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'Deadbeat, Rude, Vindictive, Sore Loser' I received a one star rate and these comments for four games I had with the above. I never missed a turn, in two games said nothing. In the game KWA won I said gg and made two very minor comments in the fourth.

Accused: KWA

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The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:

this is a good one

For clarity, the four games are:

Game 8962210
Game 8954620
Game 8743231
Game 8582718

I don't see a particular reason for the bad rating. Battles seem to evolve normally.
Has the OP asked the accused why he gave this bad rating?

Your rating is 3.8 so there have to be a reason for it Johnny. Maybe your playstyle.

If I were the one being accused here I would bring up Game 8743231 and this quote:

2011-03-29 03:06:27 - *jonny*: The dice stoped me getting a card. Your game.. gg
2011-03-29 03:52:27 - *jonny*: No set either on 4? gg

I usually 1-star people who complain about dice or cards. I can definitely see the tag Sore Loser come from the above, not necessarily Rude but I'd give it a pass because you said gg twice and are heavily implying that your opponent is only winning because you were "screwed" by luck. The Vindictive tag likely comes from Game 8582718 and this:

2011-03-01 10:23:43 - *jonny*: Any reason you are attacking me Green?
2011-03-02 14:21:01 - *jonny*: Attack me again Green and I will attack you till you Die!

Green is not the accused (the accused ending up winning though) although that doesn't make a difference as far as being justified in bestowing that tag. I would give a pass on Vindictive.

I agree with you that you do not appear to have missed a turn, though in my opinion, an accurate star rating and 1 inaccurate rating tag out of 4 does not rating abuse make.

Dibbun wrote:
I usually 1-star people who complain about dice or cards.

And you think this is fair rating? I can understand if you 1-star someone in the Attitude category (although even here it is too harsh - if you give 1 star to someone who said he had bad dice/cards, what would you give to people who start swearing and calling others names?), but how is complaining about dice/cards relevant to Fair Play or Gameplay rating?

SirJohn13 wrote:

Dibbun wrote:
I usually 1-star people who complain about dice or cards.

And you think this is fair rating? I can understand if you 1-star someone in the Attitude category (although even here it is too harsh - if you give 1 star to someone who said he had bad dice/cards, what would you give to people who start swearing and calling others names?), but how is complaining about dice/cards relevant to Fair Play or Gameplay rating?

From the Instructions tab:

Rating Attributes
Fair Play: Covers suiciding, secret alliance suspicion, breaking or respecting alliances, chivalry, etc...
Gameplay: Measures the player's ability to play an enjoyable game (not the player's ability to win). Covers strategy, diplomacy, teamwork, etc...
Attitude: Covers behaviour in chat, foul language, sore losers, gracious winners, "great chatters!", whining about luck, etc...

In my opinion, all three of the bolded can relate to crying about dice and cards. It is the height of arrogance to state to someone who you don't know that they are winning because of luck instead of skill, and I have no idea how someone can think they can do that and retain some modicum of chivalry. It is also not really an enjoyable game (for me) when someone cries because then I have to call them out as a whining noob and will probably get more of their tears all over chat.

If you don't know someone, don't cry about dice or cards because there's no excuse for it. Just get your big boy pants, take your loss, and move on, preferably learning why you lost (hint: it was your own lack of skill, not the dice or the cards). Otherwise I will 1-star you every time for being a pansy noob who not only can't take a loss but also refuses to learn from their mistakes and presume that they only lose when luck is against them.

I am not offended by profanity and would not alter my rating because of it (unless it was discriminatory then I would report and 1-star in Attitude)

It may be true that KWA might possibly have checked a tag incorrectly but there isn't a ratings abuse pattern for the accused.

KWA - CLEARED