Conquer Club

Night Strike wrote:Signatures larger than 150 pixels high by 600 pixels wide just scream “I am compensating for something” and should be reduced in size. Note this size restriction includes all parts of the signature, i.e. all banners and all text.

Pander88uk wrote:Hi Clapper,

Not sure if you're the right person to mention this to, but as you're global mod head you were the natural choice! I've recently had the below exchange with Karl regarding my avatar (which contained a naughty word in the tiniest of tiny writing). Not sure who complained about it, but I've had it up for months. If someone was offended though then of course I am sorry and have removed the picture as requested.

I'm not impressed, however, with Karl's response to my pointing out his signature was larger than rules allow, and he still has not changed it. Pretty bad, considering he's a mod telling people what they can and can't do in their profile, yet can't stick to the rules himself!

I obviously don't find the sig annoying, and only pointed it out because I was being pedantic after being asked to remove something on my profile which was in violation of the rules, but the attitude is not something I'd expect from a moderator of this site, especially in his position. Just thought I'd bring this to your attention.

From checking the sig, it is definitely over the allowed 150 pixels in height with writing included. As per forum guidelines,

Signatures larger than 150 pixels high by 600 pixels wide just scream “I am compensating for something” and should be reduced in size. Note this size restriction includes all parts of the signature, i.e. all banners and all text.

Obviously, if this is best sat with another, please can you forward on my concerns?

Thanks
Pander

Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Pander,

Could you tell me what your Avatar reads???
If it contains a word that wouldn't be suitable for a minor to read, please remove it...

Thanks
Karl

Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:

Pander88uk wrote:Hi Karl,

Will remove it, but I doubt anyone can really read it it's so small! However, certainly is an offensive word and as such I'll find a new avatar.

While you're looking at people's avatars, I would suggest you amend your signature to the appropriate 150 pixel height, as it seems a bit hypocritical to be preaching the rules on posting when you don't follow them 100% yourself...

Cheers
Pander

550px × 150px

Pander88uk wrote:

Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:

Pander88uk wrote:Not with the writing included though! I only say because I received "a warning" once for having writing under my sig hahaha

This is all I see from Killmanic:
"It had come to my attention that your signature is over the allowed size of 150 pixels high and 600 pixels long. If you could please make it fit that size as given in the forum guidelines that would be great."

Yeah, when I was a mod and had padel access I checked and it showed as a minor infringement didn't even know it was wrong!

Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Pander,

Could you tell me what your Avatar reads???
If it contains a word that wouldn't be suitable for a minor to read, please remove it...

Thanks
Karl

Serbia wrote:

Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Pander,

Could you tell me what your Avatar reads???
If it contains a word that wouldn't be suitable for a minor to read, please remove it...

Thanks
Karl

This here is a big change in CC moderating behavior. Apparently we've now decided to remove offensive language from avatars? Since when? Can we get some clarification on this? There are several people who will be found in violation if this is true.

General Brock II wrote:

Serbia wrote:

Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Pander,

Could you tell me what your Avatar reads???
If it contains a word that wouldn't be suitable for a minor to read, please remove it...

Thanks
Karl

This here is a big change in CC moderating behavior. Apparently we've now decided to remove offensive language from avatars? Since when? Can we get some clarification on this? There are several people who will be found in violation if this is true.

About time.

Pander88uk wrote:Hi Clapper,

Not sure if you're the right person to mention this to, but as you're global mod head you were the natural choice! I've recently had the below exchange with Karl regarding my avatar (which contained a naughty word in the tiniest of tiny writing). Not sure who complained about it, but I've had it up for months. If someone was offended though then of course I am sorry and have removed the picture as requested.

Pander88uk wrote:I'm not impressed, however, with Karl's response to my pointing out his signature was larger than rules allow, and he still has not changed it. Pretty bad, considering he's a mod telling people what they can and can't do in their profile, yet can't stick to the rules himself!

Pander88uk wrote:Really poor behaviour from 2 CC mods there, one count of ignoring a rule breach and not following up a site member's concerns, and one count of preaching rule breaches to others while breaching them yourself and not amending this when mentioned.

Victor Sullivan wrote:](*,) Big whoop, his signature is more than 150 pixels tall. My signature was too big when I joined the mod squad, and king achilles just sent me a PM saying, "You're signature is too big,", I took it off, then yay happy fun time. No harm done.

I believe this is a blatant attempt to criticize the C&A department. This, eye84free's recent case... Seriously, guys, just stop it. It's like you're trying to crucify a man for asking for a napkin saying, "He's not prepared!!".

"Look, the President walked across the street when the hand was flashing, the rules clearly state you may only continue to cross the street when it's flashing! Impeach him!"

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this foolish behavior...

-Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote:

Pander88uk wrote:Really poor behaviour from 2 CC mods there, one count of ignoring a rule breach and not following up a site member's concerns, and one count of preaching rule breaches to others while breaching them yourself and not amending this when mentioned.

Pander, being a mod yourself once, you should know how difficult it is to bear the criticism of others on a constant basis. Think of being in Karl's position! I don't believe you're being very fair to him.

-Sully

ljex wrote:

Victor Sullivan wrote:](*,) Big whoop, his signature is more than 150 pixels tall. My signature was too big when I joined the mod squad, and king achilles just sent me a PM saying, "You're signature is too big,", I took it off, then yay happy fun time. No harm done.

I believe this is a blatant attempt to criticize the C&A department. This, eye84free's recent case... Seriously, guys, just stop it. It's like you're trying to crucify a man for asking for a napkin saying, "He's not prepared!!".

"Look, the President walked across the street when the hand was flashing, the rules clearly state you may only continue to cross the street when it's flashing! Impeach him!"

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this foolish behavior...

-Sully

while you are becoming less tolerant of this "foolish behavior" people are becoming more and more upset with the way things have been going on in the CC forms for the past 2-3 months. Its a shame really because I hate to see this happen but if CC does not change the way some things are done, i think they could have a major problem. Mods should be held to higher standards, and should be expected to follow and know the rules they are responsible to uphold. I don't know what word was in that avatar but if it was f*ck or really any swear word...i will be deeply upset with the ruling given considering the mod who had f*ck got to keep hers.

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this site...its a shame that this has happened it really is and I wish I could speak nothing of good about this site like I used too, but recent events have changed me. I can only hope future decisions will change me back.

Victor Sullivan wrote:](*,) Big whoop, his signature is more than 150 pixels tall. My signature was too big when I joined the mod squad, and king achilles just sent me a PM saying, "You're signature is too big,", I took it off, then yay happy fun time. No harm done.

I believe this is a blatant attempt to criticize the C&A department. This, eye84free's recent case... Seriously, guys, just stop it. It's like you're trying to crucify a man for asking for a napkin saying, "He's not prepared!!".

"Look, the President walked across the street when the hand was flashing, the rules clearly state you may only continue to cross the street when it's flashing! Impeach him!"

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this foolish behavior...

-Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote:

ljex wrote:

Victor Sullivan wrote:](*,) Big whoop, his signature is more than 150 pixels tall. My signature was too big when I joined the mod squad, and king achilles just sent me a PM saying, "You're signature is too big,", I took it off, then yay happy fun time. No harm done.

I believe this is a blatant attempt to criticize the C&A department. This, eye84free's recent case... Seriously, guys, just stop it. It's like you're trying to crucify a man for asking for a napkin saying, "He's not prepared!!".

"Look, the President walked across the street when the hand was flashing, the rules clearly state you may only continue to cross the street when it's flashing! Impeach him!"

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this foolish behavior...

-Sully

while you are becoming less tolerant of this "foolish behavior" people are becoming more and more upset with the way things have been going on in the CC forms for the past 2-3 months. Its a shame really because I hate to see this happen but if CC does not change the way some things are done, i think they could have a major problem. Mods should be held to higher standards, and should be expected to follow and know the rules they are responsible to uphold. I don't know what word was in that avatar but if it was f*ck or really any swear word...i will be deeply upset with the ruling given considering the mod who had f*ck got to keep hers.

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this site...its a shame that this has happened it really is and I wish I could speak nothing of good about this site like I used too, but recent events have changed me. I can only hope future decisions will change me back.

I don't disagree that mods should be held in high standards, but I assert that all mods are not perfect, even the admins! How have things changed? What do you suggest be done?

-Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote:](*,) Big whoop, his signature is more than 150 pixels tall. My signature was too big when I joined the mod squad, and king achilles just sent me a PM saying, "You're signature is too big,", I took it off, then yay happy fun time. No harm done.

I believe this is a blatant attempt to criticize the C&A department. This, eye84free's recent case... Seriously, guys, just stop it. It's like you're trying to crucify a man for asking for a napkin saying, "He's not prepared!!".

"Look, the President walked across the street when the hand was flashing, the rules clearly state you may only continue to cross the street when it's flashing! Impeach him!"

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this foolish behavior...

-Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote: What do you suggest be done?

-Sully

nippersean wrote:Good of you to become "less and less tolerant of this foolish behaviour" Mr Sully

You changed your sig when you were told to. KRK doesn't seem to believe the rules apply to him.

No-one is having a go at C&A at all but to me, it appears someone, or 2, has gone loco. When you take responsibilities, young man, for 20,000 people, you should take them seriously, understand structures and guidelines set, or be a man and say you're not ready yet.

I personally couldn't say higher things about C&A (and they get better all the time) in maybe the hardest job in CC....you can't keep all the people...etc

What is being said is KRK changing the rules.....by himself....you think this is OK?

edit - i now realise other posts have been made since my post to Sully's but it still stands

Victor Sullivan wrote:

ljex wrote:

Victor Sullivan wrote:](*,) Big whoop, his signature is more than 150 pixels tall. My signature was too big when I joined the mod squad, and king achilles just sent me a PM saying, "You're signature is too big,", I took it off, then yay happy fun time. No harm done.

I believe this is a blatant attempt to criticize the C&A department. This, eye84free's recent case... Seriously, guys, just stop it. It's like you're trying to crucify a man for asking for a napkin saying, "He's not prepared!!".

"Look, the President walked across the street when the hand was flashing, the rules clearly state you may only continue to cross the street when it's flashing! Impeach him!"

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this foolish behavior...

-Sully

while you are becoming less tolerant of this "foolish behavior" people are becoming more and more upset with the way things have been going on in the CC forms for the past 2-3 months. Its a shame really because I hate to see this happen but if CC does not change the way some things are done, i think they could have a major problem. Mods should be held to higher standards, and should be expected to follow and know the rules they are responsible to uphold. I don't know what word was in that avatar but if it was f*ck or really any swear word...i will be deeply upset with the ruling given considering the mod who had f*ck got to keep hers.

I am becoming less and less tolerant of this site...its a shame that this has happened it really is and I wish I could speak nothing of good about this site like I used too, but recent events have changed me. I can only hope future decisions will change me back.

I don't disagree that mods should be held in high standards, but I assert that all mods are not perfect, even the admins! How have things changed? What do you suggest be done?

-Sully

Pander88uk wrote:Let me be clear to Sully, I have no problem at all with the signature, and your selective quoting of me is frankly embarrassing for you. I abided by KRK's request to remove my avatar and, being pedantic, decided to mention that his signature was outside the accepted limits (because I was feeling confrontational at the time). What was upsetting was, as others have noted, the lack of response from 2 mods. I took the following course of action:

- Direct confrontation with KRK (ignored)
- Escalation to a more senior mod (ignored)
- C&A forum

I think I went about this in the only way I could have, and certainly didn't come rushing to the forum in an attempt to make the C&A mods look bad etc. etc. etc.

KRK has amended his signature now so all is good with the world.


A further note, I wasn't aware it wasn't a hard and fast rule that swearing wasn't allowed in avatars... just assumed KRK knew what he was doing.

Victor Sullivan wrote:

Pander88uk wrote:Let me be clear to Sully, I have no problem at all with the signature, and your selective quoting of me is frankly embarrassing for you. I abided by KRK's request to remove my avatar and, being pedantic, decided to mention that his signature was outside the accepted limits (because I was feeling confrontational at the time). What was upsetting was, as others have noted, the lack of response from 2 mods. I took the following course of action:

- Direct confrontation with KRK (ignored)
- Escalation to a more senior mod (ignored)
- C&A forum

I think I went about this in the only way I could have, and certainly didn't come rushing to the forum in an attempt to make the C&A mods look bad etc. etc. etc.

KRK has amended his signature now so all is good with the world.


A further note, I wasn't aware it wasn't a hard and fast rule that swearing wasn't allowed in avatars... just assumed KRK knew what he was doing.

I've made a fool of myself enough times not to worry too much about how smart, stupid or otherwise I look

How long did you wait between escalations, Pander?

-Sully

Pander88uk wrote:Note that while the banner is 150 pixels high, the text increases this size.

signature wrote:Highest score 2032 @ 11/18/2010 @ 21:36 PST

Captain, Road Prison 36 wrote: What we got here is... failure to communicate. .