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owenshooter [closed]
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:42 am
by hairy potter
Accused:
owenshooterThe accused are suspected of:
Other: offensive picture
Comments:
i don't think the word 'f*ck' on a picture of jesus is particularly appropriate. as a catholic i find it extremely offensive and disrespectful towards my religion, and i'm surprised that no one has complained before (unless they have).
religious figures are sacred, and should not be being defaced with sexual profanity in prominent places on this site. owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting. it isn't as if you have to specifically go onto his profile to see it.
i consider defamation of a religious icon to be a deliberate attempt to inflame users of christian demonination. consider how acceptable people would find use of a picture of allah with the word 'f*ck' written on top of it. or, leaving religion aside, a picture of something like the twin towers with 'f*ck' written over them. it is unecessarily provocative.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:49 am
by grifftron
hairy potter wrote:Accused:
owenshooterThe accused are suspected of:
Other: offensive picture
Comments:
i don't think the word 'f*ck' on a picture of jesus is particularly appropriate. as a catholic i find it extremely offensive and disrespectful towards my religion, and i'm surprised that no one has complained before (unless they have).
religious figures are sacred, and should not be being defaced with sexual profanity in prominent places on this site. owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting. it isn't as if you have to specifically go onto his profile to see it.
i consider defamation of a religious icon to be a deliberate attempt to inflame users of christian demonination. consider how acceptable people would find use of a picture of allah with the word 'f*ck' written on top of it. or, leaving religion aside, a picture of something like the twin towers with 'f*ck' written over them. it is unecessarily provocative.
I don't think you will win this war. But I also find it offensive, but he prob wont be made to change it.
-griff
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:33 am
by bigpash
If I remember correctly, the picture did not use to have f%&£ embossed across the front of it.
But I seem to remember owenshooter starting a C&A thread against an avatar with f%&£ on it which was cleared I think.
So therefore he may believe that this is acceptable.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:37 am
by hairy potter
if he started a thread against someone else with 'f*ck' written on their avatar then that would suggest that he is well aware of how offensive it is
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:41 am
by grifftron
hairy potter wrote:if he started a thread against someone else with 'f*ck' written on their avatar then that would suggest that he is well aware of how offensive it is
He only has it on his avatar as a statement.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:50 am
by hairy potter
grifftron wrote:hairy potter wrote:if he started a thread against someone else with 'f*ck' written on their avatar then that would suggest that he is well aware of how offensive it is
He only has it on his avatar as a statement.
that doesn't make it acceptable
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:54 am
by grifftron
hairy potter wrote:grifftron wrote:hairy potter wrote:if he started a thread against someone else with 'f*ck' written on their avatar then that would suggest that he is well aware of how offensive it is
He only has it on his avatar as a statement.
that doesn't make it acceptable
No it doesn't but he put it on their after his complaint of another CC player having F*ck on their avatar passed thru the complaint system, so like i said, gl with this one.
-griff
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:53 am
by tkr4lf
Yeah, why not just suck it up man? We all find something offensive every once in a while, but most of us don't try to get them to change what they are doing. Just ignore it if it bothers you that much. Just pretend it says something else. Just cuz you find something offensive doesn't mean you have to go on a crusade to eliminate it.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:53 am
by Woodruff
hairy potter wrote:Accused:
owenshooterThe accused are suspected of:
Other: offensive picture
Comments:
i don't think the word 'f*ck' on a picture of jesus is particularly appropriate. as a catholic i find it extremely offensive and disrespectful towards my religion, and i'm surprised that no one has complained before (unless they have).
religious figures are sacred, and should not be being defaced with sexual profanity in prominent places on this site. owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting. it isn't as if you have to specifically go onto his profile to see it.
i consider defamation of a religious icon to be a deliberate attempt to inflame users of christian demonination. consider how acceptable people would find use of a picture of allah with the word 'f*ck' written on top of it. or, leaving religion aside, a picture of something like the twin towers with 'f*ck' written over them. it is unecessarily provocative.
Ironically, owenshooter's use of it here is as a direct statement against such words being used on avatars.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:59 am
by Hardline
Yeah, doubtful anything will be done about this, though you raise a good point about images such as the degrading of the Twin Towers and anything involving Hitler. I'd also bet you if Muhammed's picture appeared somewhere, it'd be deemed "offensive" and have to be removed. But that's life, not just Conquer Club, unfortunately.
Foe the guy, let the minor inconvenience pass, and remind yourself that no amount of annoyance felt by you now will compare with the look of surprise on his face when he burns, burns, burns for eternity
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:26 am
by Bones2484
Hardline wrote: I'd also bet you if Muhammed's picture appeared somewhere, it'd be deemed "offensive" and have to be removed.
I'll bet you it wouldn't.Hardline wrote:Foe the guy, let the minor inconvenience pass, and remind yourself that no amount of annoyance felt by you now will compare with the look of surprise on his face when he burns, burns, burns for eternity
Also, you have no clue why Owen is doing this. It's not a statement on Jesus, so get off your high horse and stop judging people like your God supposedly teaches.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:51 am
by jefjef
FUCK was deemed to NOT be offensive and allowed in chat and on avatars and in the forums. But you already know that.
Now as for spurious complaints. This gonna become a habit of Harry Potter's? (Which I might add I find your avi disgustingly offensive)
Now I may go find a f*ck avi to fly myself.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:52 am
by Hardline
Bones2484 wrote:Also, you have no clue why Owen is doing this. It's not a statement on Jesus, so get off your high horse and stop judging people like your God supposedly teaches.
Yeah, we religious freaks are incapable of saying anything "tongue in cheek", I guess.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:52 am
by MNDuke
Would it be offensive for me to take owenshooter's avatar and write douche on it and then display it as my own?
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:21 pm
by jefjef
MNDuke wrote:Would it be offensive for me to take owenshooter's avatar and write douche on it and then display it as my own?
I do not believe self honesty would be considered offensive by CC. But doing that may be considered a bait/flame of sorts. Kinda like when you all took bogans and douched it...
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:34 pm
by army of nobunaga
i jsut think you people give attention seekers exactly what they want here.. I like owen.. but doing that on your avatar was something jsut for this type of response.
This was not some sort of social statement.. this is CC, what in the f*ck really matters here_ . ? If you want a social statement go out in front of a local catholic church on sunday with a sign with jesus and the word f*ck.
But here on CC... it seems we live to give attention seekers their attention...
I would suggest we (I mean you really) try not to be offended by something that someone is doing to offend you.
This thread feeds the attention seekers army fire. They will continue because of this thread.
anyway
2 cents. .. again
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:48 pm
by trapyoung
Is anyone else concerned that the username "owenshooter" suggests this individual has shot at least one (if not dozens more) owen(s)? I find this offensive because my name is Owen, as well as both of my brothers Owen and Owen and it makes us feel threatened.
Please take some fucking action.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:32 pm
by squishyg
ok...this is nuts.
the profanity on owen's avatar is a comment on CC's stance of allowing mods and other players to use curse words in their avy's. this is not about religion.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:33 pm
by owenshooter
the precedent...
Subject: Calidrmr / avatar abuse [closed]lvthe word f*ck is not offensive on an avatar... good luck...-the black jesus
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:43 pm
by pimphawks70
But your name isn't colored.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:48 pm
by MNDuke
squishyg wrote:ok...this is nuts.
the profanity on owen's avatar is a comment on CC's stance of allowing mods and other players to use curse words in their avy's. this is not about religion.
However when you use religious imagery and invoke the name of someone many take as holy, you are indirectly making it about religion, whether you meant to or not.
Not to mention, this whole business with owen calling himself "the black jesus," not only is it annoying, but its not cute anymore.
- The Sophisticated Owenshooter
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:01 pm
by hairy potter
the arguement i'm seeing in favour of owen seems to be generally consistent with an 'it's a protest, not an insult' point of view
pissing on soldier's graves in 'protest' rather than as an act of anti-social behaviour would still be frowned upon
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:10 pm
by Metsfanmax
All these posts miss the point. It's not about whether saying the word "f*ck" is allowed; it's about whether saying "f*ck Jesus" is allowed. The policy regarding whether that message is allowed obviously ought to be unaffected by the intent of the user who made the avatar.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:11 pm
by squishyg
hairy potter wrote:the arguement i'm seeing in favour of owen seems to be generally consistent with an 'it's a protest, not an insult' point of view
pissing on soldier's graves in 'protest' rather than as an act of anti-social behaviour would still be frowned upon
yes-speaking your mind does not come without consequences. provocative actions tend to, you know, provoke people. but people are missing the point here.
Re: owenshooter
Posted:
Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:24 pm
by trapyoung
Metsfanmax wrote:All these posts miss the point. It's not about whether saying the word "f*ck" is allowed; it's about whether saying "f*ck Jesus" is allowed. The policy regarding whether that message is allowed obviously ought to be unaffected by the intent of the user who made the avatar.
Issue of first impression eh? Would you like the C&A mods to crucify him?