Conquer Club

Accused:
b00060

The accused are suspected of: Farming

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Game 7166735
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Comments: If this is not farming i dont know what is. Out of 184 hits in game finder on these settings and the first one created started 2010-06-18 17:03:33.

this is not farming unless there is proof of him pming or getting them in live chat to join games.


the reason i say this is because if he sets up games and they join then its there fault not his.

eddie2 wrote:this is not farming unless there is proof of him pming or getting them in live chat to join games.


the reason i say this is because if he sets up games and they join then its there fault not his.

lol, i dont know... i think there have been a few past rulings that went the other way on this..

eddie2 wrote:this is not farming unless there is proof of him pming or getting them in live chat to join games.


the reason i say this is because if he sets up games and they join then its there fault not his.

Well clearly ?'s join a high percentage of these and he has created multiple batches of these games. If im not mistaken president in the kraphtone case where lv said

lord voldemort wrote:OK,

After a discussion with other mods I have decided to issue Krapt with a warning.
The high % of new recruits is a worry, but mostly the fact that Krapht admits that he knows these games attract new recruits and he contiuues to create the games. We consider this a grose abuse of the game as it creates annoying and unwelcoming gaming atmospheres for the New Recruits involved.
Lack is in the process of adding Feudal to the mpas that new recruits can't play. When that happens I dont know, but he has been again made aware that it is a map used for farming. So he is 'on it'.

lv

should be a factor in this and would make me think this is farming...

Not a comment on this particular case, but that map (Pelo War) is probably set up as more of a farming map than even City Mogul in my experience.

danryan wrote:Not a comment on this particular case, but that map (Pelo War) is probably set up as more of a farming map than even City Mogul in my experience.

pelo wars is a popular map, i play on it alot and end up with very few ? marks in my games actually... but his particular settings are obviously intended to turn off decent players...

ljex wrote:

lord voldemort wrote:
After a discussion with other mods I have decided to issue Krapt with a warning.
The high % of new recruits is a worry, but mostly the fact that Krapht admits that he knows these games attract new recruits and he contiuues to create the games. We consider this a grose abuse of the game as it creates annoying and unwelcoming gaming atmospheres for the New Recruits involved.
Lack is in the process of adding Feudal to the mpas that new recruits can't play. When that happens I dont know, but he has been again made aware that it is a map used for farming. So he is 'on it'.

lv

should be a factor in this and would make me think this is farming...

ijex,

The Krapht case obviously has very little in relation to this complaint. So why use it?

It's obvious boooo60 is chasing a piece of crap NUCLEAR medal. It is 1v1 freestyle crap that is not what is normally related to farming settings on a map that CC should block ? from playing anyway.

This public complaint makes one wonder why it is posted. I'm sure you and other mods have already had behind the scenes discussions in re of this and already have decided his guilt. Looks like a public flogging is about to take place.

Now as far as your games you have over 138 you have set up on Luxembourg - doodle and classic with known farming settings that attracts very low ranks. Those with glass houses should not throw stones...

hwhrhett wrote:

eddie2 wrote:this is not farming unless there is proof of him pming or getting them in live chat to join games.


the reason i say this is because if he sets up games and they join then its there fault not his.

lol, i dont know... i think there have been a few past rulings that went the other way on this..

oh, and b00060 is a piece of shit, and im sure that isnt gonna help him here..

And hwhr... This original unedited FLAME was captured... Warning should be issued to you....

You all have a nice day.

if you consider this farming then i'm screwed

hwhrhett wrote:

danryan wrote:Not a comment on this particular case, but that map (Pelo War) is probably set up as more of a farming map than even City Mogul in my experience.

pelo wars is a popular map, i play on it alot and end up with very few ? marks in my games actually... but his particular settings are obviously intended to turn off decent players...

k, I don't know if you remember, but there is a nuclear medal that just came out...

He was not choosing his particular settings to "turn off decent players", he is medal hunting.

This is his first nuclear game, basically every one after that was nuclear (if not every one): Game 7166723, and it started a few hours after the nuclear medal was announced:

Nuclear Spoils Medal
by lackattack » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:51 pm

2010-06-18 17:03:33 - Game has been initialized


jefjef beat me to it

jefjef wrote:ijex,

My name is Ljex i have told you this about 5 times now...

jefjef wrote:The Krapht case obviously has very little in relation to this complaint. So why use it?

This case is related it provides president that players can be held accountable for creating games that attract ?'s...

jefjef wrote:It's obvious boooo60 is chasing a piece of crap NUCLEAR medal. It is 1v1 freestyle crap that is not what is normally related to farming settings on a map that CC should block ? from playing anyway.

Even if his goal is to get a medal this is farming for medals not points, either way its farming.

jefjef wrote:This public complaint makes one wonder why it is posted. I'm sure you and other mods have already had behind the scenes discussions in re of this and already have decided his guilt. Looks like a public flogging is about to take place.

This has not been discussed anywhere else that i can see and so i began a discussion here. Also we are encouraged to post everything but multi accusations in C&A so that there is a thread to reference if action is taken.

jefjef wrote:Now as far as your games you have over 138 you have set up on Luxembourg - doodle and classic with known farming settings that attracts very low ranks. Those with glass houses should not throw stones...

You can make a thread if you want to accuse me but those games were way back when i was a noob and only played small maps with simple settings. I bet most of those games are not even recent and i was ranked no higher than a Sargent

See: Tezu, KraphtOne, et al.

I know this won't help b00060's case, but aren't beta maps hidden from NRs

Jace22 wrote:I know this won't help b00060's case, but aren't beta maps hidden from NRs

Clearly not considering these have NRs in them.

Bones2484 wrote:

Jace22 wrote:I know this won't help b00060's case, but aren't beta maps hidden from NRs

Clearly not considering these have NRs in them.

I know these have NRs in them, what I mean is that NRs couldn't have just found these in join a game. So I'm thinking someone invited them

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:The Krapht case obviously has very little in relation to this complaint. So why use it?

This case is related it provides president that players can be held accountable for creating games that attract ?'s...

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:It's obvious boooo60 is chasing a piece of crap NUCLEAR medal. It is 1v1 freestyle crap that is not what is normally related to farming settings on a map that CC should block ? from playing anyway.

Even if his goal is to get a medal this is farming for medals not points, either way its farming.

He has played over 16,000 games. You throw a minute % as evidence. LMAO.

You are also claiming he is doing it specifically to attract ? which is not the case. He is chasing a medal. Nothing more. He is setting up nuclear games. The cases you site were intentionally set up to attract noobs. Poly is not a map that is known to draw noobs.

Look at his wall. His wall statement is the way he is. He will play with ANYONE. I have seen him in waiting dubs games ready to play with any partner against any team.

I will be interested to see booo60 response to this complaint.

jefjef wrote:

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:The Krapht case obviously has very little in relation to this complaint. So why use it?

This case is related it provides president that players can be held accountable for creating games that attract ?'s...

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:It's obvious boooo60 is chasing a piece of crap NUCLEAR medal. It is 1v1 freestyle crap that is not what is normally related to farming settings on a map that CC should block ? from playing anyway.

Even if his goal is to get a medal this is farming for medals not points, either way its farming.

He has played over 16,000 games. You throw a minute % as evidence. LMAO.

You are also claiming he is doing it specifically to attract ? which is not the case. He is chasing a medal. Nothing more. He is setting up nuclear games. The cases you site were intentionally set up to attract noobs. Poly is not a map that is known to draw noobs.

Look at his wall. His wall statement is the way he is. He will play with ANYONE. I have seen him in waiting dubs games ready to play with any partner against any team.

I will be interested to see booo60 response to this complaint.

These games have all happened in less than 10 days how many will he play in 30. Also if you are allowed to do this what is stopping anyone from doing this as an easy way to get their medals, taking away from the actual difficulty of getting the medal? What is to stop someone from playing these to go for score because they are hosting the games and its not their fault ?'s are joining.

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:The Krapht case obviously has very little in relation to this complaint. So why use it?

This case is related it provides president that players can be held accountable for creating games that attract ?'s...

ljex wrote:

jefjef wrote:It's obvious boooo60 is chasing a piece of crap NUCLEAR medal. It is 1v1 freestyle crap that is not what is normally related to farming settings on a map that CC should block ? from playing anyway.

Even if his goal is to get a medal this is farming for medals not points, either way its farming.

He has played over 16,000 games. You throw a minute % as evidence. LMAO.

You are also claiming he is doing it specifically to attract ? which is not the case. He is chasing a medal. Nothing more. He is setting up nuclear games. The cases you site were intentionally set up to attract noobs. Poly is not a map that is known to draw noobs.

Look at his wall. His wall statement is the way he is. He will play with ANYONE. I have seen him in waiting dubs games ready to play with any partner against any team.

I will be interested to see booo60 response to this complaint.

These games have all happened in less than 10 days how many will he play in 30. Also if you are allowed to do this what is stopping anyone from doing this as an easy way to get their medals, taking away from the actual difficulty of getting the medal? What is to stop someone from playing these to go for score because they are hosting the games and its not their fault ?'s are joining.

So he set up a bunch of games in the last 10 days after the announcement of the new nuclear medal NOT knowing who would join.

Now if you can find a bunch of games prior to that then you might actually have a case.

they should add freestyle to the list of things new recruits aren't allowed to join to stop this >.>

*EDIT*
btw DAMMMMNNNN... why can't I attract nwbs to my games like that >.> hahahaha.

jak111 wrote:they should add freestyle to the list of things new recruits aren't allowed to join to stop this >.>

*EDIT*
btw DAMMMMNNNN... why can't I attract nwbs to my games like that >.> hahahaha.

pelo wars and nuclear certainly should both be on that list, i dont think freestyle should be on it tho, alot of new players really like freestyle before they learn better... i know i did...

I just want to add that, considering the 50-game waiting limit, he could only have set up a fraction of those at a time. Even if he filled all 50 of his waiting games with just that 1 specific game type, by the time those started to fill, he should have realized that those games attract new recruits, and therefore should not have CONTINUED to create them.

hwhrhett wrote:

jak111 wrote:they should add freestyle to the list of things new recruits aren't allowed to join to stop this >.>

*EDIT*
btw DAMMMMNNNN... why can't I attract nwbs to my games like that >.> hahahaha.

pelo wars and nuclear certainly should both be on that list, i dont think freestyle should be on it tho, alot of new players really like freestyle before they learn better... i know i did...

I thought pelo war was already part of that list as it is still beta and aren't all beta maps hidden from NRs

slowreactor wrote:I just want to add that, considering the 50-game waiting limit, he could only have set up a fraction of those at a time. Even if he filled all 50 of his waiting games with just that 1 specific game type, by the time those started to fill, he should have realized that those games attract new recruits, and therefore should not have CONTINUED to create them.

Looks like out of 185 games 62 were joined by ranked players. That is roughly 34%. Looks like he played em all.

He has also started some on other maps. He is NOT exclusively playing only poly wars. He has a lot of mixed maps. 214 1v1 nuclear total games.

Total poly games are 546.

I have sent out zero invites and am simply going for a nuclear gold. I have done absolutely nothing wrong other than setting up a game and map that I enjoy and letting whoever wishes join. I prefer not to have any ? marks join and have been an advocate as being able to allow that setting, who would want to wager their 2000+ points against a ? that is most likely a multi. So for anyone that thinks I am farming, screw off, I will play ANYONE, ANYTIME, on ANY SETTING!. How the hell is setting up your favorite map and not inviting anyone farming????????????????????? If i could specifically set to not allow anyone under 1600+, I would. I am seeing a ton of bullshit freemiums that are obvious multis and losing 60+ points to them. If I can't play my favorite maps and settings, what the f*ck is this site for???? I have posted hundreds, yes, hundreds of maps and settings over the last week and no one joins anything but pelo, so if I am in the wrong, then that is absolute 100% bullshit. I have invited NO ONE and if I could set these games up with officer only settings I would. How about you look into the ? that join and according to their wall it is their first game and play the map perfectly with clickys? I don't want these guys in my games and if I could allow the setting to ignore anyone that doesn't have 100 plus games under their belt I would.

I can categorically state that b00' IS NOT and has NEVER been a farmer, at least not in such a way as ijex accuses.
He is way above such a strat (as far as I've seen and known him anyways), he doesn't need to play that way and you'll find with those settings anything can happen
b00' is actually one guy that is mightily above such a reproach. (tho' I have taken the piss out of him in gamechat in the past suggesting the very same thing ).
Quite a laughable accusation, ijex, a self proclaimed mogul freestyle speed farmer

MrPanzerGeneral wrote:I can categorically state that b00' IS NOT and has NEVER been a farmer, at least not in such a way as ijex accuses.
He is way above such a strat (as far as I've seen and known him anyways), he doesn't need to play that way and you'll find with those settings anything can happen
b00' is actually one guy that is mightily above such a reproach. (tho' I have taken the piss out of him in gamechat in the past suggesting the very same thing ).
Quite a laughable accusation, ijex, a self proclaimed mogul freestyle speed farmer

Well lets start with the bassics that farming is playing ?'s and most ?'s arnt premium thus they cant play speed. Also i no longer play those settings as it got old fast but you can accuse me of farming if you want.

Also thanks for still calling me ijex it makes me warm in fuzzy