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bcheng1988 and Sameereemas are pssoible multis [cleared]

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:30 pm
by tke_29
the two have played multiple team games together and in the last one left feedback for each other as if they played together for the 1st time and have now started an assassin game...please investigate

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:50 pm
by bcheng1988
Honestly, just think about what you're suggesting -- if we were multis (or rather, if I owned both of these accounts), then we'd be playing standard games together and making secret alliances rather than playing in doubles games, where the two players are supposed to work together.

As for the feedback we left for each other, do your research. The feedback left was for the first game completed in which we teamed with each other (check the date/time -- I'm assuming that if you have enough time on your hands to make ridiculous reports like this, you'd have enough time to get the facts straight). As you astutely pointed out, we've played in/finished several games since then. So how exactly is this against the rules?

I can think of better and more plausible reasons for which why you lost that game, so this straw man technique isn't going to work. Notice how no one else from that game is complaining, and how no one else from any of our other four games has ever complained about us? I do, however, want this investigation to proceed if only to help you sleep at night.


EDIT:
You didn't even do your research about the format of reports! To help the investigators along, here's the game that tke is concerned about:
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=334064

And here are all the other games in which Sameer and I have played together (btw, yes, we do know each other in real life, but we live a few hundred miles apart from each other):
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=345591
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=335479
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=331782
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=324960

The new Assasins game that we've started is #346399


EDIT #2:
I think a public apology is in order once we're cleared (especially for the questionable use of the feedback system -- you conceded that it was a great game, but decided that your "suspicions," which you did not even qualify with reason or evidence, justified giving worse feedback than we deserved). I also ask the investigator to remove tke_29's feedback from our records once we're cleared, as the "suspicions" are clearly unfounded and libellous.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:32 pm
by AK_iceman
Fill out the form and it will be looked at.

Re: bcheng1988 and Sameereemas are pssoible multis

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:16 pm
by bcheng1988
I'll fill it out for him, just to get this moving along. tke_29's abusive use of the feedback system has deterred other players from playing with Sameer and me (we started a new game some time ago and no one has joined), and the sooner we're cleared and those feedback comments are removed, the better.

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These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: bcheng1988 and sameereemas

Game number:
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=334064 (main one in question)
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=345591
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=335479
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=331782
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=324960

Comments:
tke_29 wrote:the two have played multiple team games together and in the last one left feedback for each other as if they played together for the 1st time and have now started an assassin game...please investigate



bcheng1988 on behalf of tke_29

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i'll apologize

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:54 am
by tke_29
because i have neither the time nor do i care i will apologize to the TWO players and agree that my feedback should be removed from the two. They are good players and played a hell of a team game. I would rather just come back and beat them then argue it out with admins of CC. good game to you both.

sorry

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:38 am
by tke_29
ONCE AGAIN I RETRACT ALL STATEMENTS ABOUT THE TWO PLAYERS AND APOLOGIZE FOR IT. I AM EVEN ENTERING THERE ASSASSIN GAME AND HOPE OTHERS WILL TOO

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:14 pm
by bcheng1988
Well, I don't want to discourage people from reporting seemingly suspicious behaviour, as I believe that this is necessary to make the game more enjoyable and to improve the game in the long run.

My main grievances, as I previously mentioned, were the lack of research done (or simply poor communication of evidence/reasoning) and the use of the feedback system before giving the investigators and us, the accused, a chance to look into the complaint.

If the investigators would like to continue with this case, I'm here to cooperate, as I have been doing in the past. I would also like to thank tke_29 for retracting the feedback in question and confirm that he has voluntarily removed the feedback.


tke_29, I've left a well-deserved positive feedback for you, as you are a respectable player. I look forward to playing you again in that new game. If you feel that it'd be advisable for Sameer and I to announce at the beginning of games in which we both take part that we know each other in real life, please let me know. Cheers.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:32 pm
by Anarkistsdream
PM me bcheng....

I'll play in those games with you....

I don't give a shit about bad feedback, if you can type properly and have good grammar...

Let me know.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:31 am
by AK_iceman
bcheng1988 and sameereemas are cleared of multiple accounts.