Conquer Club

Accused: DBo

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The accused are suspected of:

Other: Using an anti-gay slur



Game number(s):

Game 9364727


Comments: Full game log, violation in bold

2011-07-07 03:42:26 - Dibbun: quit conquering neutrals
2011-07-07 03:47:06 - DBo: hey f*ck you
2011-07-07 03:47:36 - Dibbun: slow ass noob delaying the game
2011-07-07 03:47:39 - Dibbun: be more slow if possible
2011-07-07 03:48:46 - DBo: i was securing a bonus faggot
2011-07-07 03:49:26 - Dibbun: no point retard
2011-07-07 03:49:30 - Dibbun: also reported

Dibbun wrote:Game number(s):

Game 9364727


Comments: Full game log, violation in bold

2011-07-07 03:48:46 - DBo: i was securing a bonus faggot
2011-07-07 03:49:26 - Dibbun: no point retard

Not the best idea of a comeback though?

You might as well be reported for your snide remarks about newbies with sluggish derrieres and challenged people.

Comments: Full game log, violation in bold

2011-07-07 03:42:26 - Dibbun: quit conquering neutrals
2011-07-07 03:47:06 - DBo: hey f*ck you
2011-07-07 03:47:36 - Dibbun: slow ass noob delaying the game
2011-07-07 03:47:39 - Dibbun: be more slow if possible
2011-07-07 03:48:46 - DBo: i was securing a bonus faggot
2011-07-07 03:49:26 - Dibbun: no point retard
2011-07-07 03:49:30 - Dibbun: also reported

Fixed.

Deli wrote:

Dibbun wrote:Game number(s):

Game 9364727


Comments: Full game log, violation in bold

2011-07-07 03:48:46 - DBo: i was securing a bonus faggot
2011-07-07 03:49:26 - Dibbun: no point retard

Not the best idea of a comeback though?

"Retard" does not violate the rules.

DBo's violation in bold.

Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.
Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.

retard has just been cleared for game chat.(i dont agree with it) but the word faggot is a big no no and has been warned and banned for players in the past i think this also included dbo.

what was he doing to get a bonus faggot ?

I'm just going to stick to "hypocrite" for this one.

Frop wrote:I'm just going to stick to "hypocrite" for this one.

I'd understand this if I was reporting something more subjective, like trolling, and it was preceded by troll baiting, however this was not slur baiting, it was banter acceptable under the rules until DBo crossed the line and said a word that is clearly banned. If he had responded with disrespectful statements in response to me in game chat without using a banned slur then we would not be here, so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.

Dibbun wrote:

Frop wrote:I'm just going to stick to "hypocrite" for this one.

I'd understand this if I was reporting something more subjective, like trolling, and it was preceded by troll baiting, however this was not slur baiting, it was banter acceptable under the rules until DBo crossed the line and said a word that is clearly banned. If he had responded with disrespectful statements in response to me in game chat without using a banned slur then we would not be here, so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.

I don't want to condone the use of the word "faggot", but you took it entirely out of context by suggesting it's a homophobic remark. He just wants to state you're a douche and looking at the chat log I'd have to concur.

Frop wrote:I don't want to condone the use of the word "faggot", but you took it entirely out of context by suggesting it's a homophobic remark. He just wants to state you're a douche and looking at the chat log I'd have to concur.

Out of context? Thats a stretch. Don't defend this crap. There are plenty of other names that could have been used...

jefjef wrote:

Frop wrote:I don't want to condone the use of the word "faggot", but you took it entirely out of context by suggesting it's a homophobic remark. He just wants to state you're a douche and looking at the chat log I'd have to concur.

Out of context? Thats a stretch. Don't defend this crap. There are plenty of other names that could have been used...

True enough, but why is "anti-handicapped" slur like "retard" allowed then? Are we supposed to assume the OP beats up people with Down syndrome during the weekend just like the accused is clearly picking on homosexuals in his spare time?

Frop wrote:

jefjef wrote:

Frop wrote:I don't want to condone the use of the word "faggot", but you took it entirely out of context by suggesting it's a homophobic remark. He just wants to state you're a douche and looking at the chat log I'd have to concur.

Out of context? Thats a stretch. Don't defend this crap. There are plenty of other names that could have been used...

True enough, but why is "anti-handicapped" slur like "retard" allowed then? Are we supposed to assume the OP beats up people with Down syndrome during the weekend just like the accused is clearly picking on homosexuals in his spare time?

It's not about whether or not he picks on homosexuals, not that it's relevant but I personally am not homosexual. The word "faggot" is disallowed because it carries a connotation of hatred, same as the word "nigger." You do not have to be a member of the group of people directly referenced in order to be offended by the meaning behind the word. The word "retard," in my opinion, does not carry a connotation of hatred - perhaps it is low class, uncouth, uncivilized, and rude - but that is irrelevant as well, since "retard" is permitted as legal in-game chat.

In my opinion, this report is somewhat straightforward - shit talking on both sides, then DBo crossed the line by saying a banned slur.

Dibbun wrote:

Frop wrote:

jefjef wrote:

Frop wrote:I don't want to condone the use of the word "faggot", but you took it entirely out of context by suggesting it's a homophobic remark. He just wants to state you're a douche and looking at the chat log I'd have to concur.

Out of context? Thats a stretch. Don't defend this crap. There are plenty of other names that could have been used...

True enough, but why is "anti-handicapped" slur like "retard" allowed then? Are we supposed to assume the OP beats up people with Down syndrome during the weekend just like the accused is clearly picking on homosexuals in his spare time?

It's not about whether or not he picks on homosexuals, not that it's relevant but I personally am not homosexual. The word "faggot" is disallowed because it carries a connotation of hatred, same as the word "nigger." You do not have to be a member of the group of people directly referenced in order to be offended by the meaning behind the word. The word "retard," in my opinion, does not carry a connotation of hatred - perhaps it is low class, uncouth, uncivilized, and rude - but that is irrelevant as well, since "retard" is permitted as legal in-game chat.

In my opinion, this report is somewhat straightforward - shit talking on both sides, then DBo crossed the line by saying a banned slur.

What a depressing, crappy little thread this is. I can but hope the mods censure both of you.. especially you Dibbun. I'm not all that keen on homophobia, but then I'm not the greatest fan of mocking a disability either...but I really can't stand the sort of worm that would, after behaving in such a way (and obviously taking in equal part in proving much of humanity hasn't evolved all that far), then run off and 'tell tales'.

Mr Changsha wrote:

Dibbun wrote:

Frop wrote:

jefjef wrote:

Frop wrote:I don't want to condone the use of the word "faggot", but you took it entirely out of context by suggesting it's a homophobic remark. He just wants to state you're a douche and looking at the chat log I'd have to concur.

Out of context? Thats a stretch. Don't defend this crap. There are plenty of other names that could have been used...

True enough, but why is "anti-handicapped" slur like "retard" allowed then? Are we supposed to assume the OP beats up people with Down syndrome during the weekend just like the accused is clearly picking on homosexuals in his spare time?

It's not about whether or not he picks on homosexuals, not that it's relevant but I personally am not homosexual. The word "faggot" is disallowed because it carries a connotation of hatred, same as the word "nigger." You do not have to be a member of the group of people directly referenced in order to be offended by the meaning behind the word. The word "retard," in my opinion, does not carry a connotation of hatred - perhaps it is low class, uncouth, uncivilized, and rude - but that is irrelevant as well, since "retard" is permitted as legal in-game chat.

In my opinion, this report is somewhat straightforward - shit talking on both sides, then DBo crossed the line by saying a banned slur.

What a depressing, crappy little thread this is. I can but hope the mods censure both of you.. especially you Dibbun. I'm not all that keen on homophobia, but then I'm not the greatest fan of mocking a disability either...but I really can't stand the sort of worm that would, after behaving in such a way (and obviously taking in equal part in proving much of humanity hasn't evolved all that far), then run off and 'tell tales'.

Censured for what, saying something that's not against the rules? I think you've been watching too many Jane Lynch PSAs, saying "retard" has a context and connotation entirely separate than mocking someone with a mental disability. Take it up with the mods and tell them to ban the word, but not sure what you're trying to prove by pushing for sanctions against someone who has broken no rule.

saying the word retard has exactly the same impact as saying faggot, and is used for the same reason.


if you hit a dog with a stick and the dog bites you, whose fault is it that you were bitten, yours or the dogs ?

if you don't want someone to call you a hurtful name, don't call them names first.

greenoaks wrote:if you don't want someone to call you a hurtful name, don't call them names first.

If that comment is directed at me, I question your literacy. Re-read game chat and see who said what first.

someone should report dibbun for using this anit-gay word in his posts over and over.. i mean im reallly offended by this and how he keeps using it!

technically, you broke the rules here too:

The word "faggot" is disallowed because it carries a connotation of hatred, same as the word "nigger."

Being an intelligent person, you should understand why you crossed the line in trying to describe your intentions.

As far as the term describing a person incapable of doing things another person would do "normally", this should be on the list too. There shouldnt be any allowances for using specific words that describe a people group in a negative way. The word in question has the same weight of negativity against that people group as would any offensive term or racial slur toward its people group.

you did, you called him a newb first..if that was me, id be offended by that..because then you are just telling me I suck..

ad10r3tr0 wrote:you did, you called him a newb first..if that was me, id be offended by that..because then you are just telling me I suck..

are you

Here Here, Well said

Come on Eddie 2 - on our island we can buy Faggots at the chip shop - one of the meanings in Wikipedia is:
Faggot (food), British meatball commonly made of pork offal

Personally I don't think anything should be done, he called you a meatball which is far less than calling somoeone a retard which is quite derogatory.

Move on, you lost so be it.

ad10r3tr0 wrote:you did, you called him a newb first..if that was me, id be offended by that..because then you are just telling me I suck..

Good god, learn to read people. He said "f*ck you" to me, which started this shit. Not that it's relevant in the least.

gazza_81 wrote:Come on Eddie 2 - on our island we can buy Faggots at the chip shop - one of the meanings in Wikipedia is:
Faggot (food), British meatball commonly made of pork offal

Personally I don't think anything should be done, he called you a meatball which is far less than calling somoeone a retard which is quite derogatory.

Move on, you lost so be it.

rofl we already tried that one. in this thread it dont work gazza.

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and if i remember a couple of use got a polite word to stop.

Personally, I think that either all derogatory words should be acceptable, or none. Don't make one word worse than another, especially seeing as different cultures can take different words' meanings quite differently.

'Faggot' isn't exactly a big no-no word in Britain, 'retard' is much more unacceptable. I use the latter more often though simply because no-one really uses faggot. The shortened form I believe is 'fag' which in Britain is a cigarette. It's very much an American word, and would only be offensive to an American. I notice the accused is in South Africa, where people don't take offence quite so easily.

At the end of the day they're only words, and if you take offence at them, you should just have to man up an deal with it.