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Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [warned]KRK
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Posted:
Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:01 pm
by HairyP
Accused:
claudioThe accused are suspected of:
Holding Games Hostage
Game number(s):
Game 9093957Game 9093937 moderator added
Game 9093937
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio)
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Posted:
Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:51 pm
by 40kguy
screen shots can be helpfull.
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio)
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Posted:
Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:53 pm
by phantomzero
Wow. Seems like a really nice guy
Foed!
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio)
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Posted:
Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:45 pm
by 40kguy
i think this should be an easy bust
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio)
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Posted:
Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:52 pm
by Victor Sullivan
I'm cooking up a mean pot of justice today!
-Sully
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [pending]KRK
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Posted:
Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:17 am
by Karl_R_Kroenen
Claudio has been notified that he/she has 24 hours to comply...
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [pending]KRK
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:37 pm
by jefjef
Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Claudio has been notified that he/she has 24 hours to comply...
As many rounds as it has been going on he really should get a warning instead of another chance.
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [pending]KRK
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:37 pm
by MichelSableheart
I can't agree with that statement, JefJef. Effectively, you're saying that if HairyP had brought the issue up in these forums sooner, Claudio should be given a second chance, but because HairyP waited, Claudio should immediately be warned? Claudio has no control over when CC gets involved. Furthermore, if noone told him that what he was doing was against the rules of CC, there would have been no incentive whatsoever for him to change his behaviour of his own accord.
If the standard procedure in case of a hostaged game is giving the accused 24 hours to change his behaviour, I see no reason why the length of the transgression should be any reason to deviate.
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [warned]KRK
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:35 pm
by Karl_R_Kroenen
Claudio = WARNED
Claudio was given 24 hr notice to finish the games (yes there where TWO), which is the same amount of time a player has per round.
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [pending]KRK
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:55 am
by SirSebstar
MichelSableheart wrote:I can't agree with that statement, JefJef. Effectively, you're saying that if HairyP had brought the issue up in these forums sooner, Claudio should be given a second chance, but because HairyP waited, Claudio should immediately be warned? Claudio has no control over when CC gets involved. Furthermore, if noone told him that what he was doing was against the rules of CC, there would have been no incentive whatsoever for him to change his behaviour of his own accord.
If the standard procedure in case of a hostaged game is giving the accused 24 hours to change his behaviour, I see no reason why the length of the transgression should be any reason to deviate.
Sorry MS, its in the rules. read the community guidelines. no hostage games allowed
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [warned]KRK
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Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:43 am
by MichelSableheart
Sebstar, you might have misunderstood my post. I never tried to argue that Claudio wasn't breaking any rules.
I disagreed with JefJef, who stated that a warning should follow because of the number of rounds the transgression had been going on, implicitly stating that if that number had been lower, a lower punishment should suffice. I tried to argue that holding someone hostage for 3 turns or for 50 turns should receive the same punishment.
Re: Holding Games Hostage (Claudio) [warned]KRK
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Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:02 am
by jefjef
MichelSableheart wrote:Sebstar, you might have misunderstood my post. I never tried to argue that Claudio wasn't breaking any rules.
I disagreed with JefJef, who stated that a warning should follow because of the number of rounds the transgression had been going on, implicitly stating that if that number had been lower, a lower punishment should suffice. I tried to argue that holding someone hostage for 3 turns or for 50 turns should receive the same punishment.
You are putting meaning to my post that is not there. The guy deserved a warning - not a 2nd chance. It takes more than a couple rounds to become a hostage situation and a warn-able offense. He exceeded that by several rounds.
Bye.