Conquer Club

Hello caymanmew,

Due to technical difficulties game 7469421, which you joined, had become corrupted beyond repair and had to be deleted. Any exchanges of points have been reversed.

We apologize for any inconvenience this causes.

Regards,
The Conquer Club

Posting rapidly in a short time.
Posting the same thing over and over in the same or other threads.

if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you're going to be removed from it.

lord voldemort wrote:well expect some sort of vacation for spurious reports

lord voldemort wrote:well expect some sort of vacation for spurious reports

lord voldemort wrote:c&a isnt a place to make jokes and silly reports.

caymanmew wrote:

lord voldemort wrote:c&a isnt a place to make jokes and silly reports.

not a joke or a silly report it should be dealt with like a report

jrh_cardinal wrote:perma-ban lack and andy?

In Search of Saint Schloss
by stahrgazer
I first heard of the situation a week or so ago in Live Chat, when someone excitedly invited people to a game on the St. Patrick’s Day map. Later, I heard the whispers about “Das Schloss.” More recently, people are being (at least) warned for opening games on those maps. Why? What’s all the hullaballoo? I set out in search of Saint Schloss to explain, and eventually found him.

stahrgazer: Saint Schloss, what is the issue, please?
Saint Schloss: Das ist verboten! Nicht one, but two issues, das is verboten!

He went on in his mix of German-accented English which, to ease my audience, I have translated back to the normal English pronunciation.
A recent update to the site has caused the Das Schloss and St. Patrick’s Day maps to be ‘startable,’ but neither of those maps are currently intended for play. St. Patrick’s was always intended as a special holiday map and never went through the formal release process, so even though no specific errors have been found, CC does not want that map on its roster of playables. Das Schloss is a different issue. During the course of its release process, a bug was found; starting positions in the lower left, parachutes, cannot be killed, so some of the games cannot end. For that reason, CC took the map off the open market so that the program can be updated to fix the bug that cannot be killed while games are active.
Easy enough, then, tell people “Don’t touch,” right? Erm.. when is the last time you told a child not to touch? Some young men (okay, not just young men, but young women as well) openly admit, “Tell me not to hit a button, and that’s just the button I’ll punch!” So what is a poor Admin to do?
In a recent thread, the “Warnings given,” was explained as, “People should not intentionally abuse a bug.” The problem with that explanation is that there used to be a bug in Freestyle play where someone could invoke a double-turn. Complaints about that were answered with, “Since the site program allows it, it’s legal.” Why, then, is this bug any different?
I don’t know about the St. Paddy map, but Das Schloss, at least, is different. With the double Freestyle turn, it gave an advantage to those who used it, but at least the game could finish. With Das Schloos, while people are busy punching the button they’re being told not to touch, the site cannot fix the programming to enable all games to end with a winner, taking up site space, freemie gameslots, and holding points hostage. Ahem. Hostages? Hostage-holding is against the site rules.
”Unwritten Rules"
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage...
(I always wondered how these rules that I am reading – thus are written – are called “Unwritten Rules,” but written or not, there they are in black and white.)
The moral of the story is, I’m not going to tell anyone not to punch a button. I am, however, going to request that those who are taking hostages on Das Schloss, please release your hostages and open the gates so that CC Admin can put that fix into place.
As for St. Patrick’s Day? I imagine that if we don’t agree to stop hitting the button on our own, Admin does have a way to permanently delete the map.
Thus, the second moral of this story is, please refrain, or, put another way, “Don’t tease the bears!”

jakewilliams wrote:World Cup (along with St Patricks Day) never went through the Foundry process. As such, they aren't guaranteed to be properly balanced and have all gameplay issues addressed. These are limited time maps and are not for general consumption. The same thing happened with Das Schloss - it was still in the beta stages and had been removed from gameplay due to the gameplay having problems. Halloween Hallows went through the foundry process, that is why it is always available.
There is no interest from the originators of the two special maps to take them through the foundry process, so they are left as special holiday maps. I have pestered MrBenn to take WC through the foundry as it's a great map and I'd love to see a variant of it always available.
Any games started while the maps were officially opened were allowed to be finished. AFAIK, any games opened through the bug were deleted.

jakewilliams wrote:As I stated when the issue happened before, I think that the warnings sent out by the admin/etc are not worded well and are too heavy handed. A kinder, gentler notice that the maps are available due to a bug would be better.

stahrgazer wrote:I really do not understand why it's okay for map creators to create game maps with no intention of going through a foundry process. I don't understand why admin has repeatedly authorized this, unless the answer is "it doesn't really matter if some maps do not go through the full process."

And if it doesn't matter; if it's okay for some maps to be played without going through the full foundry process, then release them to beta and let them stay beta forever.

Night Strike wrote:You don't understand it because you don't want to understand it. The administration wishes to provide special maps for specific CC events, so it's their right to sanction a secret map to facilitate that special event. Because the map doesn't go through the full foundry process, it's not fair to all the other map developers that those maps got special treatment while most have to go through months of feedback and updating. The admins have a made a decision that is completely logical and within their rights (even though they don't have to provide any logical reasons for their decisions), and just because you and others disagree with it does not make your position right and the way things must be.

eddie2 wrote:on another note if they have refunded the points in these games can they not also do it when players get busted for sd or multis