Conquer Club

The accused are suspected of:

Point Dumpiong


1304 games started and he is not taking turns in any of them

Comments:

His excuses include a crashed pc, a car accident, and ie crashing.

Basically he started these games and realized the task at hand and decided it would be easier to dump.

He took one turn in a few of my games (or someone took turns on his account in my games that I didn't take) but that's it...

Username:
theherkman
Rank:
Cook Cook
Score:
255--this was at over 2800 points less than three days ago
Games:
2411 completed, 807 (33%) won | Find all games with theherkman
Attendance:
87% of turns taken--this was at 99%

2 C&A's at the same time - is it a new record?

As far as the issue itself goes, he indeed did take a couple of turns against me in the dubs, but almost everyone of them has been taken by AoG.

He will be at 1 point before very long, since he's he's down to 130-odd now and has hundreds of games still running.

Once these games deadbeat out, we will be left with a fairly capable player on 1 point.

sonicsteve wrote:He will be at 1 point before very long, since he's he's down to 130-odd now and has hundreds of games still running.

Once these games deadbeat out, we will be left with a fairly capable player on 1 point.

Yep. This absolutely seems like at the very least a point-reset situation (given the nature of why it happened).

(And I'm gonna be pretty annoyed if he starts playing his 1-vs-1 games with me now...and I don't even care that much about points or rank!)

no this should be a ban.

He's making no effort to play any of the games, currently sitting at 34 points. I think he's going for a record double - most active games and lowest score.

I just finished a game with him for which I scored (and he lost) 0 points.

I guess he will reach a point soon (if not already, I haven't checked the maths) where his score only falls when he gets beaten by a fellow cook.

Assuming he doesn't come back on a turn a game around, I should win my games against him 50-0 for a total gain of about 30 points.

eddie2 wrote:no this should be a ban.

You do however seem to have a personal axe to grind with theherkman, eddie.

Woodruff wrote:

eddie2 wrote:no this should be a ban.

You do however seem to have a personal axe to grind with theherkman, eddie.

no look at buddysystem case someone might of hacked his account and he was banned for pointdumping. my point is he makes all these games then uses excuses for not playing ie he cannot get into games but he is posting in the game chat.

JoshyBoy wrote:He's making no effort to play any of the games, currently sitting at 34 points. I think he's going for a record double - most active games and lowest score.

Think it's unlikely that he'll drop to 0 points (1 point is already the all-time low as far as I know). Think he would needs to get beaten by a player with <20 points for a score of 1 to drop to 0.

I think all he would need to do is reach .49 and it would show as zero. Just like my 100% turns taken --I have missed at least 100 turns lifetime--usually in speed games when I fell asleep--lol--but mine has always shown 100% as I am probably around 99.9. I believe it rounds up and down.

eddie2 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

eddie2 wrote:no this should be a ban.

You do however seem to have a personal axe to grind with theherkman, eddie.

no look at buddysystem case someone might of hacked his account and he was banned for pointdumping. my point is he makes all these games then uses excuses for not playing ie he cannot get into games but he is posting in the game chat.

eddie...how do you know it's him that is posting in the gamechat?

Woodruff wrote:

eddie2 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

eddie2 wrote:no this should be a ban.

You do however seem to have a personal axe to grind with theherkman, eddie.

no look at buddysystem case someone might of hacked his account and he was banned for pointdumping. my point is he makes all these games then uses excuses for not playing ie he cannot get into games but he is posting in the game chat.

eddie...how do you know it's him that is posting in the gamechat?

come on he made a c and a report same day as well saying he could not get into games.

Intentional point dumping or just a terribly stupid plan/goal.

And will any of those that have many games vs herkman be considered as trying to take advantage of points dumping?...

jefjef wrote:Intentional point dumping or just a terribly stupid plan/goal.

And will any of those that have many games vs herkman be considered as trying to take advantage of points dumping?...

theherkman just went freemium. Let's see what the mods say about it.

As for taking advantage, well, dunno that someone can blame his opponents (incl. myself) for joining these games. Personally, I'm not convinced that theherkman is to blame, despite HA's arguments (which are not unreasonable), it seems to me that it isn't clear that his explanation is unplausible.

jefjef wrote:Intentional point dumping or just a terribly stupid plan/goal.

And will any of those that have many games vs herkman be considered as trying to take advantage of points dumping?...

Only Jigger1986 and one or two more people gained anything. The rest will be getting 0p/game.

eddie2 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

eddie2 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

eddie2 wrote:no this should be a ban.

You do however seem to have a personal axe to grind with theherkman, eddie.

no look at buddysystem case someone might of hacked his account and he was banned for pointdumping. my point is he makes all these games then uses excuses for not playing ie he cannot get into games but he is posting in the game chat.

eddie...how do you know it's him that is posting in the gamechat?

come on he made a c and a report same day as well saying he could not get into games.

eddie, how do you know he made a C&A report?

That aside, that he MAY OR MAY NOT have posted a C&A report does not equate to his having posted in the game chat.

alstergren wrote:

jefjef wrote:Intentional point dumping or just a terribly stupid plan/goal.

And will any of those that have many games vs herkman be considered as trying to take advantage of points dumping?...

theherkman just went freemium.

Not quite - he was Guested.

alstergren wrote:Let's see what the mods say about it.

I believe we already have. Though whether that has to do with the record attempt or other things (annoying posts and such) is anyone's guess.

sounds like some one should be banned , excuses are like assholes everyones got 1

Arama86n wrote:

jefjef wrote:Intentional point dumping or just a terribly stupid plan/goal.

And will any of those that have many games vs herkman be considered as trying to take advantage of points dumping?...

Only Jigger1986 and one or two more people gained anything. The rest will be getting 0p/game.

The intent to gain from points dumping is what would matter. Not the net.

Arama86n wrote:

jefjef wrote:Intentional point dumping or just a terribly stupid plan/goal.

And will any of those that have many games vs herkman be considered as trying to take advantage of points dumping?...

Only Jigger1986 and one or two more people gained anything. The rest will be getting 0p/game.

From the 50 games i played against him i gained about 350 points. While i feel it would be unfair to punish me, or anyone else who played against theherkman in this challenge, it would not bother me at all if the points won from these games were removed from my account.
I had no idea he was going to do this so there is no way i was trying to take advantage of points dumping.

Anyone who is familiar with CC would be very aware that with a huge number of active games many turns would be missed, play would be sloppy and lots of games and points would be lost.

He would have had to have about 10 active sitters to reasonably cover them all.

jefjef wrote:Anyone who is familiar with CC would be very aware that with a huge number of active games many turns would be missed, play would be sloppy and lots of games and points would be lost.

He would have had to have about 10 active sitters to reasonably cover them all.

LOL. To the contrary I would say. First time anyone so royally screwed up this kind of challenge.