think that he created an environment where he knew he couldn't play all the games well and had the goal of dumping points.

why is losing points an issue here? when he went up 500 points in a day playing speed games there was no issue or anything said. so why does losing points considered abuse? it makes no logical sense when he did not benefit anyone player. if someone goes down in rank and helps no one in particular while taking most of his turns doing so then what excatly is the issue??? i see the issue of losing points if they lose it all to one or two people helping them make rank. or if he were to do it and deadbeat all his turns. but he did not do either. he played games took his turns and lost. since when is losing points and losing games against the rules? there always has to be a winner and a loser. why not give everyone a ban that loses points then? he is helping no one. he only has like 16 active games with many different partners so its not like he took a point dive with 50 or 60 active games with only one or two partners to help them gain rank. if he had done this then i see an issue. but he played games. did not benifit himself or anyone else. so why is there an issue. he choose to enjoy the site more by playing games that are more enjoyable and the cc mods in return for him having fun at no elses expense or gain ban him for 72 hours and take away his premium what sense does this make?

Someone is taking his turns because he is in 3 dubs games with me and codierose and so someone took louie92 turns today

so you are saying he should have to deadbeat?

mcflyguy, now that Louie92 is low rated, he can play doubles games and help his partner win a lot of points by playing speed games. It's just not fair. And yes, I do have Louie92 foe'd but how does that relate to him breaking the rules?

kylegraves1 wrote:

GeneralRisk wrote:

McFlyGuy wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Being a "nice guy" doesn't matter when you make a statement saying you want to dump your points. The issue here is whether the hunters decide that his statement with actions is worth a punishment or if they think he played enough turns to not be punished. I personally think that he created an environment where he knew he couldn't play all the games well and had the goal of dumping points.

why is losing points an issue here? when he went up 500 points in a day playing speed games there was no issue or anything said. so why does losing points considered abuse? it makes no logical sense when he did not benefit anyone player. if someone goes down in rank and helps no one in particular while taking most of his turns doing so then what excatly is the issue??? i see the issue of losing points if they lose it all to one or two people helping them make rank. or if he were to do it and deadbeat all his turns. but he did not do either. he played games took his turns and lost. since when is losing points and losing games against the rules? there always has to be a winner and a loser. why not give everyone a ban that loses points then? he is helping no one. he only has like 16 active games with many different partners so its not like he took a point dive with 50 or 60 active games with only one or two partners to help them gain rank. if he had done this then i see an issue. but he played games. did not benifit himself or anyone else. so why is there an issue. he choose to enjoy the site more by playing games that are more enjoyable and the cc mods in return for him having fun at no elses expense or gain ban him for 72 hours and take away his premium what sense does this make?

Someone is taking his turns because he is in 3 dubs games with me and codierose and so someone took louie92 turns today

so you are saying he should have to deadbeat?

No, was just surprised a website vacationer is taking turns during his vacation. Something that doesnt make any sense to me.

im in a quads and triples with him right now, he is the stack in both. I can guarantee he is not doing this to benefit any of us with points. I really do not want him banned and i hope he continues to take turns in these games.

McFlyGuy wrote:

Jdsizzleslice wrote:

McFlyGuy wrote:Correction, he was once a general.

Jdsizzleslice wrote:I have absolutely no idea why he would do this... He was once a BRIG.

Wow. Even worse... Why would he just throw away points?

Because points mean NOTHING. Look at pit, with a score that high you would expect better okay from him, its a shame the disappointment he's caused to the CC community =p

And countless high ranking people as well...