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Nathalie_s [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:11 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
Accused:

Nathalie_s


The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis



Comments:

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:21 pm
by Masli
Hey jr24,

Nathalie_s is pascalleke's daughter.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:15 pm
by Woodruff
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Accused:

Nathalie_s

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Comments:


Based on?

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:34 pm
by JBlombier
Woodruff wrote:Based on?

Game 8332698, where Nathalie is kicking his ass. I understand the report, but given the information that Nathalie is pascalleke's daughter, it all makes sense to me.

I've played Monsters against pascalleke and he knows what he's doing. Most likely he taught his daughter how to do it. Eventhough it was probably pascalleke's playstyle, it shouldn't matter to learn someone the game. She'll survive without daddy's help soon enough.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:04 am
by pascalleke
so this is new : any sore looser can report a friend/new recruit/familymember/girl- and boyfriend wo is getting tips , help , advice to woop some one's ass ..... =D>


man feels like the spanish inquistion here :lol:

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:01 am
by Arama86n
pascalleke wrote:so this is new : any sore looser can report a friend/new recruit/familymember/girl- and boyfriend wo is getting tips , help , advice to woop some one's ass ..... =D>


man feels like the spanish inquistion here :lol:


How was he supposed to know that it's allegedly your daughter? If you see someone kicking officer arse on maps like Kings Court & Monsters first day on the job, going to C&A aint that far-fetched in my book... Eight times out of ten you'd probably have found a multi.

I don't see an inquisition here, just someone using their brain. Perhaps he was wrong this time, but the odds were still with him.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:52 am
by jefjef
pascalleke wrote:so this is new : any sore looser can report a friend/new recruit/familymember/girl- and boyfriend wo is getting tips , help , advice to woop some one's ass .....


Getting tips or move by move by move instructions? There is a difference. I sure understand why jr would post this and why he would be a bit miffed. Almost like playing against an experienced multi.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:06 am
by Lubawski
Seriously? This is her 3rd time on the map. She's 2-0. JR has played it 11 times (this is his 12th), he's 0-11. Considering one of those losses was to a cadet, I'd think she's the favorite here.

Unrelated, is there really a JOHNNYROCKET24 and a Johnny Rockets. How strange.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:10 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
how am I to know this is his daughter? I see a new player on the site after only 4 games played ( only 2 on this map ) that obviously knows the map like they designed it. So you might want to just marked this closed and tomorrow I will open 20 accounts for all my siblings.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:22 pm
by Knight_Guard
Busy Mother eh? lol jk

So a new recuit disowns you, does that mean he is a multi no. There are some people that bought the board game, and is used to the board game, and the board game and this game are pretty similar so that my friend is not multi. :)

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:32 pm
by Royal Panda
Knight_Guard wrote:Busy Mother eh? lol jk

So a new recuit disowns you, does that mean he is a multi no. There are some people that bought the board game, and is used to the board game, and the board game and this game are pretty similar so that my friend is not multi. :)


Have you ever played the Monsters map? It is in no way AT ALL similar to the board game! JR made a ligitimate report which almost any other player would have made in similar circumstances. So it turns out this probably isn't a multi... however, there could still be an issue if pascalleke is indeed giving instructions on some of the harder maps to gain points for a new recruit. Like jefjef said, it comes very close to being a multi!

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:35 pm
by Woodruff
JBlombier wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Based on?

Game 8332698, where Nathalie is kicking his ass. I understand the report, but given the information that Nathalie is pascalleke's daughter, it all makes sense to me.


My point is that he should have PUT THAT IN THE FUCKING REPORT (not yelling at you, but rather at him). It's not like it would have been difficult.

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:52 am
by king sam
Knight_Guard wrote: There are some people that bought the board game, and is used to the board game, and the board game and this game are pretty similar. :)

:roll:
Sigh, 9 times out of 10 everyone that says that exact statement are multi's trying to explain why there soo good so soon. So I looked at you and your a multi.. Thanks for making it easy.

Woodruff wrote:My point is that he should have PUT THAT IN THE REPORT (not yelling at you, but rather at him). It's not like it would have been difficult.

Agreed, even if it seems obvious to you the OP, going the extra mile and putting why you are accusing someone gives insight to the mods and community.

And as for this case, its being looked into. On the surface it appears they are family, however it will be researched further and a decision given shortly.

Pending.

KS

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:34 pm
by pascalleke
On the surface?

1 wenn nathalie made her own account i reported this to king achillies by pm : apparently this was a total waste of time and effort ...will teach me act as a good citizen :oops:
2 if i fill these 3 words "on the surface " correctly : i must proof to u that i have a daughter by sending a copy of her passport?
3 also send a document from the state that she lives with me in the same house?
4 maybee make a home video of her playing on CC while i sit next to her??


i ve been playing here on CC for 4 years now , with its ups and downs , but this is getting ridiculous ....i did not tell my kid about this , dont think it would make her feel happy , like it doesnt give me any happy feelings .


yess i am guilty of helping her , not making her own moves , that has no point in teaching ;) , i know for a fact that many friends , loved ones , lovers , sibblings , etc are being "helped" here....but i dont like wenn a CC worker claims "on the surface " ; gives me the impression that i would make up a daughter to get some points? :lol: i know enough low ranks to do that , ...sorry this is not giving me happy feelings ...thats all what i want to say :sick:

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:20 pm
by Royal Panda
Pascalleke, there's no need to take it personally. A complaint was made, so whatever the situation ES has to look into it, as is his job! Unfortunately, ES is not KA so unable to know what you sent him. Now you have declared that, it should make ES' job much easier :)

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:23 pm
by pascalleke
Pander88uk wrote:Pascalleke, there's no need to take it personally. A complaint was made, so whatever the situation ES has to look into it, as is his job! Unfortunately, ES is not KA so unable to know what you sent him. Now you have declared that, it should make ES' job much easier :)

ur right ..sorry ...i can get really emotional sometimes ...but dont touch my daughter ..... :evil:


Normal for a dad i guess :oops:


i will cool down now :lol: :-$

thanks pander88uk ...needed this ;)

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:00 pm
by Royal Panda
pascalleke wrote:
Pander88uk wrote:Pascalleke, there's no need to take it personally. A complaint was made, so whatever the situation ES has to look into it, as is his job! Unfortunately, ES is not KA so unable to know what you sent him. Now you have declared that, it should make ES' job much easier :)

ur right ..sorry ...i can get really emotional sometimes ...but dont touch my daughter ..... :evil:


Normal for a dad i guess :oops:


i will cool down now :lol: :-$

thanks pander88uk ...needed this ;)



Haha I understand completely! :D

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:13 pm
by JBlombier
pascalleke,

Just know that the community understands two things:
- The report was made, because a fairly new player did very well on a difficult map.
- A father should be able to learn his daughter this beautiful game.

We're looking at both sides and I'm sure Nathalie will be cleared.

- Jb

PS. Any chance you can learn her some more and she can join our clan ;)

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:23 pm
by pascalleke
JBlombier wrote:pascalleke,

Just know that the community understands two things:
- The report was made, because a fairly new player did very well on a difficult map.
- A father should be able to learn his daughter this beautiful game.

We're looking at both sides and I'm sure Nathalie will be cleared.

- Jb

PS. Any chance you can learn her some more and she can join our clan ;)


i will teach her all i know and she will get her own experiences ...so if u can handle her spamming on forum and pm's because she loves those smileys to much ...sure why not ;)

Re: Nathalie_s [pending] KS

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:20 am
by king sam
Everyone hates the system when it is looking at them and says its not doing enough when they're asking it to work for them. 'Que Sera Sera '

First matter of business, Nathalie_s is Cleared.

Second, JR had reasonable measures to think her account was a multiple account, given the behind depth at harder maps and strategy she was using. (not hard for her to have this when she is being coached) 90% of the time this is a valid indicator that something else is going on

Third, you did the right thing by messaging an Admin about the creation of another account from the same household that way it would be declared if suspicions ever did rise about it. But, surprisingly this is done A LOT when a player has created a multiple account so they can use the excuse that "They messaged the Admin that their sibling/spouse/relative would be playing from the same household under that account".

Fourth, the majority of the appeals for violation of Rule #1 try to use the excuse that they had the same IP collisions because of the sibling/spouse/relative excuse.

Just because someone says it doesnt make it so, and in the same fact just because someone used a proactive measure to declare that excuse doesnt make it so. We can tell the difference.

The C&A team do the due diligence in every claim to ensure the most accurate verdict is put out and the appropriate measures are taken. In every case. Me saying on the surface was me saying that is was going to be looked at further to make sure everything was on the up and up. Just like it has been and will be done on any claim or notification that comes to the Hunters. You dont have a problem with that when we are doing that for people that you feel are guilty of a violation. So let the process work, if its looking at you and your not guilty then 9 times out of 10 you will be found as such. And if wrongfully punished then the situation will be corrected, but there is no need to message all of admin asking if you need to send passport or video proof.

Closed.

KS

Re: Nathalie_s

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:25 pm
by Woodruff
king sam wrote:
Woodruff wrote:My point is that he should have PUT THAT IN THE REPORT (not yelling at you, but rather at him). It's not like it would have been difficult.

Agreed


That's not what I said, mister!!! <sheepish grin>