Conquer Club

Accused: Victor Sullivan

The accused are suspected of: Violation of Bigotry Guidelines

Comments: very subtle bolding and italicising of letters within his post to spell out "KKK" while discussing the possible race of jesus. for those of you that are foreign and may not understand why this is a violation of the bigotry guidelines, here is a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan The KKK is a hate group, plain and simple. here is the thread and the post in which his violation occurred:

Subject: More of a ?

Victor Sullivan wrote:Jesus isn't black. Unless you're referring to a person named Jesus that's black. As far as Jesus Christ is concerned, he's Jewish. Not black.

i am a black member and i do not come to the forums to have people post hatred like "KKK" directed towards me or in general. i am not aware if this member has any other
violations of the bigotry guidelines, but i am sure the appropriate measures will be taken as he climbs the escalating punishment scale.-the black jesus

Firstly owenshooter, most "foreign" pps are aware and abhor the KKK...if we didn't we didn't know from our own life experiences we would have had a quick lesson from a C&A report within the past year in which players posted pictures of a black american hung from a tree (the response from CC was mild to say the least)...
Secondly, I agree that this is blatant bigotry, apparently from someone who subtly inserted the k-k-k in his response to your post (good pick up JJ - I didn't see it)...
Hopefully CC Admin will come down on this like a ton of bricks...
Lastly, and i try to say this diplomatically. if VS had posted this without the KKK ref he was correct in what he said,,,
jesus was a semite which is an arab race so was no more black than Mohammed - it's wrong for Christian fundamentalists to always portray him as White (or swarthy Italian if they're a bit more liberal) but Arab not black.
Sure there are very dark Arabian pps but then there are very dark Italians and very "light skinned" Japanese..
Your constant use of "the black jesus" may be drawing the weird pps out of their caves but is it worth it???
I ask this as (albeit a very light skinned) member of Australia's first pps...
Tho my user-name aligns me more to V. Sullivan, i know where you're coming from (esp in this instance) but do you need to keep the black jesus callsign? It only appears to attract the shiite?

the report is not about whether or not his statements are factual... the report is about is referencing the KKK towards a black member of the community.-0

okay Cuz... I support you Report...just trying to talk to you man to man ...contact direct if you want...will back out now into my own black world in the Southern hemisphere...

Look, I'm really sorry. Though I can't say I'm black, the majority of my friends are and we use racist jokes and KKK references more loosely. Idk what I was thinking when I posted that, but you have my sincerest apologies. I assure you that I am NOT racist and that I will not be posting any more questionable things that might hint at me discriminating against any other race. I would rather be banned than hurt a fellow CC member. Therefore, (and you can quote me on this if need be, though I hope it wouldn't have to come to that) I promise that if I do make another racial slur or anything of the sort after the time of this post, I will not do CC anymore and I should be promptly banned from the site.

As for the "black jesus", it honestly doesn't bother me at all that you're referring to Jesus as black. I definitely think you need to get your facts straight, but as long as you do, I really don't care.

Sincerely,
Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote:Look, I'm really sorry.

so sorry, you still haven't bothered to edit your racist post... be as sorry as you want and rationalize it any way you want, you are still subject to the bigotry guidelines and the punishment scale...-the black jesus

p.s.-take it to PM's if you want to chat...

I locked the post

lord voldemort wrote:I locked the post

then i retract my prior statement!!! good work LV, you aren't as useless as some of these C&A reports about you imply!!-the black jesus

p.s.-you know you are my mate!!

I know this is off the original topic, but since it was posted here publicly...

DJPatrick wrote:Your constant use of "the black jesus" may be drawing the weird pps out of their caves but is it worth it???

I always thought owenshooter was making a reference to the Filipino Black Nazarene, or if not then I figured it was a figure of speech like "I'm the Wall-Street Jesus", not trying to depict the historical Jesus as black.

Anyway, nice apology.

thunderhue

lord voldemort wrote:I locked the post

lol im a mod i can post in a locked thread see

eddie2 wrote:

lord voldemort wrote:I locked the post

lol im a mod i can post in a locked thread see

that means Victor Sullivan can't edit the post that owen is referring 2!

Masli wrote:

eddie2 wrote:

lord voldemort wrote:I locked the post

lol im a mod i can post in a locked thread see

that means Victor Sullivan can't edit the post that owen is referring 2!

i know masli was just having a laugh

owenshooter wrote:the report is not about whether or not his statements are factual... the report is about is referencing the KKK towards a black member of the community.-0

By this logic, we should suspend everyone who makes a Hitler reference in a debate with me, because I have Jewish ancestry.

Seriously, you don't need to be black to think the KKK did bad things.

Metsfanmax wrote:

owenshooter wrote:the report is not about whether or not his statements are factual... the report is about is referencing the KKK towards a black member of the community.-0

By this logic, we should suspend everyone who makes a Hitler reference in a debate with me, because I have Jewish ancestry.

Seriously, you don't need to be black to think the KKK did bad things.

it is not a suspension, there is an escalationg bigotry scale that CC follows. and yes, if you report someone they should be subjected to the scale for such references that are offensive to you. are hitler comments that common in chat with you?..-the black jesus

He only got a warning for that.Geeez.He could have at least been banned for a short period of time.Maybe 2 years or so.
Owen btw,Jesus prob' wasn't black since he came from nazerath he would have been niether black nor white.More like a lightly tanned skin and loose afro hair.
Anyway that aside..You are not God,but I don't mind you claiming to be.
I'm actually a Jedi Knight,but I am undercover. Shhhhh

KoE_Sirius wrote:He only got a warning for that.Geeez.He could have at least been banned for a short period of time.Maybe 2 years or so.
Owen btw,Jesus prob' wasn't black since he came from nazerath he would have been niether black nor white.More like a lightly tanned skin and loose afro hair.
Anyway that aside..You are not God,but I don't mind you claiming to be.
I'm actually a Jedi Knight,but I am undercover. Shhhhh

they had to follow the guidelines... i agree with you KoE, but apparently referencing the Klan towards a black member is not considered that big of an offense... they followed the guidelines instead of stepping outside of them and realizing this was deserving of something more harsh, but this is far better than what would of happened 2 years ago...-the black jesus