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arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Noted]TFO

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:12 pm
by Condin
Accused:

arp3ggi0
Silvrdragoon




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis and
Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 10539429
Game 10539481


Comments: Seem to know each other as they play several games together.
However the problem lies that no one else who plays their games seem to win apart from the people in question. They also seem to go on and offline at the same time as well as taking their turns almost immediately after one another.
In my game Game 10539429 they are focusing more on me with green not attacking red as he has left only 1 troop on the border and merely attacking me. I have played on CC for over a year now and I have never been so convinced of Multiple accounts/secret diplomacy in my time of playing.
Hope you find the answer soon.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and secret diplomacies

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:03 am
by Condin
Is anyone even investigating?

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and secret diplomacies

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:08 am
by trinicardinal
sometimes it takes a little time for the C&A mods to get time to investigate it. Remember they are doing this in their spare time and sometimes rl gets in the way. Be assured that it will be investigated.

on a side note they also seem to have joined the site within a minute of each other

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and secret diplomacies

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:10 am
by Condin
Thanks just didn't know what the routine was, first time inquiring and all :) much appreciate

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and secret diplomacies

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:27 am
by deathcomesrippin
Very nice report, btw.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and secret diplomacies

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:38 am
by Condin
Thank you. not going to lie though, I had to edit it once or twice haha

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and secret diplomacies

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:32 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Pending.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:03 pm
by arp3ggi0
Hello, arp3ggi0 here.

Silvrdragoon and I work together in the same office, so that might be why we appear to be playing at similar times, and it's also why we are in all of the same games. To be honest, Condin, your slot was supposed to go to another coworker of ours (dahlgren), but he wasn't fast enough.

As to the claim of secret diplomacy, well we might be guilty of that. Stupid of me for not reading the rules closely ahead of time, and I apologize. If you find that we have violated that rule, I will accept any form of discipline.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:08 pm
by TheGeneral2112
arp3ggi0 wrote:Hello, arp3ggi0 here.

Silvrdragoon and I work together in the same office, so that might be why we appear to be playing at similar times, and it's also why we are in all of the same games. To be honest, Condin, your slot was supposed to go to another coworker of ours (dahlgren), but he wasn't fast enough.

As to the claim of secret diplomacy, well we might be guilty of that. Stupid of me for not reading the rules closely ahead of time, and I apologize. If you find that we have violated that rule, I will accept any form of discipline.


There is no might be guilty here.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:40 pm
by Evolution299
Actually by looking at the game, there is very little sign of SD. They all seem to be attacking eachother. Unless one of the 2 comes right out and states "YES" there was SD I think this will either be noted or at worst maybe a warning.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:56 pm
by TheGeneral2112
Evolution299 wrote:Actually by looking at the game, there is very little sign of SD. They all seem to be attacking eachother. Unless one of the 2 comes right out and states "YES" there was SD I think this will either be noted or at worst maybe a warning.


>reread

He said they might be guilty of SD.

Admission much?

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:06 pm
by Silvrdragoon
What arp3ggi0 meant by we might be guilty of SD is that we work in the same office and sit across from each other. We are going to talk about the game. We are new to this so we are not sure if that is a violation to the rules of SD, so we might be invoilation of it, cause we are talking about the game and not putting it in the game chat.
If you would look at the log for the game we are playing with Condin you will see that except for my last run, which i thought with luck i could take him out, I attacked Conidn 12 times and arp3ggi0 10 times. Also arp3ggi0 has attacked me more than he has attacked Condin, 3 attacks against Condin and 14 against me. Please tell me how that is a secret diplomacy

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:17 pm
by TheGeneral2112
Silvrdragoon wrote:What arp3ggi0 meant by we might be guilty of SD is that we work in the same office and sit across from each other. We are going to talk about the game. We are new to this so we are not sure if that is a violation to the rules of SD, so we might be invoilation of it, cause we are talking about the game and not putting it in the game chat.
If you would look at the log for the game we are playing with Condin you will see that except for my last run, which i thought with luck i could take him out, I attacked Conidn 12 times and arp3ggi0 10 times. Also arp3ggi0 has attacked me more than he has attacked Condin, 3 attacks against Condin and 14 against me. Please tell me how that is a secret diplomacy


That is how. Because you have an advantage that other players don't. You are able to discuss the game outside of game chat, IN PERSON, which you just admitted.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:30 pm
by aad0906
arp3ggi0 wrote:Hello, arp3ggi0 here.

Silvrdragoon and I work together in the same office, so that might be why we appear to be playing at similar times, and it's also why we are in all of the same games. To be honest, Condin, your slot was supposed to go to another coworker of ours (dahlgren), but he wasn't fast enough.

As to the claim of secret diplomacy, well we might be guilty of that. Stupid of me for not reading the rules closely ahead of time, and I apologize. If you find that we have violated that rule, I will accept any form of discipline.


This has happened before on CC, friends playing games with each other and than accidentally an outsider joins. What you guys should do is make it a private game with a password. That way nobody else will join. If strangers join and you talk strategy on the workfloor, you're indeed bordering on SD allthough it will be hard to prove. You guys are very open and honest about it so I hope you'll get away with a warning.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Pending]TFO

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:45 pm
by Silvrdragoon
TheGeneral2112 wrote:
That is how. Because you have an advantage that other players don't. You are able to discuss the game outside of game chat, IN PERSON, which you just admitted.


aad0906 wrote:
This has happened before on CC, friends playing games with each other and than accidentally an outsider joins. What you guys should do is make it a private game with a password. That way nobody else will join. If strangers join and you talk strategy on the workfloor, you're indeed bordering on SD all though it will be hard to prove. You guys are very open and honest about it so I hope you'll get away with a warning.


We are not talking strategy, just talking about how the game is going, like wow just lost a fight going 14 vs 6 my luck really sucks.

Also did not know you could make private games with out being premium.

Re: arp3ggi0 and Silvrdragoon multis and SD [Noted]TFO

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:34 pm
by TheForgivenOne
I have looked through there games that involve "outsiders" from there office group. While it sometimes does appear they are teaming up, I believe there isn't enough evidence to give out a Warning or a block. So I am going to Note this report for the future in case another reports is brought up.