Conquer Club

Accused:

Point Dumping - rubntug, serialkiller74

The accused are suspected of:

Point Dumping


Game number(s): Too many to list.

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... bntug&so=D


Comments: Rubntug went from approximately 2200 points to 160 points in the matter of a week. Looking over his historical games he was clearly dumping points, many of which went to serialkiller74.

here is the story about those games,

First of all i didnt even know the guys ,never interact with except in 1 game about 1 year ago,

sometimes this week i was looking to get some games 1 vs 1 and i see this guy RUBNTUG had created whole bunch of games so i start to log into them like i always do when i found some game 1 vs 1 available ( look in my past game you l see what i mean)even if its from the same guys,
RUBNTUG just keep creating them like crazy so....i log in the most i can (130 some games it end up to be )
after i finished joining all those game i recive a message from RUBNTUG on my wall saying that he will not play any of them because is leaving the site because he is frustrated because of the randomness of the dice and that he is sick of it,so i played all those but it end up that he deadbeat every single one of them,

So...what do you expect me to do ...i couldt do nothing about it. i already had join all the games (couldt not cancel them there is no way to do this!)

thats the story and on my part i dont think i did anything wrong!

serial!

i was just looking at is finished game and i can see that he did that with other games also!

are you gonna report them too Knight2254 ???????

So you joined ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY 1v1's for fun??? Your normal game load at any given time usually sits above 130?

happens couple times that i join over 100 games ,

its pretty quiet at work these days , so when i found games up to grab 1 vs 1 on classic i am joining them!

Arama86n wrote:So you joined ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY 1v1's for fun??? Your normal game load at any given time usually sits above 130?

is there any rules saying that i am not allowed to join 130 games????

find that rules for me and you wont have to kick me out of the site i will leave be myself!

by the way your saying that you accused me to have done something wrong i dont understand!

like i said what did you expect me to do after i join all of those game

you would have done the samething as me!

If you really did join these games without knowing that rubntug was not going to play them then you have nothing to worry about. If you joined more of his games after you knew he was not playing then you are as guilty as him. This is just my opinion.

Arama86n wrote:So you joined ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY 1v1's for fun??? Your normal game load at any given time usually sits above 130?

not only 130 but 130 same opposition games

All I know is in trips Game 7788156 he played to win. Of course this up our ass CC manipulated random was very present...

2010-10-16 00:06:10 - jefjef [team]: SA. Get it. Keep it.
2010-10-17 12:15:22 - jefjef [team]: fucking joke dice
2010-10-17 21:30:50 - rubntug [team]: i got the same problem

i am lucky enough to have a job that i have shit load of time to spend at work playing CC ,i am joining 1 vs 1 games on classic map all the time that is from the same players
look at my games with : army of numundaga,mohc4,mjw10,TheSaxlad etc....and never got in trouble for doing this (exept for couple of guys that foed me for joining to many of there games at the same time ,
i never intend to get free points by joining games that peoples decide to dump there points and benefit for it,
before i join RUBNTUG games i had around 1400 some points if peoples dont find it legit for me to keep those points just have admin remove them,

i have been with conquer club since april 2008 and never had a issue with cheating and never did that deliberately ,

i dont think i should get banned or suspend just because RUBNTUG went crazy !!!

letds wait for the admin decision on this!

Knight2254 wrote:Accused:

Point Dumping - rubntug, serialkiller74

The accused are suspected of:

Point Dumping


Game number(s): Too many to list.

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... bntug&so=D


Comments: Rubntug went from approximately 2200 points to 160 points in the matter of a week. Looking over his historical games he was clearly dumping points, many of which went to serialkiller74.

i actually got around 600 to 650 points out of this!it suck but what can i do now ....you tell me!!

i know rubntug is sick of this website

ive played many team games with him

i doubt he purposely gave him those points

he would have been more likely to ask me or someone else hes been teaming with

you have no proof agaisnt either one of these players

gannable wrote:i know rubntug is sick of this website

ive played many team games with him

i doubt he purposely gave him those points

he would have been more likely to ask me or someone else hes been teaming with

you have no proof agaisnt either one of these players

Except a whole bunch of deadbeated speed games are very suspicious especially against the same opponent.

Too bad to. See what CC's version of "random" causes some people to do...

jefjef wrote:

gannable wrote:i know rubntug is sick of this website

ive played many team games with him

i doubt he purposely gave him those points

he would have been more likely to ask me or someone else hes been teaming with

you have no proof agaisnt either one of these players

Except a whole bunch of deadbeated speed games are very suspicious especially against the same opponent.

Too bad to. See what CC's version of "random" causes some people to do...

but on my part how could have know he intend to deadbeat every singles one of thoses games,
i didnt know him... like told before only played 1 game with the guys about 1 years ago and also never interact with him!

cant wait to see how this gonna turn out!

This is too funny-----i got a few things i would like to say. 1). If it was not for a bored brig with nothing else better to do that investigate other players bad fortune we would not be here now, but i get it---when your a brig and your main concern is the petty points because the brig is restricted to certain game type because of the burden of rank protection...........or because he might lose against a team of 3 which happens to have a cook in it------see where i am going

2). I have more dignity than to point dump, leaving the site or not. I would have been more inclined to leave the site within the 2000--2400 points i have always maintained in case after a extended break---i might have givin it another shot.

3). Bottom line, what i am about to say will generate different feelings from various players and i dont give a shit any more, especially after having this thread brought to my attention.

4). Serialkiller, you tell the truth to the readers---but only in part. Yes i did post on your wall asking you not too join any more of my games---i did this after you joined 21 of the 28 i just created---furthermore i told you if you keep joining them i would not participate in them, as far as i am concerned i should start a thread and accuse you of trolling

5). I had planed on creating 100 1-1's and fully intended to play every single one of them, my objective was to see if i could win at least 51 of them and study all games and rolls to verify my conclusions about this site and there 'random' dice. But during my attempt to do this serial killer kept joining and joining and joining and joining.-------Now i was getting pissed, so i said f*ck it, ya thats right, i caved---so i doubled down and created 200 to see how many this prick would join after nicely asking him to stop in the 20's.

6). After he joined 131 games i was disgusted and had wanted to fill management in. Unfortunately i have other business in my life that took me out of computer access for 70 hours. Most of my clan mates and leader know about the business i refer too. I have legal proceedings against a family member who embezzled my company, point being is i would have taken my lap top but decided not to take it and get further fueled with anger by another outside source such as i am doing now---at the end of the day this CC thing really is bullshit with a certain amount of drama that is enough to kill the fun.

7). I took the turns that were important to me, my team games and that's it. I KNEW if i didn't take any of the classic 1-1's i would catch the eye of some bored investigator and have them do most of the work for me, and guess what--it worked. Thats how predictable this site has become and i can assure you---this was not ''random'' . Am i guilty of point dumping??--No--i am merely guilty of giving this site one last chance and do my own experiment and not only get ass raped by ''random'' dice but also by a player that was told to beat it and they chose to keep joining to f*ck with me so i decided to give up entirely. This is not point dumping---this is nothing more than mental exhaustion.

. So in closing---serial---your a scum bag and hope all those points are taken away-----i got nothing more to add except my prediction is CC will have problems in the future with that glitch they have within the dice system which they pass off as random----cherrio mates

rubntug wrote:This is too funny-----i got a few things i would like to say. 1). If it was not for a bored brig with nothing else better to do that investigate other players bad fortune we would not be here now, but i get it---when your a brig and your main concern is the petty points because the brig is restricted to certain game type because of the burden of rank protection...........or because he might lose against a team of 3 which happens to have a cook in it------see where i am going

2). I have more dignity than to point dump, leaving the site or not. I would have been more inclined to leave the site within the 2000--2400 points i have always maintained in case after a extended break---i might have givin it another shot.

3). Bottom line, what i am about to say will generate different feelings from various players and i dont give a shit any more, especially after having this thread brought to my attention.

4). Serialkiller, you tell the truth to the readers---but only in part. Yes i did post on your wall asking you not too join any more of my games---i did this after you joined 21 of the 28 i just created---furthermore i told you if you keep joining them i would not participate in them, as far as i am concerned i should start a thread and accuse you of trolling

5). I had planed on creating 100 1-1's and fully intended to play every single one of them, my objective was to see if i could win at least 51 of them and study all games and rolls to verify my conclusions about this site and there 'random' dice. But during my attempt to do this serial killer kept joining and joining and joining and joining.-------Now i was getting pissed, so i said f*ck it, ya thats right, i caved---so i doubled down and created 200 to see how many this prick would join after nicely asking him to stop in the 20's.

6). After he joined 131 games i was disgusted and had wanted to fill management in. Unfortunately i have other business in my life that took me out of computer access for 70 hours. Most of my clan mates and leader know about the business i refer too. I have legal proceedings against a family member who embezzled my company, point being is i would have taken my lap top but decided not to take it and get further fueled with anger by another outside source such as i am doing now---at the end of the day this CC thing really is bullshit with a certain amount of drama that is enough to kill the fun.

7). I took the turns that were important to me, my team games and that's it. I KNEW if i didn't take any of the classic 1-1's i would catch the eye of some bored investigator and have them do most of the work for me, and guess what--it worked. Thats how predictable this site has become and i can assure you---this was not ''random'' . Am i guilty of point dumping??--No--i am merely guilty of giving this site one last chance and do my own experiment and not only get ass raped by ''random'' dice but also by a player that was told to beat it and they chose to keep joining to f*ck with me so i decided to give up entirely. This is not point dumping---this is nothing more than mental exhaustion.

. So in closing---serial---your a scum bag and hope all those points are taken away-----i got nothing more to add except my prediction is CC will have problems in the future with that glitch they have within the dice system which they pass off as random----cherrio mates

CMON ....WTF

i read your wall comments afàter i finished joining your game you bastard!

i didnt cheat or troll games or anything like that

anyway you just admit it trowing games your the one that did something wrong there is no way i could know what you intend to do

and i dont really care if they take thoses point away from me...really dont care

serialkiller74 wrote:

rubntug wrote:This is too funny-----i got a few things i would like to say. 1). If it was not for a bored brig with nothing else better to do that investigate other players bad fortune we would not be here now, but i get it---when your a brig and your main concern is the petty points because the brig is restricted to certain game type because of the burden of rank protection...........or because he might lose against a team of 3 which happens to have a cook in it------see where i am going

2). I have more dignity than to point dump, leaving the site or not. I would have been more inclined to leave the site within the 2000--2400 points i have always maintained in case after a extended break---i might have givin it another shot.

3). Bottom line, what i am about to say will generate different feelings from various players and i dont give a shit any more, especially after having this thread brought to my attention.

4). Serialkiller, you tell the truth to the readers---but only in part. Yes i did post on your wall asking you not too join any more of my games---i did this after you joined 21 of the 28 i just created---furthermore i told you if you keep joining them i would not participate in them, as far as i am concerned i should start a thread and accuse you of trolling

5). I had planed on creating 100 1-1's and fully intended to play every single one of them, my objective was to see if i could win at least 51 of them and study all games and rolls to verify my conclusions about this site and there 'random' dice. But during my attempt to do this serial killer kept joining and joining and joining and joining.-------Now i was getting pissed, so i said f*ck it, ya thats right, i caved---so i doubled down and created 200 to see how many this prick would join after nicely asking him to stop in the 20's.

6). After he joined 131 games i was disgusted and had wanted to fill management in. Unfortunately i have other business in my life that took me out of computer access for 70 hours. Most of my clan mates and leader know about the business i refer too. I have legal proceedings against a family member who embezzled my company, point being is i would have taken my lap top but decided not to take it and get further fueled with anger by another outside source such as i am doing now---at the end of the day this CC thing really is bullshit with a certain amount of drama that is enough to kill the fun.

7). I took the turns that were important to me, my team games and that's it. I KNEW if i didn't take any of the classic 1-1's i would catch the eye of some bored investigator and have them do most of the work for me, and guess what--it worked. Thats how predictable this site has become and i can assure you---this was not ''random'' . Am i guilty of point dumping??--No--i am merely guilty of giving this site one last chance and do my own experiment and not only get ass raped by ''random'' dice but also by a player that was told to beat it and they chose to keep joining to f*ck with me so i decided to give up entirely. This is not point dumping---this is nothing more than mental exhaustion.

. So in closing---serial---your a scum bag and hope all those points are taken away-----i got nothing more to add except my prediction is CC will have problems in the future with that glitch they have within the dice system which they pass off as random----cherrio mates

CMON ....WTF

i read your wall comments afàter i finished joining your game you bastard!

i didnt cheat or troll games or anything like that

anyway you just admit it trowing games your the one that did something wrong there is no way i could know what you intend to do

and i dont really care if they take thoses point away from me...really dont care

no matter what you should have played those games anyway you idiot!!

Game 7775701

i think the accusation was probably inspired because a Brigadier is fretting over how many precious he's going to lose in this game (if his team loses)

rub about 2200 pts when this game began, now he only has 130 or so.

for people who hate losing their pts this would be a good motivation to make an accusation.

gannable wrote:Game 7775701

i think the accusation was probably inspired because a Brigadier is fretting over how many precious he's going to lose in this game (if his team loses)

rub about 2200 pts when this game began, now he only has 130 or so.

for people who hate losing their pts this would be a good motivation to make an accusation.

Hardly Ganable, just noticed he crashed in points. I noticed he deadbeated/gave up point in pretty much every game except mine - strange. The game is lost, and I'm not at all concerned about points. I just thought point dumping was against the rules so I posted it here.

Let the cards fall where they may - I have nothing against the accused, just trying to keep integrity in the game, that's all.

Knight2254 wrote:

gannable wrote:Game 7775701

i think the accusation was probably inspired because a Brigadier is fretting over how many precious he's going to lose in this game (if his team loses)

rub about 2200 pts when this game began, now he only has 130 or so.

for people who hate losing their pts this would be a good motivation to make an accusation.

Hardly Ganable, just noticed he crashed in points. I noticed he deadbeated/gave up point in pretty much every game except mine - strange. The game is lost, and I'm not at all concerned about points. I just thought point dumping was against the rules so I posted it here.

Let the cards fall where they may - I have nothing against the accused, just trying to keep integrity in the game, that's all.

Gannable. Don't try to twist this against the accuser. Knight isn't in the wrong here.

I have not a thing against rubntug and have parded with him a couple times and see that this multiple game deadbeating is wrong.

Maybe his intent wasn't to dump points and probably wasn't. But as he stated he did intentionally DEADBEAT which is specifically against the rules...

As for serial killer. Who the hell joins that many games against the same player with no agenda? With no questionable wishful purpose?

jefjef wrote:

Knight2254 wrote:

gannable wrote:Game 7775701

i think the accusation was probably inspired because a Brigadier is fretting over how many precious he's going to lose in this game (if his team loses)

rub about 2200 pts when this game began, now he only has 130 or so.

for people who hate losing their pts this would be a good motivation to make an accusation.

Hardly Ganable, just noticed he crashed in points. I noticed he deadbeated/gave up point in pretty much every game except mine - strange. The game is lost, and I'm not at all concerned about points. I just thought point dumping was against the rules so I posted it here.

Let the cards fall where they may - I have nothing against the accused, just trying to keep integrity in the game, that's all.

Gannable. Don't try to twist this against the accuser. Knight isn't in the wrong here.

I have not a thing against rubntug and have parded with him a couple times and see that this multiple game deadbeating is wrong.

Maybe his intent wasn't to dump points and probably wasn't. But as he stated he did intentionally DEADBEAT which is specifically against the rules...

As for serial killer. Who the hell joins that many games against the same player with no agenda? With no questionable wishful purpose?

i Totally understand your point JefJef and i know its questionnable ,as i ask earlier where in the rules book it said that a player is not allowed to join 130 games against the same player ,
Falls is the worst period of the year for the business i am too i got around 6 to 7 hour to kill during the day!and i am the owner of the damn think so i can do whatever i want!
the reason why i join those games is that it keep me from going back every 15 minutes to see if there is 1 vs 1 games on classic map available !
i said it earlier i seen is message he left me on my wall but damint......damage was all ready done by the time i look at it!
its not the first time i am joining shit load of game from the same player and never got into any kind of trouble before ,

the funniest thing about this is that i am not really worrying about the points system and ranking

i kinda feel bad about all this let me tell ya! BUT WHAT CAN I DO ITS DONE !

cheers Serial!

gannable wrote:Game 7775701

i think the accusation was probably inspired because a Brigadier is fretting over how many precious he's going to lose in this game (if his team loses)

rub about 2200 pts when this game began, now he only has 130 or so.

for people who hate losing their pts this would be a good motivation to make an accusation.

i noticed his rank falling considerably when he was in a game against me so i had a little look at his games and noticed his point dump. it probably took 1 minute of my time and was obvious what was happening. point dumps should be legal as far as i'm concerned so i never said anything.

As you probably already know rubntug has already received an indefinite website vacation. Serialkiller74 's account has been noted.