Conquer Club

Accused:

blitzaholic
RobGriffioen



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Comments: this is either multi, or he/she knows each other. its too much of a coincidence that ALL of the following are applicable:
a) RobGriffioen does not chat at all in team games, what so ever
b) RobGriffioen makes moves purposely to make blitz and his teammates win every single time. (attacks teammates, neutrals, etc). for a person that has played over 2000 games, this kind of play is absolutely fake and dishonest.
c) They have played 44 games against each other and blitz has NEVER lost a single one. We know strategy is involved in CC but so are the dice and to have someone dominant against one person has to raise red flags.
d) they have also played on the same team and have won, which doesnt say much for the odds, but adds to the fact that they may be the same person or know each other
e) blitz is known for this type of bullshit in the past AKA farming, so adds to suspicions

this should really be looked into. i dont participate in forums, or raise drama on this website because i play for fun. but i also play with honesty, and if i see something suspicious im going to report it. plus this blitz guy/girl has been around the block when it comes to this type of stuff, so i just wanted to call it out.

Could you post a couple of examples of games to look at?

Doubtful... cooks will be cooks

wow here we go again....damn man could you not have waited till the GLG case was decided..

two high profile cases at the same time is one to many.....you got to keep the people wanting more....

anyway good luck...

Jalen and I learned about the Rob guy at the same time. Definitely something fishy about that guy...multi or not

Game 10634314

I would just say a shitty player and nothing more.

Commander62890 wrote:Doubtful... cooks will be cooks

The guy has over 2000 games completed. His profile is here

Definitely worth a look, and not exactly doubtful. Dude looks dodgy as hell.

He has over 2000 games completed and has silver medals in team categories. Something's up.

never mind the profile what about the wall comments... I am thinking just looking at this is that robgri could be the new version of what happened with jobiwan.

are you going to read the chat in our dubs game? You are a terrible partner, why even set games up if you aren't going to talk?

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by Gunn217
on Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:17 pm

agree with the dude below, you are useless in game chat. thanks for the games.

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by jalen45
on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:44 am

Yea even with the crappiest dice on CC the odds would have been he would have won a few of these, Blitz are you not going to learn even though you are not the conqueror,you will always be under the microscope.

people need to realize that this guy is a cook after 2000+ games that probably means he is not very good at the game. Do we really see a problem that blitz one of the better team game players on the site has won 45 games against this guy who lets be honest is not very good playing with random teammates who just like him most of the time are probably not very good.

You say this seems fishy...what is fishy to me is that the vast majority of posters in this thread think blitz would create a multi and play 2000+ games with the guy to join 45 of them by himself to win. That seems like a great deal of effort to go through for a measly few hundred points when we all know that he could be higher than his current score. Im sure you could find a lot of players out there who have gone undefeated vs a single player for a large number of games like that, for one reason...they are better than the opponent not because they are multis.

ljex wrote:people need to realize that this guy is a cook after 2000+ games that probably means he is not very good at the game. Do we really see a problem that blitz one of the better team game players on the site has won 45 games against this guy who lets be honest is not very good playing with random teammates who just like him most of the time are probably not very good.

You say this seems fishy...what is fishy to me is that the vast majority of posters in this thread think blitz would create a multi and play 2000+ games with the guy to join 45 of them by himself to win. That seems like a great deal of effort to go through for a measly few hundred points when we all know that he could be higher than his current score. I'm sure you could find a lot of players out there who have gone undefeated vs a single player for a large number of games like that, for one reason...they are better than the opponent not because they are multis.

What an odd post. You're definitely in the minority if you've jumped to Blitz' defense against an imaginary vast majority of posters. It hasn't even left the first page yet.

And most of those posters have been talking about the obviously dodgy account.

I don't know if Rob's a multi. Just seems strange to keep playing dubs games and not even trying to win. Whatever tools are at the mod's disposal will show what he is. Maybe just the worst CC player in history.

ljex wrote:people need to realize that this guy is a cook after 2000+ games that probably means he is not very good at the game. Do we really see a problem that blitz one of the better team game players on the site has won 45 games against this guy who lets be honest is not very good playing with random teammates who just like him most of the time are probably not very good.

You say this seems fishy...what is fishy to me is that the vast majority of posters in this thread think blitz would create a multi and play 2000+ games with the guy to join 45 of them by himself to win. That seems like a great deal of effort to go through for a measly few hundred points when we all know that he could be higher than his current score. Im sure you could find a lot of players out there who have gone undefeated vs a single player for a large number of games like that, for one reason...they are better than the opponent not because they are multis.

Wow we agree!

Gunn217 wrote:I don't know if Rob's a multi. Just seems strange to keep playing dubs games and not even trying to win. Whatever tools are at the mod's disposal will show what he is. Maybe just the worst CC player in history.

Bruceswar wrote:I would just say a shitty player and nothing more.

These flames are uncalled for... Dont hurt the kid's feelings.
How do you guys know that Rob wasnt once a good player and just deferred wins to blitz or just doesnt care about winning?

It's probably more Blitz seeing how shitty this guy is and always looking for open games with him.

Not cheating, but shows how pathetic Blitz is for seeking out this cook to get easy wins, a few points, and bumping up his win percentage.

Well this is getting interesting- more and more high ranking players piling in to defend "RobGriffioen", or "Rob" has he's known by those who have no knowledge of him and should not in any way be construed as having any degree of familiarity with him.

Symmetry wrote:Well this is getting interesting- more and more high ranking players piling in to defend "RobGriffioen", or "Rob" has he's known by those who have no knowledge of him and should not in any way be construed as having any degree of familiarity with him.

and yet you have a degree of familiarity with him to say that he is a multi of blitz? sure people are jumping to blitz's defense because this is perhaps the worst logic ever for accusing someone of creating a multi. Game throwing or whatever you want to call it...maybe there is a small chance, i dont see it but the possibility exists. But to say he is blitz's multi because blitz has won 45 games vs him when the dude has played 2000+ win a win % of <30 is just downright ridiculous. Why would blitz play 2000 games just to win 45 of them? the accuser says this guy doesnt chat and makes bad moves vs blitz...well has he played any games with this player not vs blitz? i would be willing to bet it is the same exact thing from rob in the other games as well.

You guys can say this looks fishy all you want but why would blitz make a multi when he can just go back to quads manual pelo war and get the points that way without risking a ban?

ljex wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Well this is getting interesting- more and more high ranking players piling in to defend "RobGriffioen", or "Rob" has he's known by those who have no knowledge of him and should not in any way be construed as having any degree of familiarity with him.

and yet you have a degree of familiarity with him to say that he is a multi of blitz? sure people are jumping to blitz's defense because this is perhaps the worst logic ever for accusing someone of creating a multi. Game throwing or whatever you want to call it...maybe there is a small chance, i dont see it but the possibility exists. But to say he is blitz's multi because blitz has won 45 games vs him when the dude has played 2000+ win a win % of <30 is just downright ridiculous. Why would blitz play 2000 games just to win 45 of them? the accuser says this guy doesnt chat and makes bad moves vs blitz...well has he played any games with this player not vs blitz? i would be willing to bet it is the same exact thing from rob in the other games as well.

You guys can say this looks fishy all you want but why would blitz make a multi when he can just go back to quads manual pelo war and get the points that way without risking a ban?

One of the odd facets of this thread is that their wasn't really any discussion of Blitz in the responses until you accused the "vast majority of posters on this thread" of accusing him of something. I've said nothing on the Blitz front, except that I find it odd to see a bunch of high ranking players wade in simultaneously.

D00MandD3A7H wrote:

Gunn217 wrote:I don't know if Rob's a multi. Just seems strange to keep playing dubs games and not even trying to win. Whatever tools are at the mod's disposal will show what he is. Maybe just the worst CC player in history.

Bruceswar wrote:I would just say a shitty player and nothing more.

These flames are uncalled for... Dont hurt the kid's feelings.
How do you guys know that Rob wasnt once a good player and just deferred wins to blitz or just doesnt care about winning?

Not trying to hurt his feelings. He doesn't even try to win. I sent him a PM before the game started to introduce myself and to urge him to use the chat and play as a team. He never responded, never used or read the chat (that I could tell), and never deployed or reinforced me. Why set up 30 dubs games and not play as a team? Something is up.

I'm not suggesting Blitz has anything to do with it. It's likely he's just a poaching opportunist, which isn't against the rules.

Maybe next time let the mob violence get off the first page before you start talking about "vast majority" of posters, Ijex.

jgordon1111 wrote:Yea even with the crappiest dice on CC the odds would have been he would have won a few of these, Blitz are you not going to learn even though you are not the conqueror,you will always be under the microscope.

Do you all honestly believe blitz, as high profile and as closely monitored as he is, is going to have a multi AND blatantly dump points to himself with it?

jefjef wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:Yea even with the crappiest dice on CC the odds would have been he would have won a few of these, Blitz are you not going to learn even though you are not the conqueror,you will always be under the microscope.

Do you all honestly believe blitz, as high profile and as closely monitored as he is, is going to have a multi AND blatantly dump points to himself with it?

And a multi who joined in 2009? hmm

Playing 2000 games with a multi just to play 45? Yikes! I'm hoping this is not true...and if it is...someone should get Blitzy help in RL!

i posted about this almost a week ago in the GD... and i asked a mod to look into it and he had already begun it when this sprang up. i didn't want to have another high profile case, and boom, here it is! glad others are taking note of garbage like this. "ranching" or whatever this is in the BEST CASE scenario, is still a problem. if this is another multi situation, CC has a big decision to make.-el Jesus negro

Subject: General Congratulations

owenshooter wrote:congrats to blitzaholics new mark RobGriffioen... a little game searched turned up the same old results... congrats to CC for letting things go on as they always have!!!-el Jesus negro