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Accused:

Dusty21
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The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: Point dumping and teammate killing and deadbeatinng



Game number(s):

[game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=10660142[/game]
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Comments:Dickhead suicides his troops killing his teammates troops in the process and drops 2 ranks in a 15 min time frame...continues to attack his partner using troops forted to him by his partner

I looked a a few of his recent speed games and he is attacking neutrals or nothing at all

GeneralRisk wrote:
Accused:

Dusty21



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Point duping and teammate killing and dead beating



Game number(s):

Game 10660142


Comments: Dusty21 suicides his troops killing his teammates troops in the process and drops 2 ranks in a 15 min time frame...continues to attack his partner using troops forted to him by his partner

I looked a a few of his recent speed games and he is attacking neutrals or nothing at all

Cleaned up form for you. Also corrected the spelling of his name. Guess your auto spell check changed it to dickhead.

jefjef wrote:

GeneralRisk wrote:
Accused:

Dusty21



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Point duping and teammate killing and dead beating



Game number(s):

Game 10660142


Comments: Dusty21 suicides his troops killing his teammates troops in the process and drops 2 ranks in a 15 min time frame...continues to attack his partner using troops forted to him by his partner

I looked a a few of his recent speed games and he is attacking neutrals or nothing at all

Cleaned up form for you. Also corrected the spelling of his name. Guess your auto spell check changed it to dickhead.

Thanx

I have given Dusty21 a Temporary 72 Hour Website Ban until it can be reviewed by the Hunters.

lol.

So you banned him BEFORE you rule on it? So what happens if he is found not guilty?

I'm pretty sure he's guilty on this one.... But Evolution brings up a good point, what if he's found not guilty?

It sure looks like he is guilty, but the point I was making is that TFO is punishing him for nothing at this point.

I thought these new MH's were supposed to help clean up the image that the Hunters have gotten. It seems that the status quo has remained in tactic.

after the commander case they stated that any account looking like it is dumping points will be temp suspended.. this is to protect him just as much as other players joining his games. if he sends a email and it looks like it wasn't him dumping (something tfo could not see until a hunter (orange colour) comes online) his account will be removed from the ban.

Evolution299 wrote:It sure looks like he is guilty, but the point I was making is that TFO is punishing him for nothing at this point.

I thought these new MH's were supposed to help clean up the image that the Hunters have gotten. It seems that the status quo has remained in tactic.

Well points were definately dumped, the investigation is who dumped them. If its the account owner or someone who has got in. As the pattern of play is definately not normal for the player. Suspending the account prevents anything else happening while the investigation is carried out. Becareful pre-judging investigations or the accused.

cookie0117 wrote:

Evolution299 wrote:It sure looks like he is guilty, but the point I was making is that TFO is punishing him for nothing at this point.

I thought these new MH's were supposed to help clean up the image that the Hunters have gotten. It seems that the status quo has remained in tactic.

Well points were definately dumped, the investigation is who dumped them. If its the account owner or someone who has got in. As the pattern of play is definately not normal for the player. Suspending the account prevents anything else happening while the investigation is carried out. Becareful pre-judging investigations or the accused.

Yeah, I guess you're right cookie. Innocent until proven guilty.
I mean, geez the MH's haven't been involved in anything underhanded since...

Evolution299 wrote:It sure looks like he is guilty, but the point I was making is that TFO is punishing him for nothing at this point.

I thought these new MH's were supposed to help clean up the image that the Hunters have gotten. It seems that the status quo has remained in tactic.

It appears to me that you are doing exactly what you are accusing us of. TFO did the right thing the way these games were going. In cases like this we take a look at the games in question and then suspend the account in case it was hijacked or point dumping.

Taking a look.

You're right ES. And if you look above your post, you will see I already acknowledged that.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Evolution299 wrote:You're right ES. And if you look above your post, you will see I already acknowledged that.

Innocent until proven guilty.

The full quote from you.

Evolution299 wrote:Yeah, I guess you're right cookie. Innocent until proven guilty.
I mean, geez the MH's haven't been involved in anything underhanded since...

And I don't think you can argue the last statement. Although the last statement had nothing to do with your previous post.

Anywho, good luck with the ruling.

I have played quite some games with Dusty, and it seems very strange to me. The behavior of the player in the game is not normal (like someone else is account sitting for Dusty)
Have you guys ever concidered that CC accounts can be hacked like fora got hacked?
Sometimes it's so abvious ...

lucbra wrote:I have played quite some games with Dusty, and it seems very strange to me. The behavior of the player in the game is not normal (like someone else is account sitting for Dusty)
Have you guys ever concidered that CC accounts can be hacked like fora got hacked?
Sometimes it's so abvious ...

And what should we do? Let the account continue to be hacked? Or suspend it until it can be investigated?

I don't know - has CC contacted dusty through email? And has he responded?
It should be investigated - and if I understand well - this is ongoing?

Dusty21's account has been reactivated. The account was taken over by another person. Let this be a reminder to protect your password and change it often.

Thanks to the players who defended me. It appears that an imposter accessed my account and signed up for about 20 speed games and 15 regular games. He tried to play some of them I guess and ultimately got kicked out of each of them by missing turns. One team game the imposter signed up for was actually won by his teammate who pulled it out on his own after the imposter was kicked out for missing turns.

The imposter has been identified and banned.

CC locked up my account and I was unable to post any chat or read my emails. I was able to continue playing the games that I was enrolled in. I did not play in any of the regular (24 hour games) the imposter enrolled me in, hoping my status and rank would be returned to me after the investigation was completed.

My premium status has been returned. I am told my rank will not be returned. I was a Captain with 1928 points. Now I am a Corporal with 1199 points.

Thanks again to Cookie0117 and Evolution299 for defending me on the forum.

Thanks to King Achilles for resolving this unfortunate issue.

No problem and glad the problem is resolved, even if it has cost alot of points. I have played games with you and it did not seem like something you would do, also the pattern of play was wildly different from your normal play. The mods were right to suspend the account as it prevents further damage.

Too many people look at the first thing they see and fly off shouting and wanting blood before the facts have been looked at. The C & A mods on this site have a hard job, having to deal with all the noise while they investigate.

It was obvious in this case that IP checks would show who had logged on and started the games. Im glad its back to business as usual and a case where cleared means completely innocent.