Conquer Club

Accused:

stevenshome
Arthas Menethil + others



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Stevenshome plays a lot of three player terminator. Amazingly, the third player (often the same player) always seems to suicide on to you. I've had suspicions re stevenshome for a long time on assdoodles, but proving cheating on those is very, very hard. This however seems fairly bang to rights. Below games have the same player (Arthas Menethil) suiciding on to player 3 to give stevenshome easy wins. My game is particularly hilarious as in a manual game, Arthas suicides on to my stack on round 1, and stevenshome pretty much gets two elims in round 1. The other games all have the other players noting the dodginess in the game chat.

Game number(s):

Game 9668527
Game 9667871
Game 9662550
Game 9608036
Game 9602614

There are many, many other examples.


Comments:

Sorry Tenebrus,

i've looked into this a bit and

although yes Arthas is a noob of a player who suicides i dont believe stevenshome is at fault at all,

they have played 17games together in total, out of which 6 are 3men games, the 3rd player won one, you eliminated a player in one of yours which is 50% of the points really. there is not foul play between them, just Arthas suiciding for kicks

Arthas is a very bad player thats all. just foe him so he cant do it again.

Game 9667871 i disagree, this noob came right at me , all of it on turn 1, didnt even hit a one of stevenshome

2011-08-30 13:01:57 - stevenshome received 3 troops for 6 regions
2011-08-30 13:01:59 - stevenshome deployed 3 troops on Austr(al)ia
2011-08-30 13:02:02 - stevenshome assaulted China from Austr(al)ia and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:02:05 - stevenshome ended the turn and got spoils
2011-08-30 13:02:29 - rbelgrod assaulted Egypt from Sarah Desert and conquered it from stevenshome
2011-08-30 13:02:32 - rbelgrod ended the turn and got spoils
2011-08-30 13:03:14 - Arthas Menethil received 3 troops for 5 regions
2011-08-30 13:03:16 - Arthas Menethil deployed 3 troops on Brazil
2011-08-30 13:03:22 - Arthas Menethil assaulted USA from Canada and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:24 - Arthas Menethil assaulted Greenland from USA and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:26 - Arthas Menethil assaulted UK from Greenland and conquered it from stevenshome
2011-08-30 13:03:28 - Arthas Menethil assaulted Europe from UK and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:34 - Arthas Menethil assaulted Egypt from Europe and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:36 - Arthas Menethil ended the turn and got spoils
2011-08-30 13:03:36 - Incrementing game to round 3
2011-08-30 13:03:36 - rbelgrod received 3 troops for 3 regions
2011-08-30 13:03:37 - rbelgrod deployed 3 troops on Sarah Desert
2011-08-30 13:03:38 - rbelgrod assaulted Europe from Sarah Desert and conquered it from Arthas Menethil
2011-08-30 13:04:20 - stevenshome received 3 troops for 5 regions
2011-08-30 13:04:22 - stevenshome deployed 3 troops on China
2011-08-30 13:04:24 - stevenshome assaulted Irakistan from China and conquered it from Arthas Menethil
2011-08-30 13:04:28 - stevenshome assaulted Arabia from Irakistan and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:31 - stevenshome assaulted Egypt from Arabia and conquered it from Arthas Menethil
2011-08-30 13:04:46 - stevenshome assaulted Conga from Egypt and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:47 - stevenshome assaulted Sarah Desert from Egypt and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:49 - stevenshome assaulted Europe from Sarah Desert and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:49 - stevenshome eliminated rbelgrod from the game
2011-08-30 13:04:49 - rbelgrod lost 16 points

I also felt something strange was going on

gibbyrfc wrote:Sorry Tenebrus,

i've looked into this a bit and

although yes Arthas is a noob of a player who suicides i dont believe stevenshome is at fault at all,

they have played 17games together in total, out of which 6 are 3men games, the 3rd player won one, you eliminated a player in one of yours which is 50% of the points really. there is not foul play between them, just Arthas suiciding for kicks

Arthas is a very bad player thats all. just foe him so he cant do it again.

Yeah, the thing I think you're overlooking is that it's not just Arthas. Take a look at a good selection of stevenshome 3 players. At least a third have the same pattern, and there's a massive volume of comments form people in the game chat basically noting the dodginess (which by itself is maybe no proof of anything, but taken as a body does indicate something). When I have more time tomorrow, I'll put up a full list, but if you spend some time digging into his 3 player games in general, it's pure dodge.

rbelgrod wrote:Game 9667871 i disagree, this noob came right at me , all of it on turn 1, didnt even hit a one of stevenshome

2011-08-30 13:01:57 - stevenshome received 3 troops for 6 regions
2011-08-30 13:01:59 - stevenshome deployed 3 troops on Austr(al)ia
2011-08-30 13:02:02 - stevenshome assaulted China from Austr(al)ia and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:02:05 - stevenshome ended the turn and got spoils
2011-08-30 13:02:29 - rbelgrod assaulted Egypt from Sarah Desert and conquered it from stevenshome
2011-08-30 13:02:32 - rbelgrod ended the turn and got spoils
2011-08-30 13:03:14 - Arthas Menethil received 3 troops for 5 regions
2011-08-30 13:03:16 - Arthas Menethil deployed 3 troops on Brazil
2011-08-30 13:03:22 - Arthas Menethil assaulted USA from Canada and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:24 - Arthas Menethil assaulted Greenland from USA and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:26 - Arthas Menethil assaulted UK from Greenland and conquered it from stevenshome
2011-08-30 13:03:28 - Arthas Menethil assaulted Europe from UK and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:34 - Arthas Menethil assaulted Egypt from Europe and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:03:36 - Arthas Menethil ended the turn and got spoils
2011-08-30 13:03:36 - Incrementing game to round 3
2011-08-30 13:03:36 - rbelgrod received 3 troops for 3 regions
2011-08-30 13:03:37 - rbelgrod deployed 3 troops on Sarah Desert
2011-08-30 13:03:38 - rbelgrod assaulted Europe from Sarah Desert and conquered it from Arthas Menethil
2011-08-30 13:04:20 - stevenshome received 3 troops for 5 regions
2011-08-30 13:04:22 - stevenshome deployed 3 troops on China
2011-08-30 13:04:24 - stevenshome assaulted Irakistan from China and conquered it from Arthas Menethil
2011-08-30 13:04:28 - stevenshome assaulted Arabia from Irakistan and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:31 - stevenshome assaulted Egypt from Arabia and conquered it from Arthas Menethil
2011-08-30 13:04:46 - stevenshome assaulted Conga from Egypt and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:47 - stevenshome assaulted Sarah Desert from Egypt and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:49 - stevenshome assaulted Europe from Sarah Desert and conquered it from rbelgrod
2011-08-30 13:04:49 - stevenshome eliminated rbelgrod from the game
2011-08-30 13:04:49 - rbelgrod lost 16 points

I also felt something strange was going on

The clown attacked you once....... why are you playing 3player games anyway banana boy? You know they just end up in tears, claws out cat fights.

The result on this will be quite interesting.

I'm not going to tell that stevenshome is cheating, but I'm really suspicious about stevenshome too, just yesterday it happened to me too and in a 3 players Classic game when stevenshome had the Oceania + Asia and the most troops, the other guy did suicide on me without any chance too kill me!

Edit: Game 9679533

The sheer volume of games in which that happens is amazing, as is the number of games where the third party notes the co-operation in game chat. I'll post up some more examples later, but its amazingly transparent.

I played in 2 games with Arthas Menethil in which he suicides in both games. Another player warned him not to suicide in both games. Stevenshome was not a player in either game.

Game 9707286

I can vouch for the fact that he wasn't cheating in this 3 player terminator....though for some reason he didnt seem too happy...

AAFitz wrote:Game 9707286

I can vouch for the fact that he wasn't cheating in this 3 player terminator....though for some reason he didnt seem too happy...

Though he states in game chat that he is going to suicide......... Sour grapes I guess.

stevenshome = WARNED
Arthas Menethil = WARNED