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Tdans, game throwing[Cleared]e84

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:33 pm
by pimphawks70
Accused:


tdans



The accused are suspected of:

Throwing games



Game number(s):

Game 7812167


Comments: He tells ljex in the chat to move, so he can hand him the win. Pretty clear case of abuse IMO.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:34 pm
by tdans
hmmmmmm well, i do admit that i killed teal down there.. but i do believe i coulda stolen it.. the 5 second lag in the game and the terrible dice kinda played a part in the entire game... but whatever..

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:37 pm
by ljex
I would like to point out i had good reasons to move and did not expect the game to play out that way

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:39 pm
by pimphawks70
Right, you are not at fault for capitalizing on it in my eyes, but what he did is unacceptable. Blatant game throwing should not be tolerated.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:42 pm
by tdans
pimphawks70 wrote:Right, you are not at fault for capitalizing on it in my eyes, but what he did is unacceptable. Blatant game throwing should not be tolerated.

OH please... you really cant say much pimp... youve done this before.. big stack games? ring any bells??

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:45 pm
by jefjef
Well ljex seems to be in games that he benefits due to mistakes and lags...

tdans does not make many mistakes but he does. Huh. So do I and so does ljex and on and on and on.... But a blatant game throw? dan does not play to give points away. He plays to win and he has busted butt to get that star.

I need to go review my foe list now.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:46 pm
by tdans
jefjef wrote:Well ljex seems to be in games that he benefits due to mistakes and lags...

tdans does not make many mistakes but he does. Huh. So do I and so does ljex and on and on and on.... But a blatant game throw? dan does not play to give points away. He plays to win and he has busted butt to get that star.

I need to go review my foe list now.

OH NOZ>>> please dont foe me :cry:

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:57 pm
by dazerazer
People do it all the time... even though they do not always say they are going to do it, we have all been in games that other people have "thrown" our way to keep from losing as many points to a lower player. (not sayin I have ever done this. lol)

Teeee.... if you feel you need to chat then find me and I'll talk to ya. Don't go gettin yourself in trouble kiddo. You are too good of a player to have some bs like this hurt you in the end.... its just silly.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:59 pm
by ccatman
dazerazer wrote:People do it all the time... even though they do not always say they are going to do it, we have all been in games that other people have "thrown" our way to keep from losing as many points to a lower player. (not sayin I have ever done this. lol)

Teeee.... if you feel you need to chat then find me and I'll talk to ya. Don't go gettin yourself in trouble kiddo. You are too good of a player to have some bs like this hurt you in the end.... its just silly.

teeee....good?? we are talking about tdans in this thread the big noob....i dont know who your thinking of

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:00 pm
by jefjef
tdans wrote:
jefjef wrote:Well ljex seems to be in games that he benefits due to mistakes and lags...

tdans does not make many mistakes but he does. Huh. So do I and so does ljex and on and on and on.... But a blatant game throw? dan does not play to give points away. He plays to win and he has busted butt to get that star.

I need to go review my foe list now.

OH NOZ>>> please dont foe me :cry:


lolol. tdans did not stop playing. He ended turn and got spoils. After he did thats when ljex went to town... If he was really throwing the game he would not even bothered dropping or attacking and getting a spoil. It would have ended like the last controversial win ljex had. ;) The game was played.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:06 pm
by dazerazer
jefjef wrote:
tdans wrote:
jefjef wrote:Well ljex seems to be in games that he benefits due to mistakes and lags...

tdans does not make many mistakes but he does. Huh. So do I and so does ljex and on and on and on.... But a blatant game throw? dan does not play to give points away. He plays to win and he has busted butt to get that star.

I need to go review my foe list now.

OH NOZ>>> please dont foe me :cry:


lolol. tdans did not stop playing. He ended turn and got spoils. After he did thats when ljex went to town... If he was really throwing the game he would not even bothered dropping or attacking and getting a spoil. It would have ended like the last controversial win ljex had. ;) The game was played.



Well said jefjef! Thanks for reviewing that game. You're a good person to have made it clear for everybody one way or the other and I know you are also the kind of person to call it how it is. So with that... " the game was played".

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:08 pm
by tdans
hehehe i didnt throw it to lose less points.. i didnt reallly throw the game, persay.. see it as you will, but ljex did deserve the win more than anyone in that game.. my lagging and bad dice cost me the game.. everyone else were being idiots.. i got kinda tired of it.. plus i was being goofy.. and no one believed me... Way to go fellas..

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:43 pm
by army of nobunaga
seems like the same players over and over getting in here over speed shenanigans.... shocking

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:47 pm
by tdans
army of nobunaga wrote:seems like the same players over and over getting in here over speed shenanigans.... shocking

everyone is moving super fast.. and people get angry.. much much more than in a casual game..

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:05 am
by KoE_Sirius
It looks like Tdans asked Pimp to move.He didn't so Pimp actually thru the game by not doing as he was told.
I suggest you put in a complaint Tdans.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:21 am
by AAFitz
pimphawks70 wrote:Accused:


tdans



The accused are suspected of:

Throwing games



Game number(s):

Game 7812167


Comments: He tells ljex in the chat to move, so he can hand him the win. Pretty clear case of abuse IMO.


Its a clear case of throwing A game, but not a case in any way of game throwing and in no way evidence of abuse of any kind.

Game throwing refers to throwing many games and just losing, not in any way, deciding the winner of any particular game, since that happens essentially in every single game, for an infinite number of reasons, and is fundamental to the game itself.

Everyone on CC is guilty of throwing a game, but only those repeatedly throwing games randomly, or systematically, or to the same player over and over are guilty of breaking the rules or the inherent spirit of the game. In fact, the ability of every single player to throw any individual game, is as much a right as their vote in a democracy. It is sometime their only shred of hope of winning a game, or a game in the future. One could consider suicide as a very, useful and necessary tactic, when viewing a career of games on a site such as this.

The only possible time there are, is when they join a game specifically to suicide into one player. If during the course of the game, a player decides to suicide into another player, or act in any other way as to decide the winner, that is absolutely their right, and part of the psychological aspect of the game itself. One must play the game in a way with the full knowledge that at any time, any subtle move, an attack, a fort, a lack of an attack, a message in chat, etc, may very well inspire a player to act impulsively and extremely in a game, especially a speed game.

Now unless you can find Tdans repeatedly throwing games for someone and the same person systematically in many games, this is a very stupid and petty accusation from someone who should simply understand this all completely and fully.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:36 pm
by BoganGod
danni doesn't need to throw games, and I've had her up against the wall a few times, and she hasn't given up. You go danni, don't ever change. If danni was throwing the game, doubt would have taken a card....

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:44 pm
by Arama86n
That was well said AAFitz.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:21 pm
by MNDuke
Arama86n wrote:That was well said AAFitz.


I thought Fitz left CC...wtf?

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:56 pm
by army of nobunaga
tdans wrote:
army of nobunaga wrote:seems like the same players over and over getting in here over speed shenanigans.... shocking

everyone is moving super fast.. and people get angry.. much much more than in a casual game..



true but there is a little speed "niche" you guys play a lot together... and are friends and take up for each other.

im man enough to admit if I was in a room of 8 ppl and one was a clan member I would be more likely to "help" him a little if I couldnt win.

And if I did and got caught.. I would be in here...

And I would not insult my personal honor by denying it. You guys play game after game after game together... Then when Cattman.. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY CHEATED.. and im a veteren here in CC, AND I KNOW feudal as I have played Conquerors and and privates by the thousands there.. you buddys took up for him.. That is what decided it for me.

I call fucking shenanigans . And that is what this is.


the mods here dont have the balls to stand up to your speed niche plays and niche defending each other... but If you dont think I do, you are fucking wrong.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:23 pm
by tdans
army of nobunaga wrote:
tdans wrote:
army of nobunaga wrote:seems like the same players over and over getting in here over speed shenanigans.... shocking

everyone is moving super fast.. and people get angry.. much much more than in a casual game..



true but there is a little speed "niche" you guys play a lot together... and are friends and take up for each other.

im man enough to admit if I was in a room of 8 ppl and one was a clan member I would be more likely to "help" him a little if I couldnt win.

And if I did and got caught.. I would be in here...

And I would not insult my personal honor by denying it. You guys play game after game after game together... Then when Cattman.. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY CHEATED.. and im a veteren here in CC, AND I KNOW feudal as I have played Conquerors and and privates by the thousands there.. you buddys took up for him.. That is what decided it for me.

I call fucking shenanigans . And that is what this is.


the mods here dont have the balls to stand up to your speed niche plays and niche defending each other... but If you dont think I do, you are fucking wrong.

i admitted earlier on in this thread, if you would read, that i wanted ljex to win more than anyone else.. just fyi, you are sounding a bit paranoid.. sometimes i wish what you say is true, but i have had a game handed to me 2 or 3 times in my total cc career.. therefore, you accusing me of being in a speed niche is absurd and quite insulting..

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:51 pm
by MNDuke
You mean you guys don't have a special secret crest that declares you a member of a speed niche? I was under the impression you did.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:55 pm
by ccatman
army of nobunaga wrote:
tdans wrote:
army of nobunaga wrote:seems like the same players over and over getting in here over speed shenanigans.... shocking

everyone is moving super fast.. and people get angry.. much much more than in a casual game..



true but there is a little speed "niche" you guys play a lot together... and are friends and take up for each other.

im man enough to admit if I was in a room of 8 ppl and one was a clan member I would be more likely to "help" him a little if I couldnt win.

And if I did and got caught.. I would be in here...

And I would not insult my personal honor by denying it. You guys play game after game after game together... Then when Cattman.. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY CHEATED.. and im a veteren here in CC, AND I KNOW feudal as I have played Conquerors and and privates by the thousands there.. you buddys took up for him.. That is what decided it for me.

I call fucking shenanigans . And that is what this is.


the mods here dont have the balls to stand up to your speed niche plays and niche defending each other... but If you dont think I do, you are fucking wrong.

the funny thing is i've screwed over ljex MANY times in games on purpose just because i was bored and felt like being a pain in the ass by running around the map so for the last time STOP TELLING EVERYONE IM A CHEATER

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:05 pm
by army of nobunaga
ccatman wrote:the funny thing is i've screwed over ljex MANY times in games on purpose just because i was bored and felt like being a pain in the ass by running around the map so for the last time STOP TELLING EVERYONE IM A CHEATER


I would help you out... well except I was in the game where a general went through 16 neutral when he realized he could let another general kill him easily.

you are a cheater.. and why do I have utter contempt for you? Its because you cheated in something so flicking trivial. This is CC, not taxes, not your wife not your finances are your business... You and losers like david hofstra are just the dirt under my feet in life. Sorry it hurts your feelings.. I guess you shouldn't be well .. you.


cry on baby... ill get you a blanky or a binky later.

Re: Tdans, game throwing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:07 pm
by ccatman
army of nobunaga wrote:
ccatman wrote:the funny thing is i've screwed over ljex MANY times in games on purpose just because i was bored and felt like being a pain in the ass by running around the map so for the last time STOP TELLING EVERYONE IM A CHEATER


I would help you out... well except I was in the game where a general went through 16 neutral when he realized he could let another general kill him easily.

you are a cheater.. and why do I have utter contempt for you? Its because you cheated in something so flicking trivial. This is CC, not taxes, not your wife not your finances are your business... You and losers like david hofstra are just the dirt under my feet in life. Sorry it hurts your feelings.. I guess you shouldn't be well .. you.


cry on baby... ill get you a blanky or a binky later.

well we will let the mods decide your fate as you've been prooved wrong and unable to respond to logic and have been reported already and sorry to tell you im better at sequential then freestyle as prooved to you when i kicked yoru ass in the doubles game