Conquer Club

Accused:

GeneralJestix
lildanbassman
JudahsLion

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 7497261
Game 7439552


I picked a couple of games. but he/they have played a decent amount of games


Comments:

I think an IP check needs to be done on these three. They seem to be able to play all at the same time for one.

The biggest thing that keyed me to these players was the fact that GeneralJestix is running his first tournament ever. While he is running the tourney, all three of these players are in tourneys for the first time.

There is a chart in the tourney created by lildanbassman. I believe this is where he messed up. He must have been signed in with the second player and created the chart.

You can see the thread to the tourney here: viewtopic.php?t=123720

All three players joined within a week of each other.

Just one premium and two freemiums.

I have been watching their access and all three seem to stop activity within 10 minutes of each other. Two of them hid their online status as of today though.

Too many coincidental facts if you ask me.

I see what you say HA, well spotted.

Nice catch, more revenue for the site me thinks. Slap on the wrist, and having to buy back premium.....

Good catch HA

Good catch HA

More proof--

Game 7518168

I accepted an invitation--went to the game--dropped--and since one of the three was on line--watch what happens:


2010-08-27 14:07:34 - Game has been initialized
2010-08-27 14:07:53 - lildanbassman began deploying initial troops
2010-08-27 14:07:57 - lildanbassman ended the turn
2010-08-27 14:08:10 - HighlanderAttack began deploying initial troops
2010-08-27 14:08:14 - HighlanderAttack ended the turn
2010-08-27 14:08:14 - GeneralJestix began deploying initial troops
2010-08-27 14:08:22 - GeneralJestix ended the turn
2010-08-27 14:08:40 - JudahsLion began deploying initial troops
2010-08-27 14:08:42 - JudahsLion ended the turn

Is anyone looking at this one--I have seen a bunch of C/A's with post dates after this one getting looked at. This guy is a ridiculous cheater and it really makes me mad.

please, by all means, tell us how we are cheating! youre just a sore loser, you little punk. its a freestyle game, and we know how to play it. Everything we did was perfectly legal...in fact i dont even know how it is possible to cheat. If you cant play with the big dogs, dont join the tourny. simple as that ..you little cry baby.

by the way, i live in portland Oregon, GeneralJestix lives in Kansas City Missouri, and Lildanbassman lives in Kirksville Missouri. By all means, check the I.P.'s. I assure you we are not a multi account.

Dang, I have never seen such a crybaby. You have got to be the sorest loser on CC. Im glad we kicked your butt.

the hunters will check this, just be patience!

I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

lildanbassman wrote:I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

I could not have stated this any better than you did.

GeneralJestix wrote:

lildanbassman wrote:I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

I could not have stated this any better than you did.

I did not do this out of spite because I lost as it was done well before out match even started. When all three accounts happened to be there as soon as the game initialized that added to my suspicions. I do believe I took the time to make a very good case. If what you are saying is true I will be the first to apologize. To my understanding CC should be able to check that the turns were being taken from different IP's and that would clear you. Evidently you took the time to read my evidence along with other players that read this thread, and it does look like the three accounts are a multi.

HA, we were waiting for you guys to join the game so we could go asap. We honestly thought you were doing this out of spite and I will accept your apology and I do understand from what you gathered that you could think we were a multi. Being the first tourney I have ran and the first one we all have played in is because we have been playing this map and this style for awhile now and have yet to lose a game. lildanbassman thought that I should start a tourney so I did. Anyways, hope there are no hard feelings either way and I do look forward to playing against you in the future. Your team has been the toughest game we have played yet. We got some really good rolls the 2nd to last turn after i had the worst rolling ever.

Well I don't personally feel right finishing the game under this cloud of suspicion, so I'll hold off going until it's done. That said, this is a tournament game and we do need to proceed pretty quickly for the sake of others. Is there any chance the IP check could be expediated so we can move on? thanks!

How long does it take to clear this up?

BoganGod wrote:Nice catch, more revenue for the site me thinks. Slap on the wrist, and having to buy back premium.....

thats quite hypocritical of you considering the fact that your team is using the same strategy as ours. you took several turns at the same time as other players on your team. Maybe we should have you investigated as well.

lildanbassman wrote:I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

If not multis the definitely secret diplomacy.

murphy16 wrote:

lildanbassman wrote:I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

If not multis the definitely secret diplomacy.

are you serious?

murphy16 wrote:

lildanbassman wrote:I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

If not multis the definitely secret diplomacy.

In team games?

lord voldemort wrote:clear

Thanks.

drunkmonkey wrote:

murphy16 wrote:

lildanbassman wrote:I understand what HA is saying, and I understand his grievance. We are all very good friends and have been playing Risk since our high school days. I joined w/ JudahsLion (Nick) on an invitation from Zach (GeneralJestix) along w/ another friend who quit a while back. So we coordinate our attacks together b/c we all know each other & our schedules.

Please check out games Game 5976607, Game 5898683, Game 5867117. Heck check out my first 50 games. They are all 1 vs 1 against my friends. The game chat alone should prove that either someone has a disturbing case of multiple personality disorder & cognitive dissonance, or we are in fact 3 separate accounts. It was a way for us to all play together despite being in different cities & states. So now we do team games together, and yes we coordinate our attacks.

If not multis the definitely secret diplomacy.

In team games?

Didn't know they were team games, my apologies.

Dang...some of you people are on a witch hunt around here. Ya know, some people actually have friends IN THE REAL WORLD, whereas some of you internet dweebs only know another human being by their sign in name. Really sad... Had Highlander done anything more than just a superficial observation of our recent games, it would have been obvious to him that we are not a multi. If murphy even looked a little closer, he would not have embarrassed himself by accusing us of secret diplomacy in TEAM GAMES! Seriously, guys. If youre going to accuse people of cheating, you need to actually know what youre talking about.
Currently we are undefeated on New World using the settings we use. We use those settings for a reason, and its all perfectly within the rules of the game.
Murphy, Bogangod, and Highlander, if you guys dont like to lose that badly, then dont play games. I know it hurts to lose to one of us petty 'freemiums'.... I look forward to playing you in the future.

JudahsLion wrote:Had Highlander done anything more than just a superficial observation of our recent games, it would have been obvious to him that we are not a multi.

If you had actually taken the time to read my case you would have seen it as a good case and not a superficial one. That being said I am sure you are pissed at someone calling you a cheater so I understand your sarcasm and defensiveness.

Now since the powers to be have cleared you I will apologize and do apologize for being wrong. Good luck to all of you in the future.