Accused: Mr_Subliminal and Bonghtr [Cleared of multis]

[LawNerd]

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These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance (possibly both)

Suspect users: "Mr_Subliminal" and "Bonghtr"

Game number: 255689

Comments: I suspect this user of making multiple accounts. The accounts were created within two days of each other. Although the Mr_Subliminal account has played games without Bonghtr, every single game Bonghtr has played also included Mr_Subliminal. One account consistently wins while the other consistently loses. When I played "them" in game # 255689, the Bonghtr account made ridiculous moves to only attack me while entirely ignoring the Mr_Subliminal account. Please look into whether this is a violation of either the multiple account policy or the prohibition on secret alliances. I tried to address the issue directly with the account holder, but was entirely unsatisfied with the explanation.

Here is a sample chat thread after I suspected foul play.
2007-02-25 23:11:21 - LawNerd: Dude! Every game with Bonghtr was played with Mr. Subliminal.
2007-02-25 23:11:33 - LawNerd: That's a violation of the code of conduct
2007-02-25 23:11:46 - Mr_subliminal: not every game
2007-02-25 23:12:10 - Mr_subliminal: look at my games played and his games played
2007-02-25 23:12:24 - LawNerd: total bs
2007-02-25 23:12:46 - LawNerd: entirely unethical and in direct violation of the CC rules
2007-02-25 23:13:18 - Mr_subliminal: no it is not and no we dont play every game togeather


very truly yours,
LawNerd

[Mr_subliminal]

In reply. If you are going to post a complaint post all the facts and not in such a way it looks so one sided. First off false that i or he has multiple accounts. True that every game he has played was played with me cause i told him to sign up and i taught him how to play. False that we had any kind of allience he was hitting me and i was hitting him from the start of the game. You guys were fighting in europe and asia while i took over nourth and south america. Then if i am correct you tryed to persway him to attack me half way through the game. then ya got pissed when i finally did carture north and south america and started with the accusations law man. Just like every other lawyer...DISHONEST practice it at hoe not here.


2007-02-25 16:51:55 - LawNerd: hey now
2007-02-25 16:52:22 - LawNerd: is your name "bong hater" or "bong heater"?
2007-02-25 16:53:51 - LawNerd: Also, are we going to end up pummeling each other in Asia while Mr. Subliminal takes over N. Amercia?
2007-02-25 16:55:25 - Mr_subliminal: whats wrong with that....lol
2007-02-25 16:55:55 - Bonghtr: bonghitter
2007-02-25 17:08:57 - LawNerd: as we all know, we are totaled if the western hemisphere is under one players control
2007-02-25 17:10:21 - Mr_subliminal:
2007-02-25 17:11:21 - LawNerd: Dude! Every game with Bonghtr was played with Mr. Subliminal.
2007-02-25 17:11:33 - LawNerd: That's a violation of the code of conduct
2007-02-25 17:11:46 - Mr_subliminal: not every game
2007-02-25 17:12:10 - Mr_subliminal: look at my games played and his games played
2007-02-25 17:12:24 - LawNerd: total bs
2007-02-25 17:12:46 - LawNerd: entirely unethical and in direct violation of the CC rules
2007-02-25 17:13:18 - Mr_subliminal: no it is not and no we dont play every game togeather
2007-02-25 17:18:36 - Mr_subliminal: he is a friend and usaully the only time he plays is with me.
2007-02-25 17:22:59 - LawNerd: Incredibly disappointing
2007-02-25 17:23:52 - Mr_subliminal: whats dissapointing
2007-02-25 17:26:26 - Mr_subliminal: freaken kamchatka kicken my azz
2007-02-25 17:28:25 - LawNerd: Creating multiple accounts is a violation of the CC rules. Playing standard multiplayer games with secret alliances is a violation of the CC rules.
2007-02-25 17:30:00 - Mr_subliminal: oh now i have multiple accounts......damn i must be incredable worken 2 computers at once...i should work at nasa
2007-02-25 17:32:24 - Mr_subliminal: i can honestly say that is not the case.
2007-02-25 17:34:03 - Bonghtr: lol, its supposed to be a fun game : )
2007-02-25 17:41:26 - Mr_subliminal: gg blue
2007-02-25 18:20:02 - Mr_subliminal: gg green

In following up remove the neg from my Feedback and expecially bonghtr and i will do the same.

Thanks to admin for revueing this issue in advance.

[LawNerd]

A cursory review of the account records, to date, of "bonghtr" and "Mr_subliminal" indicates that either: (1) the accounts are both held by the same person or (2) the two accounts have a secret alliance. Either way, its a violation of the two main rules of Conquer Club.

Most players can identify when others are cheating in this game. As a paying user, I am proud to provide financial support for this great website. It is incredibly disappointing to play a match when the opponents are violating the website's two main rules. I can always play private games, but it is disappointing nonetheless. I've blocked those two accounts and will not play them again.

Thank you, in advance, for your investigation into this matter.

Very truly yours,
Lawnerd

[Bonghtr]

Honestly, Lawnerd you are completly frickin ridiculous, what happened to playing a frienly game w/friends.....IDIOT.



Bonghtr

[sully800]

Well, these two accounts are cleared of being multis. We cannot prove that secret alliances have occurred in most isolated cases, and those accusations are usually just a result of someone not agreeing with their opponents strategy. However when two names are accused of having a secret alliance multiple times, and their is evidence to warrant the case they would be blocked from playing together.

[LawNerd]

Thank you for your prompt investigation into this matter. Because the accounts have been cleared of multis, I will rescind and revise the negative response accusation on that matter.

[Mr_subliminal]

Thanx for the quick responce and as i promised you lawnerd i told ya we were not one of the same. As was the secret alliance. Nobody wants negative feedback so my offer still stands on if you remove the neg you gave me and i will do the same for you. I did not want any hard feeling but i just think you let that game get to you. Please respond.

Thanx again

[sully800]

Thank you for your prompt investigation into this matter. Because the accounts have been cleared of multis, I will rescind and revise the negative response accusation on that matter.

You really live up to your name