Conquer Club

Accused:

R77BZ
ngleichman




The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

9055887
9055578
8032736
7947048


Comments: R77BZ & ngleichman ngleichman has played has played 224 total games 120 of these games have been with R77BZ. I notice in some of these games there has been some attacking against 1 another but majority of them they seem to help 1 another. Not sure if you feel that this is okay or not but some of these games come down to them 2 in the end. i've only listed a few games but there are many more to add to list if needed

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doglover wrote:Accused:

R77BZ
ngleichman




The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 9055887
Game 9055578
Game 8032736
Game 7947048


Comments: R77BZ & ngleichman ngleichman has played has played 224 total games 120 of these games have been with R77BZ. I notice in some of these games there has been some attacking against 1 another but majority of them they seem to help 1 another. Not sure if you feel that this is okay or not but some of these games come down to them 2 in the end. i've only listed a few games but there are many more to add to list if needed

I took the liberty of providing you with links to the players accused and games listed. here's a list of all ngleichman's games:
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... chman&so=D

First thing I noticed was that in the beginning when these two played in the same game, they always joined right after each other. R77BZ joins first and then ngleichman follows after. I'm guessing ngleichman is R77BZ 's multi. There's something fishy about how the whole situation!

I've done some more checking and also now think multi is a option as well as they always seem too make turns together with very little time gap between them one finishes and the other starts right away the majority of the time

Gillipig wrote:I'm guessing ngleichman is R77BZ 's multi.

You guess wrong. We don't cheat. Looking forward to the moderators running the numbers and proving that.

lol the thing i find most amusing is that doglover has been on the site for 2 months,played some pretty tough maps and won,then gets his first cheat and abuse report correct on his first time,well done.hmmm

So you suspect that the player who is himself suspecting others to be multies is himself a multi. Heavy man ... So if I suspect that you are a multi that makes me someone who is suspecting that the person who is himself suspecting that someone that filed a claim of others being multies is himself a multi is a multi too. All of a sudden I feel like I'm in soviet Russia . If you suspect that doglover is a multi you can file a cheating and abuse report.

not calling him out just found it amusing that his map choices for a newbie were odd and that he won some of them against experienced players, and wildly funny that on his very first C&A post got it perfect for all intents and purposes,when there are people who have been on this sight for a long time who dont get it right. Think back on how many of the players you know who on their first post got it right.Did you Gill? I know I didnt.

jgordon1111 wrote:gets his first cheat and abuse report correct on his first time

He's got this one wrong my friend.

ngleichman wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:gets his first cheat and abuse report correct on his first time

He's got this one wrong my friend.

I think gordon meant "right" as in correctly filling out the cheating and abuse report. Sergeant first class in just 20 games is more than a little unusual but if he's naturally skilled at this it's possible to pull off.

first time i filled it out completly wrong and symmetry responsed back saying can't do nothing the way this has been filled out and gave me some tips on how to properly fill out before anyone can proceed with it any further

This is correct- I had a look at the basic report and saw some things that were worth reporting. I didn't feel happy editing this one in its original form, so I sent a PM with advice.

doglover can you give a little more detail on secret diplomacy in the game you are in? The fact that they played a lot of games together does not make secret diplomacy.

doglover wrote: Not sure if you feel that this is okay or not but some of these games come down to them 2 in the end. i've only listed a few games but there are many more to add to list if needed

I am sure some of there games come down to the two of them in the end. I looked at their games played together and it doesn't look like the win more than their fair share and the couple I looked at they were not the last two in the game where one of them won.

They are cleared of being multi's.

maybe it's just the way i think but they have admitted to being friends i personally feel that friends should either let the other players know at the start of the game or play in doubles games as a team. One of the other players in the game also said he would be leaving a rating with a secret diplomacy tag as they had several opportunities for easy breaks on regions owned by them by attacking singles left on borders but chose not to for some reason. I believe the fair ruling here is to not let these players play in games together as they have already been noted once for same thing.

doglover wrote:as they had several opportunities for easy breaks on regions owned by them by attacking singles left on borders but chose not to for some reason.

This is simply made up.

Doglover- the mods here have the tools to see exactly how the game unfolded, step by step. When they do that, they will see that Rich and I attacked each other more than anyone else attacked us. Grasping at straws here isn't helping your cause. It's clear that your only 'evidence' is the fact that we've played together before.

i'm just curious as to why your buddy rich has nothing to say here or is that there is no rich and your speaking on behalf of both of you as soon as I suspected both of you for this secret alliance you never stopped attacking each other the rest of the game and chose to allow pink to win has he also suspected you of the same thing I did which is a secret alliance

I would have thought that sense I asked for some evidence in the game that you are in against the accused you would figure I needed your help in seeing the SD, and the most you come up with is they admit to being friends. Even in your original post you didn't post your game number and two of the game numbers you posted had nothing to do with the accused. I am going to mark this CLOSED.