SaccoV & Vandal88 - multi[cleared]es

by **mccallan25** on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:46 pm

Accused:

SaccoV
Vandal88

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 10060556
Game 9980018
Game 10053259
Game 9965958
Game 9943681

Comments:

Over and over SaccoV is eliminated by Vandal88. Rarely SaccoV attacks Vandal88. The Sacco account is used to attack other players giving him an advantage in the game. Their log off times are always similar watch as I have for 6 days, it's always been within 20 minutes of each other. Their play times are usually back to back (of course most games are sequential) but rarely do people play so quickly in a game over and over in the same game let alone 6 games. One last thing that stands out is that they both use numbers at the end of their name even though one is a Roman.

by **Fuzzy316** on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:57 pm

This one was brought to my attention by mccallan25. I have to agree about the attacks pattern, and when it was stated in game 9965958 that there may be a multi-.... it was not responded to. But then of course, many players do not utilize chat.

However, Game 9980018 was a Conquer Cup game, and they could not have manually joined this particular game, it would have to have been sheer luck to be together in this one.

by **mccallan25** on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:00 pm

As soon as my game started with them it was clear that something was going on with their attacks and time stamps in a freestyle game. It takes a while to look at all 6 games but there is a clear pattern.

by **Vandal88** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:11 am

SaccoV is my brother. The V isn't a Roman numeral Einstein, it stands for Sacco Vandal. My Name is Vanzetti Vandal and 8 happens to be my favorite number. I even have him listed as a friend on this site. How about you look us up on facebook for verification if you'd like. Also SaccoV isn't my attack dog to weaken people so I can take others and him out, I just got luckier than him is those games but he beat me in the Nordic country game. Our brotherly rivalry has been strong for over 20 years and we pride ourselves in beating each other much more than defeating a sore loser like you, mccallan. Some of us are here merely to have fun playing the game we love, not for score, rank, or whatever silly medals this site awards, my brother and I actually have real medals from our combat tours while in the Marine Corps. Get a life and stop pointing fingers just because you lost, mccalan. We do try to join some games together because we like playing against each other and just because we don't suicide into each other right at the start is no crime, we both play to win. Game 9980018 was unfortunate because it meant only one of us could go on to win, but I assure you that we held back nothing from each other. I am willing to offer any type of verification necessary, as will my brother.

by **chapcrap** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:47 am

Vandal88 wrote:SaccoV is my brother. The V isn't a Roman numeral Einstein, it stands for Sacco Vandal. My Name is Vanzetti Vandal and 8 happens to be my favorite number. I even have him listed as a friend on this site. How about you look us up on facebook for verification if you'd like. Also SaccoV isn't my attack dog to weaken people so I can take others and him out, I just got luckier than him is those games but he beat me in the Nordic country game. Our brotherly rivalry has been strong for over 20 years and we pride ourselves in beating each other much more than defeating a sore loser like you, mccallan. Some of us are here merely to have fun playing the game we love, not for score, rank, or whatever silly medals this site awards, my brother and I actually have real medals from our combat tours while in the Marine Corps. Get a life and stop pointing fingers just because you lost, mccalan. We do try to join some games together because we like playing against each other and just because we don't suicide into each other right at the start is no crime, we both play to win. Game 9980018 was unfortunate because it meant only one of us could go on to win, but I assure you that we held back nothing from each other. I am willing to offer any type of verification necessary, as will my brother.

You're saying that your brother's name is Sacco Vanzetti? Like the famous trial?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacco_and_Vanzetti

by **mccallan25** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:55 am

Thank you for serving. I see a lot of fellow Marines go through my courtroom.

So you take your turn and then immediately your brother takes his. Your able to do this over a three day period in game 10060556 five times. Considering you do not attack each other in most games until the end I personally think you are breaking the rules.

by **Vandal88** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:03 am

Yes chapcrap, we are named after the famous anarchists who were put on trial in boston. Mccallan, I don't consider my brother and I playing in the same game cheating, just like I don't consider it cheating when someone plays the same game with someone they've known on this site for a long time or someone they actually know in person. I'm sure it goes on all the time. As for game 10060556, the 2 of us are on the same time zone and schedule, and since I go immediately after him if I notice it's his turn I'll call him and give him shit so he will hurry up and take his turn so I can as well.

by **hmsps** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:14 pm

If you are friends or family it is likely that you will be blocked from playing in the same game especially if you are not really attacking each other. Play team games together if you want to be in the same games.

by **mccallan25** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:41 pm

There are many guys and ladies on here that I play all the time. Well they join my games, the difference is that they do attack me and vice versa as much as possible. Team games would be the way to go for a family situation.

by **ubcman64** on Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:58 pm

hmsps wrote:If you are friends or family it is likely that you will be blocked from playing in the same game especially if you are not really attacking each other. Play team games together if you want to be in the same games.

is that really a rule?.....if so that's absurd. i have made some really good friends on this site. am i not supposed to play in games with them either?

by **TheForgivenOne** on Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:11 am

ubcman64 wrote:
hmsps wrote:If you are friends or family it is likely that you will be blocked from playing in the same game especially if you are not really attacking each other. Play team games together if you want to be in the same games.

is that really a rule?.....if so that's absurd. i have made some really good friends on this site. am i not supposed to play in games with them either?

You're generally not supposed to. If you are favouring your friends/family in multiplayer games, then you may get blocked from playing each other.